Talk:Hong Kong tropical cyclone warning signals

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A diagram showing the symbols of the signals (ie. "T" for 1, the inverted T for 3, etc.) would be nice. I doubt we can just take it off the HKO site, so if no one else goes ahead, I'll make it.

I also coded this sentence out:

Currently, there are a group of 10 signals measuring the gale affecting Hong Kong.

I only counted 8 (the ones already listed on the article). If no one else can tell me what the other 2 are, I'll just remove the sentence from the article. - Hinto 21:20, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

Should this article be retitled and rewritten in cover both the Hong Kong and Macao systems? — Insta ntnood 15:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Signal Meaning and Precautions

I thought a word about precautions might be useful. I have added a bit more information from the Weather Wonderland of Hong Kong site. The link will be provided here as putting it on the main page might be overkill.

Tropical Cyclone Warnings

-Smrgeog

I've just changed the warning lights for T8, which were incorrect. The link Smrgeog mentions above shows the correct lights. My first wiki edit so apologies if I haven't notated correctly. Rymann (talk) 01:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)rymann[reply]

Criticism section

Do you have any citations you can add regarding the Hong Kong Observatory's failure to issue the No. 8 signal. The accusation being made here is serious and requires a citation in order for it to remain in an encyclopaedia. I know that the Ngong Ping anemometer was blown away by the wind.

I could say that HKO were justified in not issuing a signal 8 as winds in Victoria Harbour did not reach gale force although more exposed areas in the western half of Hong Kong winds did reach gale to storm force.

smr 08:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)smrgeog

Added some references to criticism. --67.70.122.203 05:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Signal Numbers

Actually, Hinto, before 1973, there were 10 signals, if you read the article through, but with the word currently in the sentence, it would be wrong. - B4rr4g3 19:27, 12 August 2007 (HKT)

Inline references, anyone?

The only thing keeping this article from reaching a higher categorization is the lack of inline references. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Closure of government offices..

I just wanted to clarify something, the sentence that reads: In accordance with legal codes and common practices in Hong Kong, once any signals higher than No. 3 are issued, all government agencies will shut down their operations., does it refer to signals HIGHER than T3, not including T3, (i.e. greater than 3) so that could equally read any signals No. 8 and higher or similar (i.e greater than or equal to 8). Is that correct? ref immigration department. Perhaps I was the only person confused by this on first read, or it could be clarified. --SnakeSeries (talk) 14:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation?

The eight graphical warning signals shown in the table in section "Meaning of signals" are claimed to be "ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain" by their author T1NHO.

However, the image source stated is Hong Kong Observatory of HKSAR. Visiting the linked page on the HKO website lists all these symbols, with a link "Copyright and Disclaimer" at the bottom of the page. This copyright page, in turn, states:

"The content available on this website, including but not limited to all text, graphics, drawings, diagrams, photographs and compilation of data or other materials are protected by copyright. The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is the owner of all copyright works contained in this website. Any reproduction, adaptation, distribution, dissemination or making available of such copyright works to the public is strictly prohibited unless prior written authorization is obtained from the Hong Kong Observatory."

Checking the user page of author T1NHO brings me to a soft redirect page linking to zh:user:sdee where the statement "此用户被用户查核确认滥用傀儡，已遭到永久封禁" tells us that this user has been permanently blocked.

Looks to me like this user has posted copyright-protected material in violation of its copyright. I propose to take down these images. Anyone want to contribute any replacement images?

Robert (talk) 05:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good point but the signal representations are that of common numerals, symbols, and Chinese characters. The use of such symbols sort of represents a gray area when it comes to copyright. My personal interpretation of copyright would be unique pieces of work or intellectual property instead of symbols and numerals. But I think there should be more discussion before taking further action.

smrgeog (talk) 22:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed original research

I removed the areas that is possible original research, I kept the essence of the argument by talking about the problems with Victoria Harbour reference point. All of these are supported by citations. Please feel free to edit this area as you see fit.

--smrgeog (talk) 11:12, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of hoisted signals?

Would a picture of hoisted signals in Macau be a good addition to this article? Ohworkbtch (talk) 19:49, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be inclined to delete it as irrelevant to/divergent from the subject. sirlanz 05:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added tags + cleanup

I have added several tags on this article for various issues which I believe need resolving. Most pressingly is the copypaste tag, as large sections of the History section seem to have been directly copy-pasted from this source: https://www.hko.gov.hk/en/publica/tn/files/tn109.pdf. Additionally, large parts of the article are overly detailed and specific, rather than a general overview.

I have done an initial pass revising and editing the first half-dozen paragraphs or so, and hope to continue working on it over the coming days and weeks. If anyone has any thoughts on the tags/work that needs to be done, I am open for opinions/debate. Knifebirb (talk) 09:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]