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removed entries

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Cleaning up per MoS:DP, I've removed these entries:

  • Hybrid rudiments, in drumming, are rudiments which have been made from a combination of the original rudiments.
  • "Hybrid - living in paradox", the focal point of the Festival Ars Electronica in 2005. It adressed the rapid ongoing abrogation of boundaries and fusions in art, technology and society.
  • A computer network that is a combination of star network, bus network, ring network or other network topologies.
  • Systems containing both continuous and discrete sample times. (For example: in control theory.)

because they don't link to articles called "hybrid" that could be confused with other articles. Of course if articles are eventually written about these subjects, then these entries should be remformatted and moved back. Tedernst | talk 18:04, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hybrid (biology) vs Hybrid (disambiguation)

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Background: On November 24th, User:Ytrottier (with assistance from User:East718) moved Hybrid to Hybrid (biology) and moved Hybrid (disambiguation) to Hybrid, per brief discussion on talk page. User:MPF is concerned that this has left 2000 biology pages linking to the disambiguation instead of the proper Hybrid (biology) page and would like to undo these moves.

I think [[Hybrid] should be a disambiguation page because the word is most commonly used to refer to hybrid electric vehicles rather than biological hybrids. Therefore, someone typing "Hybrid" in the Wikipedia search bar, or blindly linking to "Hybrid" without checking should be led to this disambiguation page. Although this change means that many existing articles are left linking to a disambiguation page until someone gets around to fixing them, I don't think this is a serious problem. This is a common situation on Wikipedia, and users are still able to find the article they're looking for via the disambiguation. I think it would be a bad idea to start reverting improvements to Wikipedia just because that's the not way the page used to be. We have to accept that Wikipedia is a fluid work in progress.

I routinely come across links to disambiguation pages in the course of browsing and fix them as I go. I expect various editors will gradually fix all those biology articles linking to Hybrid over time. There may be faster automated ways of fixing these. Special:DoubleRedirects says that bots regularly fix double redirects. Perhaps this page could be temporarily turned into a redirect to Hybrid (biology), until the bots have updated all the pages that link here, and then it could be turned back to a disambiguation page. Perhaps more experienced editors could suggest other bots or semi-automated editing methods that would be more appropriate.--Yannick (talk) 13:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've found some relevant guidelines, which mentions some semi-automated disambiguation tools. I'll check to see if I can use them myself to fix this. (But bear with me. I'm an intermittant part-time volunteer with weak programming skills.) I've also found two bots that go around fixing this stuff, User:CanisRufus and User:DcoetzeeBot, so this may be fixed sooner rather than later.--Yannick (talk) 12:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I used WP:AutoWikiBrowser to fix almost all of the links. There are still a dozen or so difficult ones that I've left behind for subject matter experts to deal with.--Yannick (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup proposal

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Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Partial_title_matches states

Do not add links that merely contain part of the page title (where there is no significant risk of confusion). Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term. Disambiguation pages are not search indices.

In view of this, I intend to remove items that would probably not be referred to just by the word "hybrid." Some examples of links that would remain would be "Hybrid electric vehicle", "Telephone hybrid", "Hybrid coupler", and "Hybrid (biology)". Examples of links I would remove are "Hybrid CD", "The Hybrid Front", and "Orbital hybridisation".

I would appreciate any comments about articles on the page that are often referred to as just hybrid(s), but that people unfamiliar with the topic of the article wouldn't know that's how the "in crowd" talks about the topic. --Gerry Ashton (talk) 20:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hybrid (biology) vs Hybrid (disambiguation) revisited

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If we look at the etymology of the word hybrid, it comes from the Latin hybrida, hibrida meaning crossbred animal. This means that in the most literal sense of the word, hybrid refers to its biological meaning. This is why, I am formally nominating that Hybrid (biology) be moved back to Hybrid, and the current Hybrid paged be moved to Hybrid (disambiguation). If there are no objections, please instruct on the process so I may move forward. Osh33m (talk) 20:39, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should focus on the current meaning of the word, not the derivation. Currently, I don't think "hybrid" has a substantially stronger chance of meaning biological hybrid in preference to the other meanings, so think the article names should stay as they are. Jc3s5h (talk) 21:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But the immediate dictionary definition of the word still remains the biological one. The newer definitions are the derivations. I think if wikipedias's Hybrid page was the biology one, it automatically reflects how the word's meaning has been used to apply to mean other things as well. Osh33m (talk) 02:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What matters is current usage and helping readers find what they are looking for. page view stats indicate the biological sense is not the clear primary topic. olderwiser 10:51, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that, what I am saying is if a reader is looking for a derivative hybrid, but end up first on biological hybrid, perhaps it will be an eye opener because they might not have known the origin of the term. And then of course at the top of the page, there will be a direction to the disambiguation page to get them where they want. Osh33m (talk) 15:54, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hybrid (Marvel Comics) (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hybrid (Marvel Comics) (disambiguation). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Certes (talk) 10:06, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]