Template talk:Infobox tennis biography

Template-protected edit request on 12 July 2022

Could you please edit this link to [[Wimbledon Championships|Wimbledon]] in the infobox template for players have competed in the Wimbledon Championships following a move request per Talk:Wimbledon#Requested move 3 July 2022. ApprenticeFan ^work 04:21, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

blank entries for w/l

Is it worth amending this so that the default text is something like "incomplete" rather than 0-0 when the parameter is not entered - many players have 0-0 in classes that they have also won tournaments in. 2A02:C7C:60D7:5200:7978:6726:851A:FED3 (talk) 14:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit request 12 January 2023

Description of suggested change: Request for adding a new parameter under the Team competitions section for the United Cup. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:19, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Probrably adding | label97 = [[United Cup]] and | data97 = {{{United Cup|}}}, and subsquently update the follow-up parameters. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 08:45, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, Primefac (talk), but I am very sorry that for the consistency with the other parameters, the | data97 = {{{United Cup|}}} better to be | data97 = {{{UnitedCupresult|}}}. Also, I'm afraid that the Check for unknown parameters checklist also needs an update, so that the warning message would not be triggered in the preview when the parameter is implentmented. This could be done by set

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Done. Primefac (talk) 08:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

This should never have been added without substantial consultation with tennis project. This is a minor event with no history, just like Laver Cup. There are plenty of events that are purposely omitted from the infobox and, without discussion, none should be added. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Reverted as contested. Primefac (talk) 07:18, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 4 June 2023

Could you change the link from Fed Cup to Billie Jean King Cup? Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:19, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 14:25, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done, BJK Cup already has a link and params. Unless consensus says otherwise, I would argue that keeping it as "Fed Cup" will keep the names consistent for the time period in which the cup was won. Primefac (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

No. of Grand Slams won

Please give a line as "No. of grandslams won: __ " (for both singles and doubles) in infobox. Beacuse everytime when the user views the wiki page of a top player, he/she has to count the number of grandslams won, if he/she wants to know how much grandslams the player has won.
--106.51.179.120 (talk) 06:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

The terminology would have to be different before considering. The last male to win a Grand Slam was Rod Laver in 1969. Steffi Graf was the last female. I suppose under the "Grand Slam singles results" in the infobox we could have something like Total won: 3. The trouble is 99.9% of players will have won zero. This will affect very few articles and even those who have won a major it's probably 1-4 which is easily countable. It's rare players like Graf and Djokovic that cause the heavy counting. So maybe it could be added for those rare times it could be useful. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

There is a line as: "Career titles:__". Another line can be given below as: "Career grandslams: __", which can be made visible only if the player has won a grandslam.
--106.51.179.120 (talk) 07:16, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

It would never be written as "Career Grandslams". One it's two words, and two... no player has won a Grand Slam since 1988. Maybe "Major titles". Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:36, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I didnt mean Calender Grandslam. In the article Grand Slam (tennis) its given as "...winning all four major championships in one discipline in a calendar year,.." and in article Wimbledon Championships, as: "Wimbledon is one of the four Grand Slam tennis tournaments...". User:Fyunck(click), whats your view on this?
--106.51.179.120 (talk) 08:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

We have to be careful not to confuse readers with the terms. There really is no calendar Grand Slam. There is Grand Slam (winning all four majors in a year) and non-calendar Grand Slam (winning all four majors consecutively but not in a single year). There is also the four tennis "majors" or "Grand Slam tournaments" which are the individual events that make up a Grand Slam. You really need to make sure the word "tournament" is attached so as not to confuse it with the term Grand Slam. If it ever gets put in the infobox it would need to use "major" or "Grand Slam tournaments", and Grand Slam tournament totals is a bit long for the box width. Plus the term "Career Grand Slam" is actually used to refer to winning all four majors at any time in a player's career. 08:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Fyunck(click) (talk)

Concur with Fyunck; we already have a list of "Grand Slam singles results" listed in the infobox, and as mentioned it's happened all of 25 times in the last century, so the signal/noise ratio is rather low and not really worth including (especially given all of the potential confusion and/or misuse indicated above). Primefac (talk) 08:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

It's possible we could add something like I did here on Federer's article (putting major titles under singles titles), but I'm not sure we need it or if we could get the Tennis Project to go along with it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you User:Fyunck(click). User:Primefac, please consider adding a line "Major titles won: __" because, there are around 37 players (in both men and women) who has won 7+ major titles, and whenever their page is visited and if the user wants to know their total number of major titles win, he/she has to count looking at the years.
--106.51.179.120 (talk) 10:09, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Honorifics

We should add |honorific prefix= and |honorific suffix=, like in {{Infobox person}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:52, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 July 2023

Change "Coach" to "Coach(es)" in the Infobox tennis biography 72.226.1.120 (talk) 15:02, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Usually a player has only one coach. And only the current coach is supposed to be in the infobox, the rest in a separate prose section. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 20:29, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 23 July 2023

Description of suggested change: Remove font-weight: lighter from belowstyle for accessibility reasons. It’s font-weight: 100 and basically unreadable on macOS. NM 00:58, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Maybe I'm missing something, the font is the same size for me in places like Venus Williams. Am I opposed, no, but I don't know what "lighter" is supposedly doing. Primefac (talk) 12:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done It looks OK to me in my browser, but with some fonts, reducing the weight (i.e. the opposite of bolding) can make text thin and difficult to read. There is no benefit to a lighter weight here, and some potential for accessibility problems. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Primefac, I forgot to provide this link for an explanation of what "lighter" does. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Color change

I propose we change the header color to a green, similar to how the Infobox for swimmers has a blue color for their headers. I’ve made the changes in the sandbox as an example of what it would look like with a “tennis ball green” coloring Bluealbion (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

University field

Add "/university" to |college= so that it displays the university names for biographies of American or non-American tennis players who competed in Canada's U Sports or any varsity competition elsewhere outside the United States. Santiago Claudio (talk) 04:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I would say no as U Sports isn't notable per Tennis project. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I meant to type... add "/university" to |label13=college when this infobox is in biographies of non-American tennis players who played U.S. varsity tennis. Santiago Claudio (talk) 05:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done Easy enough to add a |university= parameter, which will also change the label if used. Primefac (talk) 09:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)