Talk:Bloomberg Industry Group
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[edit]This is a for-profit company but there is historical interest in its unique history. The write-up attempts to be neutral and factual. Have I succeeded? (Perhaps I should delete some of the product names, although I am attempting to show the range of coverage.)
I would also like to edit the "Employee Owned corporation" page to expand the definition to include organizations that are neither ESOPs or 'worker cooperatives.' Kcody 20:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Requested move 15 December 2015
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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/c 16:51, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Bureau of National Affairs → Bloomberg BNA – This entity has been primarily known as Bloomberg BNA for several years now. It's time to retitle the page. bd2412 T 15:55, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support name in current use. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support as per nom. Tiggerjay (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support; I'd go so far as to categorize this as an "uncontroversial technical request". TJRC (talk) 23:16, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support; WP:COMMONNAME, 'nuff said. InsertCleverPhraseHere InsertTalkHere 02:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support, this name has been in use since 2011. sst✈(discuss) 06:20, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Oppose the use of abbreviations difficult to understand instead of clear informative full names. 21:52, 17 December 2015 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peco Wikau (talk • contribs)
- Striked comment from a confirmed sock Tiggerjay (talk) 01:05, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support but prefer Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs, Bloomberg being ambiguous, and WP:TLAs being, as rule, a bad idea. While admittedly few who care about "Bloomberg BNA" will not recognize that name, the best place to define abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms is on first use, which if that means the title, it means the title. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:15, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- "Bloomberg BNA" is the actual name of the entity. "Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs" doesn't exist at all as a name in use. "Bloomberg BNA" gets about 600,000 Google hits, "Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs" gets less than 0.2% of that. There is no need here to invent a name that, as a practical matter, does not exist in the real world. A corresponding example is Bloomberg L.P., which has not been proposed to be moved to Bloomberg Limited Partnership. bd2412 T 00:16, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- OK, if "Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs" is not, and has never been, not even in any technical or formal capacity, its name, then we shouldn't create it. Ghits and Ngram counts and page views count for little, as they are terribly biased by jargon, jargon which may be appropriate in the prose but not in titles. I would ot propose to expand "L.P." because the expansion is technical and of little real meaning. "Bureau of National Affairs" at least has meaning and historical usage. However, On the first point, I'll give the nomination a straight support. The article could include a little section on the history of the name. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I can take care of adding that information to the history in the near future. bd2412 T 22:32, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- OK, if "Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs" is not, and has never been, not even in any technical or formal capacity, its name, then we shouldn't create it. Ghits and Ngram counts and page views count for little, as they are terribly biased by jargon, jargon which may be appropriate in the prose but not in titles. I would ot propose to expand "L.P." because the expansion is technical and of little real meaning. "Bureau of National Affairs" at least has meaning and historical usage. However, On the first point, I'll give the nomination a straight support. The article could include a little section on the history of the name. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- "Bloomberg BNA" is the actual name of the entity. "Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs" doesn't exist at all as a name in use. "Bloomberg BNA" gets about 600,000 Google hits, "Bloomberg Bureau of National Affairs" gets less than 0.2% of that. There is no need here to invent a name that, as a practical matter, does not exist in the real world. A corresponding example is Bloomberg L.P., which has not been proposed to be moved to Bloomberg Limited Partnership. bd2412 T 00:16, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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