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"Interim Government of Waker uz Zaman" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Interim Government of Waker uz Zaman has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 8 § Interim Government of Waker uz Zaman until a consensus is reached. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 05:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am against this redirect simply because it is inaccurate. There is no such government. Waker uz Zaman has never taken power or tried to take power after the student protest, he simply announced there would be an interim government, not that he would head it or that the military would be involved. Adding a redirect provides legitimacy to a claim which is- by all accounts, nonsensical akin to Mike Johnson redirecting to the Biden Administration because he is Speaker of the House. There were concerns and people open to the possibility of a military government, but Yunus has been sworn in and the military has not tried to take an active political role. The link between Waker uz Zaman and the current cabinet is non-existent, since Yunus was directly chosen by the protestors rather than the military. Poundthiswriter (talk) 00:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Constitutional basis

@Saqib: did you know if the 2011 amendment have been repelled? Panam2014 (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Panam2014, I have no idea. I'm not from Bangladesh and don’t know much about it. But ask me anything about Pakistan—I'm happy to help! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has, I added a section covering this and the effect it has on the legality of interim cabinets such as Yunus' Poundthiswriter (talk) 01:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RENAME ARTICLE

Based on other wikipedia articles concerning Chief Advisers such as "Iajuddin Ahmed Cabinet" and "Fakhruddin Ahmed ministry", etc. , I propose that we rename this article to "Mohammad Yunus cabinet" or "Muhammad Yunus ministry" or even better "Muhammad Yunus interim cabinet/government/ministry"

My points:

1. Like all the cabinets/ministries that are named, the title of the article always refers to the head (aka. Chief Adviser).

2. This government is supposed to go on for much longer than just 2024. Most likely, the government is to stay here for 3 years. So, 2024, 2025, 2026, and 2027. Hence, the name "2024 Bangladesh interim government" does not make sense to me. GucciNuzayer (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wiki N Islam:, @Addo Adwin:, @ApurboWiki2024:, @Lahsim Niasoh: We should name it "Mohammad Yunus ministry", just like the first interim government of Bangladesh of Shahabuddin. It also doesn’t make sense to have "interim government" in the title.Need some thoughts...Bruno pnm ars (talk) 04:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For consistency I would indeed prefer Muhammad Yunus interim cabinet or Muhammad Yunus cabinet, as this seems to be the wikipedia standard (I am new though so don't quote me on that), however I don't agree with point 2, since Yunus has already stated he wishes for elections to occur as soon as possible [1]https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/bangladesh-interim-govt-committed-to-holding-free-and-fair-elections-yunus-124081700381_1.html so let's not jump the gun regarding the duration of this cabinet and just update as things develop rather than speculating. Poundthiswriter (talk) 01:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruno pnm ars: @Poundthiswriter: I completely agree with changing the article name in accordance with the other cabinet/government articles on Wikipedia. But only Yunus ministry is enough (note I have kept the "Yunus ministry" emboldened in the article and as the cabinet name in the infobox). The reason for this is that, as long as the head of the government is recognizable by his last name, the first name isn't required. For example, when creating the article for Abu Sadat Mohammad Sayem's 1975 interim government, I named it simply Sayem ministry since he is recognizable by the last name. In the case of Shahabuddin Ahmed or, say, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the last name is extremely common and hence the first name or personal name is required. In the latter's case, only "Mujib" is enough since he headed multiple ministries like Khaleda Zia, for example. - Ash wki (talk) 07:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of the "Coord" template

Greetings and felicitations. While I'm generally for the inclusion of {{Coord}} templates, I don't see the point of one in this particular article. Comments? —DocWatson42 (talk) 21:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background section template

The "Background" section of the article is some sort of template, this makes it a pain in the ass to edit (at least on PC) or change inaccuracies or to update it. I suggest removing the template so it can be edited without hassle like the other sections, since there are a lot of developments in the Yunus government right now and keeping everything up to date is already a challenge as it is. Poundthiswriter (talk) 00:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Poundthiswriter Update the actual article the excerpt is from. It's not like the current developments are changing the background. We're talking about what happened that led to this government, right? - Ash wki (talk) 07:43, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Interim government of Muhammad Yunus with Yunus interim government

Both pages appear to cover the same topic, and as noted in a recent RM discussion, they should probably be merged, or we should do a better job separating the contents and then move Yunus interim government to a more appropriate title. ASUKITE 16:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also missed the above discussion about moving this. Moving may be a better option, and if anybody agrees, I won't get in the way. I already closed a related RM and may be involved, but a move to something like Cabinet of Muhammad Yunus (which was suggested in the RM) might be a good option. ASUKITE 16:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree, this article covers the overall set up of the interim government, but that article covers the overall leadership of Yunus ministry. Both are different topics. I rather propose moving this to a more appropriate title. Ahammed Saad (talk) 18:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I feel the same way at this point. Rather than let this get delayed an extra week, I think I will withdraw this and put in an RM instead. ASUKITE 20:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahammed Saad @Asukite Who named it "interim government of Muhammad Yunus" when all other articles on the governments of Bangladesh have "ministry" in their titles, such as second Mujib ministry, Ziaur Rahman ministry, Sayem ministry, Shahabuddin Ahmed ministry, first Khaleda ministry, Habibur Rahman ministry, Fakhruddin Ahmed ministry or fifth Hasina ministry? Note Sayem ministry and Shahabuddin ministry were interim governments. It should have been named Yunus ministry, which I already created as an alternative name redirect. I propose placing the article under that title. - Ash wki (talk) 18:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 September 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Yunus ministry. Participants found this option to be WP:CONSISTENT with the titles of articles on related topics. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yunus interim government → Cabinet of Muhammad Yunus – Per the related move at Interim government of Muhammad Yunus, it was suggested that the the two articles are confusingly named and that this page should probably be renamed. I am unsure what title to go with, but one suggestion at the RM was Cabinet of Muhammad Yunus, which seems appropriate. I wanted to try a bold move first, but I already tried a merge request which I then changed my mind about and may be slightly involved, so I'm hoping to help us arrive at a stable title. I don't have a strong opinion as to the title, but I would support Cabinet of Muhammad Yunus, or anything similar that helps to clarify the topic of this article. (no prejudice against a merge either if that comes up here) ASUKITE 14:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Politics and WikiProject Bangladesh have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 14:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Mehedi Abedin 07:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support for renaming, but I rather propose the name Yunus ministry, just like the articles Shahabuddin Ahmed ministry & Sayem ministry. Ahammed Saad (talk) 08:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the title Yunus ministry agreeing with Ahammed Saad, just like all the articles related to the governments/cabinets of Bangladesh, such as second Mujib ministry or first Khaleda ministry and including the interim governments Shahabuddin Ahmed ministry & Sayem ministry. - Ash wki (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Yunus ministry (as nom) - my nomination left the title open, but I may as well make it official - this seems like a good choice of title as noted above. ASUKITE 17:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.