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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Morningside Heights in Manhattan became known as the Academic Acropolis of New York City following the development of colleges such as Columbia University (pictured)?

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Fiona Apple, who is listed as a notable African-American resident of Morningside Gardens apartment complex, is Caucasian, as far as I know. Her Wikipedia page doesn't mention that she is African- American.65.88.88.45 (talk) 19:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this as well. I think user Epicgenius inadvertently made this claim in this edit as Fiona Apple was already listed just after a sentence about African-Americans although it was not explicitly stated that she was one such member of that group, only that she was 'also a resident' of Morningside. Eobanb (talk) 16:33, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite certain that "The Heights" refers to Washington Heights. I've never heard anyone refer to Morningside Heights as "The Heights". - Louis waweru 21:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's a bar called "The Heights" on Broadway just south of Columbia, which tends to show usage of that nickname for the neighborhood. However, I have only heard it rarely used. Wl219 00:36, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's just a play on the fact that "Heights" is in the neighborhood's name, and the fact that it's a rooftop bar. Louis waweru 03:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I lived in the neighborhood for 25 years...people call this area Morningside. The Heights is Washington Heights. Louis waweru 01:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upper Manhattan?

Why has this term been added as the signifier of M. Heights vs. its equivalent in Toronto? The term is somewhat esoteric and confusing as it is interchangeable with others, including "Northern Manhattan". For general readers (outside New York), "Manhattan" should suffice, if not, even more directly, "New York City". Cjs2111 21:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Morningside Heights is not Harlem

In the 19th century, Harlem was broadly defined and included Morningside Heights. The neighborhoods became distinct in the early 20th century and authoritative sources since the 1920s or 1930s describe them as separate communities. See, for example, The Encyclopedia of New York edited by Kenneth Jackson, states clearly that Harlem is bordered to the west by Morningside Avenue -- in other words, it includes none of Morningside Heights. Also, Michael Henry Adams's Harlem Lost and Found, which excludes Morningside Heights, Pinkney & Woock's Power and Politics in Harlem similarly excludes Morningside Heights. I can list additional texts if you like. Uucp (talk) 15:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone seems very keen to argue that Morningside Heights is in Harlem, and not in the UWS. One of the sources cited for the claim that it is considered part of "Greater Harlem" describes its northern border as Harlem, mentions that it is considered part of the UWS, and never once mentions "Greater Harlem". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.55.108 (talk) 03:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Boundary

The Eastern boundary of the neighborhood is Morningside Park, not Manhattan Avenue. It is generally accepted that the neighborhood gets its definition from its topography and that the presence of the Morningside Cliff on the east is a 'clear geological boundary' (see Dolkart's book) on the East. --RegentsPark (talk) 21:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I agree with this. Is there any authoritative source defining the neighborhood boundary? Carlo (talk) 21:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dolkart's book is probably the most authoritative. He says, "Since Morningside Heights is defined as a distinct neighborhood primarily by its topography, it should be easy to determine the area's boundaries. Indeed, to the west and east, the geology clearly demarcates the neighborhood. .... while the Morningside cliff to the east separates the area from Harlem." I'm not sure where the editor adding Manhattan Avenue as the Eastern boundary is getting his/her information from. (See p. 3-4 of the book - it is referenced in the article.) --RegentsPark (talk) 21:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the 1970s (and maybe into the 1980s) there was a local weekly, umm, monthly, err, occasional community newspaper focused on the area and going by the name "Heights and Valley News". (The editor, Bruce Bailey, was murdered on June 14, 1989. No one was ever charged). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki-ny-2007 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Photo caption

The campus photo's caption is misleading. It shows only a small southern portion of the western side of the campus (not quite 116 St down to almost 114 Street) from the grassy field in front of Butler Library. (Attended the university 6 years and lived across the street an additional 7) 2604:2000:50C7:8D00:7969:6BAD:B3DC:1A26 (talk) 11:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology of name

For this and other articles on places named Morningside in New York - where does the name come from? Is it related to the famous Morningside in Edinburgh, Scotland? It's odd that there's a discussion of the indigenous and Dutch names for the area, but not for Morningside itself. 86.133.202.151 (talk) 07:43, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]