Talk:2021 Colorado mid-air collision

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Suggested move

Suggest moving title to "2021 Denver mid-air collision" or something similar, as that's the convention for other accidents and incidents of this type. Etingram (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this.Waterfire (talk) 00:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The current title conforms to the community consensus title guidelines. That said, there are several articles about notable mid-air or runway collisions that do not use the flight-number title format, and I would be open to a page move. However, I suggest that we wait a little while longer to see if a WP:COMMONNAME consensus about the title emerges, and to make sure that the title can't be conflated with any other future mid-air collision occuring in the Denver area in 2021. Also, I would argue that 2021 Centennial Airport mid-air collision is a more logical title, as neither the collision site nor the airport falls within Denver city limits. Carguychris (talk) 14:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved to proposed title. BilCat (talk) 05:57, 1 June 2021 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Key Lime Air Flight 970 → 2021 Centennial Airport mid-air collision – The current title conforms to the community consensus title guidelines, but I propose that the page be moved per WP:COMMONNAME, since relatively few non-aviation media reports even reference Flight 970. Although "Colorado" and "Denver" have been used in non-aviation sources, I propose "Centennial Airport" per WP:PRECISION, as neither the airport nor the collision site falls within Denver city limits, and it is possible that another notable mid-air may occur in Colorado in 2021. Carguychris (talk) 16:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per norm and WP:CONSISTENT; for aviation incidents involving two aircraft, article titles tend to include characteristics common to both aircraft, such as the location where the incident occurred (e.g 2020 Kenai Peninsula mid-air collision). JaventheAldericky (talk) 21:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support As I already stated.Waterfire (talk) 21:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – but would support 2021 Denver mid-air collision. OK, strictly speaking the crash site was outside Denver's city limits (not even by much), but a title needs to be recognizable rather than pedantic. --Deeday-UK (talk) 09:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If "Centennial Airport" really cannot be used, then I support moving to this alternative title as well. Another suggestion could be to create "2021 Denver mid-air collision" as a redirect to the proposed title. JaventheAldericky (talk) 16:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Alternate names

To reflect the recent page move discussion, I have created redirects for both 2021 Colorado mid-air collision and 2021 Denver mid-air collision. In the long term, I'd prefer for this article to be moved to "2021 Colorado mid-air collision", but I'll wait until 1 January 2022 to make sure another one doesn't occur! Carguychris (talk) 23:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As the closer, I've no issue with that. I chose the current title because that had the most support, and follows the guidelines. That'll also give enough. time to know if that or another title, such as with Denver, is more common. BilCat (talk) 23:47, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 May 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 08:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Centennial Airport mid-air collision → 2021 Colorado mid-air collision – No other mid-air collision meeting general notability guidelines seems to have occurred in Colorado during 2021; multiple searches of mainstream news sites all seem to lead to this specific crash. As per the previous discussion, this crash is particularly confounding geographically; the media generally refers to the site as "Denver" or "Centennial Airport", but the collision itself did not take place on airport grounds, the Cirrus crashed off-airport, and neither the airport, the collision site, nor the final location of the Cirrus wreck are actually within Denver corporate limits. Due to a lack of comparable crashes, "Colorado" is adequate to meet WP:COMMONNAME while neatly resolving the geographical debate. Carguychris (talk) 14:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 09:48, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, and naming convention of other mid-air collisions. Sheehanpg93 (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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