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issue resolved — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokatoni (talkcontribs) 08:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons?

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The use of references, sources and random files uploaded to Commons causes several issues. Not least:

  • Origin/authenticity. While subject to Commons' own rules and norms, anyone can upload anything to Commons. Including altered or generated images. Original sourcing should be used. So that editors and readers can verify the authenticity/source/reliability of references. Files uploaded to Commons should be the exception. Not the norm.
  • Integrity/continuity. In addition to (potentially) being replaced/changed by other Commons contributors, several of the files uploaded to Commons are (already) proposed for deletion. As they do not appear to be Commons-eligible. This also causes WP:VER issues.
  • Verification/SYNTH. In order, for example, to support the statement that "O'Dea never sought fame and initially wrote under the pseudonym Morgan Brookes" we are relying solely upon snapshots of a script cover and small ad. This is classic WP:SYNTH. If all we have to rely upon for this statement is a script cover and a classified ad (and the reader/editor has to come to her own conclusion about what this might mean), then we probably shouldn't be making the statement at all. As per WP:SYNTH, statements should be supported by statements explicitly made in the sources. Not inferred/implied/guessed.

Ideally these issues would be addressed. Guliolopez (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The statement about the pseudonym 'Morgan Brookes' does not rely solely on the script cover and classified ad, but is supported by a citation from the Westmeath Independent newspaper (1946). Perhaps the proceeding two citations are superfluous? Kokatoni (talk) 14:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Kokatoni (talk) 13:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reference to the poster has now been replaced Kokatoni (talk) 14:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokatoni (talkcontribs) 18:30, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’d like to clarify some information regarding the template that suggests there are "many" citations uploaded to Commons that are of indeterminate source.
After reviewing the citations in the article:
Out of 26 citations, only one relies solely on a Commons link, which I can review further if necessary. All other sources are reliable newspaper citations, with the Commons links provided simply to offer readers visual access to the original sources. These links can be removed from the citations if needed.  Additionally, the advertising poster citation has been removed and replaced with a verifiable newspaper source.
I believe the template might no longer be necessary, given that the citations predominantly refer to reliable sources (newspapers, etc.), with the Commons links being supplementary, not the primary references.  Could someone please review this and consider removing the template if appropriate? Kokatoni (talk) 10:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]