Talk:Doin' It Right

A fact from Doin' It Right appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 September 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Daft Punk's "Doin' It Right", featuring Panda Bear of the Animal Collective, was considered by both Pitchfork Media and Paperblog to be the best track out of their fourth album Random Access Memories?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2013/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Doin' It Right.

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Changed F# to Gb. Removed part of the sentence that stated the vocals were "in Bb" because that makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.164.62.91 (talk) 23:11, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

I've noticed that the genre in the infobox has been switching back and forth between "electro" and "electronic". Do we have third-party sources describing the song as electro? There are some reviews calling the album as a whole electronic and pop, so I'm wondering if this assertion of electro is WP:OR or not. jhsounds (talk) 18:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See here: "It's got a bit of an Afrika Bambaataa-proto-electro vibe." Or here: "Panda Bear... aces his vocal turn on “Doin’ It Right”, a terrifically uplifting bit of electro-pop." Most reviews I've read about the song comment on the minimalist nature of the song, the drum machine, the vocoder vocals... these are all defining characteristics of electro songs, whether they come out and say the name of the genre or not. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 19:09, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. I added these direct genre references to the article, since deriving the genre solely from characteristics could be seen as O.R. synthesis. jhsounds (talk) 21:12, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Background seems to be more about Panda Bear than the song's background. 2001:558:6045:78:B013:FBCB:85AC:6A2C (talk) 04:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I trimmed out the bit about Panda Bear's brother as it wasn't directly related to background of "Doin' It Right". The story of how Lennox found out about Daft Punk, and his attempts to get the duo to remix his work, I think is relevant as those events led to their collaboration. jhsounds (talk) 15:51, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moves: 6 versus 4 for move after 41 days. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

– 2013 Daft Punk song not more notable than all other songs/albums combined, just more WP:RECENT. The third move is tentatively proposed, difficult to know since this scuba diving safety regime is relatively recent (2009 article creation) and doesn't appear to have made it to Google Books yet. Relisted. BDD (talk) 21:20, 5 December 2014 (UTC) In ictu oculi (talk) 06:32, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, as long as you retarget the various links. My personal taste would be for the disambiguation page to be titled "Doing It Right", even though most of the entries are called "Doin' ...", as it seems more natural and predictable for a "Doin' ..." to be listed under "Doing ..." than vice versa. W. P. Uzer (talk) 07:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This would also be my preference if the scuba diving article moves. If other users support per W P Uzer will amend template so second is Doing It Right (disambiguation) → Doing It Right. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:40, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:SONGDAB. The minor difference between "Doin'" and "Doing" is unlikely to be followed consistently by sources and readers, and is therefore insufficient disambiguation. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. We always try to use the minimum disambiguation necessary. In this case there are exactly two articles (with slightly different titles) and all that is needed to completely disambiguate in any circumstance is a hat-note on each one pointing the other. WP:2DABS gives us this advice:
If the titles of two articles differ only in capitalization or the separation or non-separation of components (as per WP:DIFFCAPS or WP:PLURALPT), the articles each should contain a hatnote to link to each other.

That's all that's necessary. --RexxS (talk) 02:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Per the dab page, it looks to me like there's about 17 topics involved here. —BarrelProof (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies - From the discussion above, I gained the impression that there was just the 2013 song involved in addition to the scuba term. As a scuba diver, I'd naturally prefer visitors to find the DIR article directly on a search. In addition, only one article out of those 16 film/music topics actually exists and the present dab page is being used to direct readers to the artists or albums, not to articles with the same topic name. However, I understand the reasoning of the music/film editors. Is there any good reason, though, that the scuba term "Doing It Right" should be moved? From what I can see, almost all of the film/music uses employ the "Doin' " spelling, and the page Doin' It Right would seem to be the natural choice for a dab page for them, making it unnecessary to interfere with the scuba article (especially as it would lose its Google search ranking). The scuba article should continue to use a hatnote, of course, to catch searches for the other topics. --RexxS (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, as per RexxS's reasoning above. There are no other articles with the same exact title plus a parenthetical, so this page does not need to be moved. The scuba diving thing can stay where it is as well, since the title is distinct. As long as they both have hatnotes, we're already good. --V2Blast (talk) 08:46, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:V2Blast Well what about the song - The question would be why a song charting at UK No. 193 has an article at all? In ictu oculi (talk) 23:01, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support moving of song per WP:DIFFCAPS which reads, "This form of disambiguation may not be sufficient if one article is far more significant on an encyclopedic level or far more likely to be searched for than the other." And per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC which asks for long-term significance. There I am supported by WP:SONGDAB. I am also in favour of the other two nominated moves, but could be persuaded with a reasoned argument. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:05, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is the only thing called exactly "Doin' It Right" that has an article, or more than a mention on any other article.--Cúchullain ^t/c 18:32, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No need to disambiguate when this is the only article using the title. -- Calidum 21:36, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The same title is used for several unrelated things, no one is dominant. Extremely subtle differences in the title as here are not nearly sufficient to prevent misrecognition by readers looking for one of the several other topics. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Move Doing It Right (disambiguation) to Doing It Right and support other proposals per others above. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:26, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Disambig page is best for such a widely used title; except as Chase says, the disambig page should be Doing It Right, with Doin' It Right redirecting to it. Dicklyon (talk) 04:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Doin' It Right — JFG ^talk 00:48, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doin' It Right (Daft Punk song) → Doin' It Right (song) – Per the RfC on song titles and various subsequent RMs such as this, this, this, and this, the artist's name is unnecessary when there are no other articles on songs of the same title. Cúchullain ^t/c 02:33, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just Doin' It Right? As far as I can tell no other article has this name. Nohomersryan (talk) 11:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd support that too, but it was moved away from that title last year. You are correct, there are no other articles with that spelling.--Cúchullain ^t/c 12:03, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Doin' It Right since this title is unambiguous. Support nominator proposal as second choice. SSTflyer 12:17, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Support move to Doin' It Right per SSTflyer's argument. 2601:8C:4001:DCF4:78A9:3073:55CE:6F30 (talk) 19:39, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Doin' It Right per above. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 00:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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