Talk:2020 BYU vs. Coastal Carolina football game

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Did you know... that the name of the "Mormons vs. Mullets" game was a play on the 1988 "Catholics vs. Convicts" game?

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On 7 February 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Mormons vs. Mullets to 2020 BYU vs. Coastal Carolina football game. The result of the discussion was moved.

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the name of the "Mormons vs. Mullets" game was a play on the 1988 "Catholics vs. Convicts" game? Source: Who wants a 'Mormons vs. Mullets' T-shirt? It's a thing heading into the BYU-CCU game (behind paywall)
- ALT1: ... that BYU agreed to play Coastal Carolina in what would become the Mormons vs. Mullets game after Liberty dropped out of the game less than a week prior due to COVID-19? Source: BYU vs. Coastal Carolina: Live stream, watch online, TV channel, coverage, kickoff time, odds, spread, pick
- ALT2: ... that BYU came up one yard short of winning the Mormons vs. Mullets game against Coastal Carolina in 2020? Source: Seven-Step Drop: Coastal Carolina's Cinderella Story Reinforces How College Football is Far More Than Just the Playoff
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mayoralty of John Lindsay

5x expanded by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 23:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC).[reply]

- hooks all check out, verified 5x expansion (close but if I calculated right they got it). Policy compliant, AGF on source-text integrity on copyvio due to past experience with the nominator on a couple GANs and the fact that I can't really get onto ESPN on my work computer. Can come back for more thorough checks later if this is an issue. Hog Farm _Talk 19:08, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 18:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately tagged. The youtube source is an offical channel. Earwig finds no issues.

What makes awfulannouncing.com a reliable source?
- Replaced these with the ESPN press release that was already a citation for another bit in that section. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"The game was the host of the ESPN pregame show College GameDay": unless this is some specific usage that applies to that TV show, "host" seems like it has to be the wrong word -- the host of a TV show is a person.
- Replaced this with something closer to the wording used in the article's body. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"A rising number of COVID-19 cases within the program led Liberty to drop out less than a week prior": suggest "less than a week prior to game day".
- Good fix, done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The caption of the picture of Wilson says he was "continuously blocked"; I think this should probably be "repeatedly" or "continually" -- "continuously" refers to something that never stops at all. But the explanation given at the end of the "First half" section is different from the explanation in the caption -- which is correct?
- Fixed the caption by removing "continuously" altogether. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The upper case "G" in "4th & Goal" looks a little odd; shouldn't that be "4th & goal"?
- Fixed that and "1st & Goal" in the fourth quarter. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The scoring summary is unsourced; I would suggest adding the relevant citation(s) to the title of the table, "Scoring summary".
- That would be my ideal location as well, but that is part of the template {{AmFootballScoreSummaryStart}}, which does not provide such an option. The citation I would use for the scoring summary is the same as has been used in the game summary section (ref 33) at this point, "BYU vs. Coastal Carolina – Play-By-Play", so if there's another location you can think of I'm happy to do that. All of the scoring plays are mentioned in the game summary, so if there's not a suitable place for another instance of the citation, it wouldn't be the end of the world. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The statistics sesctions are unsourced.
- Added cites there. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've copyedited as I read through; please revert if I made a mess of anything. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:07, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecks:

FN 36 cites "A highlight clip from the game was the most-viewed clip from any Week 14 game on any ESPN digital platform, receiving 1.4 million views": verified.
FN 25 cites "and won an away contest at No. 21 Louisiana on a Wednesday evening by three points the next week, for their first win over a ranked program in school history." Verified.
FN 4 cites "The game was not officially confirmed until the following day, with ESPN playing a key role in the process, and even then the two schools had yet to enter into any kind of written agreement. Holmoe told Dinich that BYU and Coastal would work out a future return game, presumably hosted by BYU at LaVell Edwards Stadium in Provo, Utah, after the 2020 season." Verified.

I also verified a couple of the play-by-plays in the game summary section. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:11, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mike Christie: Thanks very much for the review! I believe I've addressed everything. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two things left. For citing the scoring summary, how about just adding the word "Sources" below the table and putting the citations on that word? And the caption from which you removed the word "continuously" seems to give a completely different explanation of the stoppage from what is given in the text. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mike Christie I have added the source and I tried to amend the caption; I'm trying to get the meaning of what is mentioned in the text without using the exact same wording if I can avoid it. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:39, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 February 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 19:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mormons vs. Mullets → 2020 BYU vs. Coastal Carolina football game – "M vs M" was not the official name for this game and should not be the name for the WP article. "M vs M" appears to be more of a name given by a group of students trying to sell some t-shirts they created. Parenthetically, even the example drawn upon to the 1988 Notre Dame vs. Miami football game (aka "Catholics vs Convicts" game) uses the official game name for the WP article name. 45.19.55.132 (talk) 02:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move. No evidence has been provided that this isn't the common name. O.N.R. ^(talk) 05:20, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence A Google search for "2020 BYU vs. Coastal Carolina football game" yields 580,000 results (link), compared to only 39,200 results for "Mormons vs. Mullets" (link). 45.19.55.132 (talk) 13:38, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is clearly a joke title. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support as page creator. Not entirely a joke title. The name was in use at the time the game was played, and yes it was absolutely a call back to Catholics vs Convicts. Mackensen (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.