Template talk:GeoGroup

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This template was considered for deletion on 2007 August 2. The result of the discussion was "Keep".

A new weirdness today: First coord is duplicated

GeoGroup is creating two "pins" on the map for the first coordinate it encounters in a lot of articles, e.g., Victoria Harbour (British Columbia). It seems to occur where the infobox has a coord set to "display=inline,title". Kerry (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. DB111 (talk) 09:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A couple more issues

First, the GeoGroup is titled as "article" rather than the name of the article.

More importantly though, the grouping of the points into clustered is not helpful on most maps I create. For example, South Coast railway line, Queensland previously showed the reader all 20 stations along the route in sequence. Now they are unhelpfully clustered into 4 groups. I can imagine there are situations when clustering might be useful, but it's not for most of the maps I create, where I am trying to show the relative position of the points of interest to one another as an aid to understanding the geography of the area. Could the use of clusturing be made a parameter so it could be turned on when it suits the map for that article, but the default be the display of points as before. Thanks. Kerry (talk) 02:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kerry: The clustering is controlled by the two pins/ellipse icon at the top of the location list on the map, and can be permanently set (via cookies) using the star icon to get a Settings menu. -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 09:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Permanently on what basis? Per user? Or can I control it from the Wikipedia article? Kerry (talk) 21:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly I have never enabled clustering yet I was seeing clusters. Kerry (talk) 21:37, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's controlled per user within OSM. According to the Settings drop-down, the settings are 'permanently stored in cookies', so they last as long as the cookies do. I think it is a pity that the default is to use clustering, which makes it different from the previous behaviour, but each user can disable it (if they try out the icons). -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 23:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also the section headings are lost and therefore the ability to enable/disable display of that section

For example with List of schools in Darling Downs, it was possible to know which schools were open/closed, primary/secondary and filter accordingly. Now those distinctions and that capability has disappeared.

Also, the map starts loading in Germany and with a spinning wheel. Can this be suppressed please.

Given that the GeoGroup template is used on very many articles, perhaps there is needs to be some discussion before changes are made. While they may suit some articles, they may not suit others and a conversation in advance to obtain consensus on what should be default and what optional etc. Thanks Kerry (talk) 02:37, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Documentation is here on the German wiki. Google translate seems to give a clear translation, but I don't read German so I cannot be sure. -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 09:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please add a topic with your pain points here, you can write in English for sure. DB111 (talk) 09:40, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a topic there listing all the points raised in this and the previous topic. -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 11:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category recursion

I just discovered this template on a List page and am hoping to incorporate it into other List articles for Wikipedia:WikiProject Hospitals. I read about the "level" parameter and tried to add it but it doesn't seem to be working for me. Specifically, I've added it to List of hospitals in Massachusetts, using article=Category:Hospitals in Massachusetts and setting level=0, which if I'm reading correctly is supposed to allow it to also pull from all levels of subcategories. Unfortunately, the map then only shows the lone hospital categorized at the top level, Nantucket Cottage Hospital, and is not pulling from sub-categories. I've also tried setting it to 1 and 3, with the exact same results. Can someone explain what I'm doing wrong? Thank you in advance! Mangocove (talk) 18:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The underlying interface to OSM has recently been extensively re-written, leading to the previous two topics. The author 'resides' on the German wikipedia, and has responded well to information about problems experienced here. All discussion with me was in English. I suggest you contact them on this linked talk page, and describe your concerns and expectations.

Ultimately, {{GeoGroup}} merely creates a URL, the important code is at osm4wiki.toolforge.org, and if it can no longer do what our parameters expect, we may have to remove those parameters. -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 18:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The subcategory feature has been disabled for years in this tool (for unclear performance reasons), but please ask Plenz to enable it again. In the meantime you could additionally include WikiMap to the template (example: https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?lang=en&page=Category:Hospitals_in_Massachusetts&subcats=true), but this tool lacks Section support. DB111 (talk) 10:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support "position" parameter from {{side box}}

I have been using this template on mountain range pages but often the side box ends up below the mountain infobox on the right side and not directly in the relevant section. Could this template add support for the "/position=left" parameter from {{Side box}} so I could have the box displayed directly below the table of mountains? RedWolf (talk) 20:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]