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Pronounciation ?
[edit]Considering there are two fairly common was to pronounce the word can someone update this bit, perhaps making which is official. Not that I can seem to find much about it online - SimonLyall 13:23, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
From all my time living in Taupo and staying on Marae, I have only been instructed on the single pronounciation (as it appears currently). - Seriocomic 23:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Well until about 5 years ago every time I heard it (including TV) it was pronounced like "cow-po" and now it is "tow-paw" by some (but not all). perhaps something like the Shibboleth bit at the bottom of the Oamaru. - SimonLyall 00:38, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- I fully understand where you are coming from, but are we to educate as to the correct (via phonetic rather than character interpretation) pronounciation or are we to explain that due to lack of education there exist(s)ed another coloquial. I am not a language or Te Reo Māori authority. Perhaps flagging the pronounciation as in need of expert correction would be an idea. I will in the mean-time remove the 'toe-paw' part and leave the IPC. - Seriocomic 03:25, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- In Turangi we say tow-paw, but as Simon said, about 5 or so years ago a lot of people said cow-po. Athrough, it won't hurt to have both, with a footnote, saying something like "This was the pronounciation used by Non Maori, but is not correct..." Brian | (Talk) 05:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- I fully understand where you are coming from, but are we to educate as to the correct (via phonetic rather than character interpretation) pronounciation or are we to explain that due to lack of education there exist(s)ed another coloquial. I am not a language or Te Reo Māori authority. Perhaps flagging the pronounciation as in need of expert correction would be an idea. I will in the mean-time remove the 'toe-paw' part and leave the IPC. - Seriocomic 03:25, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- In Te Reo Māori, the diphthong "au" is basically pronounced like the "oe" in "toe". To more accurately recreate the sound, however, you move your mouth from an "ah" shape to an "oo" shape smoothly, without emphasising the change. And of course "o" is pronounced like the "o" in "oar". That just leaves the consonants, and there's nothing tricky there. I believe the current pronunciation is correct, and "toe-paw" is probably the closest phoenetically. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to include a note about a previous and incorrect pronunciation, but I'm not against it. However, it would then be necessary to go back through most Māori place names and include the same note. Whangarei springs to mind instantly. --Gatekepa 15:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Until recently the normal pronunciation was tau-po. Then the PC brigade decided that was incorrect and gave us something it never was. Half the road signs have been changed so we have a bit of a dogs breakfast - neither one thing or another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.216.214 (talk) 22:46, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Photo
[edit][1] there a photos on the Lake Taupo article if you want a photo of the lake, or is it a photo of the township area wanted? Brian | (Talk) 22:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Suburb Articles
[edit]I note that separate articles are being generated for each suburb of Taupo. However, it seems unlikely that they are ever likely to move beyond sub-stubs - unless they are fille with inane stuff like "there is a primary school, playcentre and 2 dairies". I think that there is a case for articles for some suburbs of larger cities where there is a reasonable history (for example Riccarton in Christchurch which was a separate Brorough until 1989), but Taupo is very young (population c. 1000 in the 1940's) and there is little history for individual suburbs that is verifiable or noteworthy. The section on suburbs in this article could well be expanded to carry any additional relevant information. dramatic 00:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Well i created all of those articles on the suberbs of taupo and it took a lot of work i am for maybe merging it with the taupo article but i deffenintly dont it to be deleted because a little infomation is better than nothing --Kiwiclipart 08:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
What is up with all the differant suburbs? Kind of looks like it has been divided up by a real estate agent. Acacia Bay, Nukuhau, Central, Tauhara, Hilltop, Richmond Heights, Rainbow Point and Wharewaka should really cover it. Phantom kiwi (talk) 09:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I live close by the Botanical Gardens and have never heard of the area being referred to as Gradwell. Sounds like somebodys wish.222.152.216.214 (talk) --222.152.216.214 (talk) 22:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Supervolcano
[edit]Taupo is the location of the most recent supervolcano eruption (26,000 years ago.) JAF1970 18:11, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- That would belong more into Lake Taupo. Ingolfson (talk) 12:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]I gather from the earlier discussion that it used to be /ˈtaʊpoʊ/ ("TAU-poe") but is now usually /ˈtoʊpɔː/ ("TOE-paw"). Currently we have [ˈtoʊ.pʊər] ("TOE-poor"), which doesn't look right - there's no <r> in Taupo. If "TOE-paw" is what we want to go with, the IPA should be /ˈtoʊpɔː/. Lfh (talk) 14:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- This post might be old, but I agree that there is only one correct pronunciation of Taupo, which is the /ˈtoʊpɔː/ (as spoken in Maori). Ajf773 (talk) 04:04, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- user:161.29.98.194 was reverted today for changing the sentence on pronunciation. I think he/she is correct but will not get involved in an edit war. More broadly speaking though, this same issue is common to numerous NZ based articles. There is, IMO, a fundemental misunderstanding, hence misuse, of the pronunciation guidelines, if any exist. We cannot change a person's accent and should not attempt to do so. Whether Taupo is pronounced T-au-po or Toe-poo is a matter of accent. English speakers will pronounce the word in countless different ways depending on their local accent. What is meant by a regional pronunciation being prefered, or highlighted, is not the chosen vowel sound, but the more substantial change that makes the word sound quite different from what one would normally expect - for example, how is Duke of Buccleuch pronounced? It's correct pronunciation has nothing to do with a regional vowel sound or minor stress change. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 23:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- If the pronunciation is used on a widespread scale, I don't think it makes sense to say it is "incorrect" rather than "often regarded as incorrect". Why would people say it if no one considered it correct? Dictionaries record usages, not instruct people on how to use them. The same thing should apply to encyclopaedias. Anyone is free to revert my revert. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, I got the edits mixed up. Yes, I think your version is correct and the IP version is incorrect. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 01:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- user:161.29.98.194 was reverted today for changing the sentence on pronunciation. I think he/she is correct but will not get involved in an edit war. More broadly speaking though, this same issue is common to numerous NZ based articles. There is, IMO, a fundemental misunderstanding, hence misuse, of the pronunciation guidelines, if any exist. We cannot change a person's accent and should not attempt to do so. Whether Taupo is pronounced T-au-po or Toe-poo is a matter of accent. English speakers will pronounce the word in countless different ways depending on their local accent. What is meant by a regional pronunciation being prefered, or highlighted, is not the chosen vowel sound, but the more substantial change that makes the word sound quite different from what one would normally expect - for example, how is Duke of Buccleuch pronounced? It's correct pronunciation has nothing to do with a regional vowel sound or minor stress change. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 23:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)