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Supplementary question on your RfA

Hello! I have asked a supplementary question on your RfA. I look forward to reading your answer! Regards, (aeropagitica) 23:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Award

		The Original Barnstar
		For your incredible devotion to improving the BBC articles, I, Sharkface217 hereby award you this barnstar. Sharkface217 02:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and be sure to answer the extra questions on your RFA page. Sharkface217 02:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:AMA

Hi Wikiwoohoo,

Thanks for your nice note on my talk page. I appreciate the time you took to write it. I wish you the best of luck coordinating the AMA. Best wishes, Firsfron of Ronchester 06:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Other images

The same applies to Image:BBC Robert Peston.jpg, Image:BBC Rob Bonnet.jpg, Image:BBC Louise Minchin.jpg, Image:BBC Matthew Amroliwala.jpg, Image:BBC Jamie Owen.jpg as to Jamie Owen. There may be others... All these fail the first fairuse criterion because the subjects are living and free images are obtainable. - crz crztalk 17:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

You misunderstood the policy. Where the subject is living, not incarcerated etc. and therefore reasonably available, fair use is not permitted by foundation policy. We may either ask the subject for a photo directly or stalk s/him and snap one. See here - crz crztalk 17:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

All unfree images, yes. You unfamiliarity with this major change in policy that took places over two months ago illustrates what I meant in my vote at your RfA. - crz crztalk 17:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Believe me, I didn't like it either. Many of my contributions are bios and I lost thirty or so images of my uploading to this policy change. It's hard to believe you haven't seen these things happening all over articlespace! - crz crztalk 18:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Userpage banner

If you don't mind my asking, what program did you use to create that banner and is it available for Mac? I'd like to create something similar for my userpage. Good luck with the RfA! ~ Mike (Talk) 00:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Hi Wikiwoohoo. I just wanted to give you a little encouragement regarding your RfA. I don't think you'll be successful this time around, but given a little more time and experience, a second try will be better received. (I don't think you were lying about your old username; really that whole accusation sounded weird to me.) Let me know if you have questions at all; I'm here to help. --Fang Aili ^talk 15:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

benon questions

Never mind. We've already done that. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 17:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Thanks for your note. No problem. Just seeking to clarify and understand. I tend to be a little too blunt sometimes. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 18:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for Adminship

Your request for adminship has now closed; it is my regretful duty to inform you that it did not achieve consensus. I must say, however, that it was one of the better discussed RFAs I have seen recently, and was a much more difficult one to close. Many good points were made on both sides, and I felt that some of the reasons set forth for opposition were insufficient; I came very close to the extremely rare action of publicly striking !votes. Unfortunately, when considered as a whole, there simply was not consensus for a promotion. I hope that you will keep up your good work, be encouraged by the positive feedback, shrug off those who sought to silence your positive contributions, and grow from the constructive criticism. I believe that if you try again in the future you will be successful. Best wishes, Essjay (Talk) 02:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

If I may butt in, "Hear, hear!" Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 13:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I felt bad when you got an oppose vote based on your username. What else would Essjay have struck though? Anyway, in three months you should do fine if you keep it up. Good luck and I'll see you around. - čřž čřžtalk 20:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Close election

I am sorry about your candidacy. However, I hope you continue your strong contributions to the encyclopedia. I was glad to see the marked improvement in the responses to your candidacy. I am only one voter and my opinion should be regarded as such. Have you ever looked at yourself here. That is why I gave my comments about only BBC articles. IMO it would be great if you had other contributions to make. However, it is likely that continued hard work of any kind will be appreciated. TonyTheTiger 23:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Your thanks

Dear Wikiwoohoo, Sorry for your RfA. I appreciate to see you again in a second. My support will be with you again.Regards.Must^TC 20:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I also want to say "You're welcome" - and add a note: you were one of the most, well, active participants I've seen in an RfA, and I suspect it didn't help you. Sometimes it's best to just let the process happen as it will, acknowledging that there will always be some negative votes and comments, and only jumping in to respond to questions or clear misunderstandings that others (give them a chance) fail to correct. The alternative - ongoing involvement - can be seen by some folks as bordering on obsessive-compulsive, and (perhaps subconsciously) they may think "omigod what happens if I get on the wrong side of this pit-bull when he has admin powers?" John Broughton | Talk 21:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Apologies not needed for me - I didn't have any problem with it - just sayin'. You might want to ask a couple others their opinion, that's all. John Broughton | Talk 21:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

nice try

Well, it was a good effort. I hope you got something positive out of the RFA grinder. Having had a nomination be close but no consensus, I know how it can be. Hopefully it will point out to you areas you can improve and your next one will be stellar. Hell it's been like....8 months since my RFA I think, and I still don't feel 100% to re apply. Anyway good luck. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 20:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, PS: You should try admin coaching if you haven't already. I did, and it's helped already. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 20:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Your RFA

Hope you aren't discouraged. As someone who initially opposed then changed to neutral I was tempted to change to support based on some of the oppose reasoning. The issue regarding your previous username seemed odd given that as others pointed out you could easily have said nothing and as they say ignorance is bliss. Being an admin can be hard work, leads to increased scrutiny and therefore increased criticism, there are good arguments (for the sake on the encyclopaedia and the individual) that good editors should concentrate on just that and ignore the admin stuff, though if you feel you can add more to wikipedia by being an admin good luck when you next run. --pgk 22:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about the RfA. Your RfA was awfully close to being successful, and I have no doubts that your future RfA will be a complete success. =) Nishkid64 22:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

You're Welcome

I hope to run for RFA in a month or two, I hope I can get that many support votes. :-) Just H 02:01, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

From me as well. I'd have put you through, perhaps in a few months eh? Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . Editor Review} 04:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

IFD discussions

Hi, could you please refrain from removing "completed" nominations from IFD discussion pages? The reason being that if one were trying to figure out why an image was being deleted (from Special:Log for example) and came to the page looking for the discussion, one should be able to find it there. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 17:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikilogos

I thought you might be interested in my proposal for Wikipedia to use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Logo Variations and on my talk page. Thanks! FrummerThanThou 08:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

That is a pretty good idea, and I have noticed that Google has started doing something kinda like that. Ninety^wazup? 22:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello there!

Hello! I was wondering if you would be interested in joining a WikiProject known as WikiProject Abandoned Articles. This WikiProject is concerned with getting abandoned articles (eg:articles not visited in more than a long time which has not yet been decided upon) to be visited more often. Thanks!! Ninety^wazup? 22:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you for your input at my RFA, which successfully closed at 58/2/0. I will think about the 10 questions and answers I had, and I hope that I will use the tools constructively and for the benefit of Wikipedia. If you ever need any help, don't be afraid to drop me a line. I'm here to help afterall! ‎8) -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 00:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:BBC Parliament image

Thanks for letting me know, and for your help with saving ITV Idents and Presentation, if you wouldn't mind, could you let me know what the largest OK size for these images is. Thanks again, Aidsoo 22:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Thanks for the speedy response, I sorry for any inconveniences images I have uploaded have caused you. I'm now uploading images at much smaller sizes and will work on resizing the rest, merry christams, Aidsoo 15:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC).

Merry Christmas

Image:Cookie_Christmas.JPG
Happy Christmas-Happy hollydays to you
Must^TC 14:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Winterval(s)!!!! (12-22-06)

Oh, the weather outside is frightful!... But I hope wherever you you are, that it's warm and delightful! : ) —Randfan!!

Dear Cloudbound/Archive 2, I wish you a very, very merry Winterval! And since I don't know which you celebrate, I hope you have/had/will have a very happy Holiday!. Hope you and your family have a magnificent day, or series of days! You might wanna install the "SaucyMillionaire" font to see this correctly. Cheers, mate!:) —Randfan!!

God (or your deity/deities) bless you and your family! —¡Randfan!^{Sign here?} 02:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Christmas Card

Merry Christmas!

Wishing you a happy and safe Christmas season, and a blessed new year. Enjoy where you are, and who your with. Merry Christmas! From, Defrag and Jilly.

Future RFA plans

Hey man,

Hoping you're having a good Christmast braek. Anyway, I recently reviewed your last RFA and realized that it was actually much closer than I had though, so much so that I am asking your permission now for future co-nomination. If you ever plan to run again in an RFA, I wish to co-nominate you for such a position. It's quite obvious that you would have made the cut were it not for some lousy questionable oppose votes (such as "I agree with all of the above" or "Not enough edits" when it was obvious you had more than enough). No rush, as I would never nominate myself more than 6 or so months after my previous RFA. Hope all goes well on the homefront, S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 08:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks! I will stay on as a Deputy with out a prob. I may be a little busy starting next week (Taking an online college calss (My LAST before I get my degree) but I don't think it will be a prob. Æon ^{Insanity Now!}_EA! 03:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Work on BBC Television Idents

Awarded to Wikiwoohoo for all the tireless work on cleaning up articles on idents after their AfD nominations. --tgheretford (talk) 21:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep, it looks a lot better, the key is to write the articles in prose and only use fair use images if prose cannot bring a point across to the reader, which you have done. The only improvement needed now would be reliable sources for the articles, maybe something from Red Bee Media or Lambie-Nairn? --tgheretford (talk) 21:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

re: Sopel

You're welcome & thank you... -- JLaTondre 20:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

AMA

I have withdrawn my nomination for Deputy, and have already notified Martinp23. Geo. 17:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

BBC One ident images - fair use

Many thanks for your message Orphaned fair use image (Image:BBC One Capoeira Wales.jpg). I originally re-uploaded both Image:BBC One Capoeira Wales.jpg and Image:BBC One Capoeira.jpg, previously used (if I recall correctly) in BBC television idents and BBC 'Rhythm & Movement' idents, when I noticed a spelling error made by the original uploader in the names of both images. I uploaded the images again with their current names and nominated the originals for deletion. This was purely to make finding these images using the search facility easier.

I fully support your work on the aforementioned articles (see my comment here) and understand why this image does not meet the specified criteria. If one or both of these images are no longer required or allowed as a result, I am happy for them to be removed. Thanks again. Silver Nemesis 16:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Press Gang

Thanks for reviewing the article and for your kind comments. Much appreciated. Cheers. The JPS^{talk to me} 23:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Removal of images

Why do you keep removing fair use tv screenshot images? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davesmith33 (talk • contribs)

Your GA nomination of BBC News 24

The article BBC News 24 you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:BBC News 24 for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations. BigHairRef | Talk 19:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

A question of portal - my answer

Unisouth did all the coding for that page, but you can change the colour of the boxes by editing the Portal:BBC/box-header and changing the relevant field to either the name of the colour (ie. Black) or the six figure HTML colour hexadecimal number the colour you want is. Hope this helps. --tgheretford (talk) 19:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

And yes, I agree, grey is dull! --tgheretford (talk) 19:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

A lot better, though anything beats grey! :D --tgheretford (talk) 19:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

A bolt out of the blue

In response to the post you made on my talk page:

Sure. And thanks for the kind words and for nominating me in advance. --tgheretford (talk) 22:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the links. I am aware and know most of what is said from those links, but I will have read through all the documents. I'll give you a defintive response once I have decided after reading everything. --tgheretford (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Decision

I've made a decision about the request for adminship, and I have decided for the moment not to go ahead for nomination. My primary reason being (thinking it through for the last week) is that I should take time to focus on my cognitive behavioral therapy for my social anxiety, which needs to be the main priority at the moment (alongside thinking positively in social situations). I think it would not hurt as well for me to read through the Wikipedia policies and guidelines in my own time.

Treatment for that should be complete in a few months, and then if you wish, you can ask me if I wish to be nominated for a request for adminship.

Again, thank you for the kind words and the request for the nomination. Take care.

Gareth --tgheretford (talk) 18:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Mimi Smith

I thank you very kindly, Sir. The article has gone from B to GA in a short time, and your comments about FA are very welcome. I will now celebrate and send congratulatory notes to the contributing editors. Thank you again. andreasegde 15:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Alexander Litvinenko

I've replied on the talk page. Thanks, RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 19:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Sethie

This request has been referred for investigation. Just thought you would want to know —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo.plrd (talk • contribs) Sethie filed a request. Computerjoe has referred it for investigation of his conduct as an advocate.Geo. 18:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

AMA investigation

Hi Computerjoe, I'm Wikiwoohoo, one of the deputy co-ordinators.

It has been brought to my attention that there have been problems and accusations of improper conduct that have arisen within the case of Sethie and TimidGuy.

What I'd like to do is find out all the facts behind this case and solve this problem as soon as possible. Would it be possible for you to provide me with a full statement of your version of events and once I have gathered the same from the two other users in question, I will be able to investigate fully.

I appreciate you may be busy outside Wikipedia so any reply in your own time will be very much appreciated, either on my talk page or if you prefer, my email address: shown on my user page. Many thanks for your time; I hope to be able to solve this problem as soon as I can. Wikiwoohoo 19:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I voluteeered to co-advocate this case, and almost immediately concerns were raised over whether I was acting as mediator or advocate. I said I was acting as an advocate trying to find a mutually beneficial solution.

While I was acting as advocate, everything seemed to calm down. However, my advocee was uncivil on multiple occasions - which I warned him about - and I also removed something I saw as a personal attack from his user page. [1].

Sethie complained I was only seeing his incivility, not the other party's.

I referred it to investigation as I felt I might have acted inappropiately as an advocate. Thanks, Computerjoe's talk 19:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

i think Computerjoe has acted admirably. His focus has been on getting this dispute resolved, without having to waste official time with what could be considered petty. i have also notified Deputy Martinp23, as he was involved in this case, peripherally. Geo. 20:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Investigation of Computerjoe

Thanks, Wikiwoohoo, for investigating and for helping to maintain a high standard for Advocates.

I have no complaint with Computerjoe. He made a sincere effort to get a very deeply rooted conflict moving toward some sort of resolution. I can be faulted for waffling and not really heeding his suggestions. In particular, it wasn't until too late that I realized the value of his suggstion of having a neutral space where Advocates and Advocees could congregate to discuss possible approaches to resolution. I guess I didn't initially clearly understand what he had in mind.

The course of events was simple: he made a number of suggestions, I waffled, then Sethie got upset with him for certain actions.

All of this is new to me, but I feel that Computerjoe was right to be concerned about Sethie's documented and ongoing incivility and abrasiveness. It will be very damaging to him in any sort of dispute process. An attorney would have done as Computerjoe did and make clear to his client his vulnerabilities. He suggested to Sethie several times that his tone wasn't appropriate. And ultimately, he deleted some damaging material from Sethie's user page. TimidGuy 12:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Copied from case page by Geo. 18:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Not feeling overly comfortable posting under a section called "investigation".... I'd rather be posting under a section called "disatisfaction" and... here goes.

I asked for ComputerJoe to not be my advocate anymore after his last response to me on this page: "Please be careful. You are sounding very uncivil. I have also removed a part of your userpage which could be considered as a personal attack."

His reprimanding me for sounding uncivil, along with reprimanding me for some concerns he had with my user page, here, right after Timidguy comes here and throws out such.... thinly vieled personal attacks as "I don't see how we can ever deal with the disputed sources in the article if Sethie intends to change the focus of every RfC into a personal issue" and "But I just don't see the pont, since Sethie would likely turn it into a personal issue" just didn't feel as if I had an advocate.

As I said on my userpage "TG has been issueing all sorts of exagerations, distortions and innacuracies about me on HIS AMA page. I figured that is his perogative. However once he came to mine and started the same stuff here... that doesn't work for me. I stand by what I said to him, I challenged his accusations. Maybe I could have said it differently.

To be honest, he was very helpful in exploring possible routes/channels for me and TG to work out our differences.Sethie 06:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Alexander Litvinenko

The Wikimedia servers are hosted in Florida and thus responsive to US law, not the UK copyright laws the BBC's work comes under. Is there a chance this means the article can be passed? I have already talked to the Guardian and AP about getting permission for proper use of the image, but AP said I need to talk to Getty Images. RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 14:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I've had no reply from Getty but to be honest don't see how contacting the BBC would help, as they don't own the image. Go ahead. RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 21:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you review it please? Thanks. RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 21:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Investigation

Sorry to have to bother you again, but the case marked 2ct7 has been referred for investigation. If you want, I'll look into the matter, so you can focus on Sethie. Geo. 18:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

See this. This looks like a real mess. Geo. 18:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll investigate it, and give you my recommendations. Geo. 18:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Julia Lennon

Julia Lennon needs a review for GA if you are interested... andreasegde 06:39, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Freddie Lennon is also on the 'chopping block'. They were married to each other, after all :)) andreasegde 16:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Future RFA

I will be glad to co-nom you for your future RFA. I ask that you tell me at least a week in advance of your submitting your candidacy. S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 01:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

RE:Editor review

you helped me with some fair use tags with Psdubow on the other topic SomeHuman & 2ct7 are really both at falt and now there are just saying that there shoild be more mediation but that is the only thing that could be told. Cocoaguy 従って _contribs^talk 18:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

BBC New Media photograph.

>>Hi LoopZilla, I'm Wikiwoohoo from Wikipedia.

And I am LoopZilla!

Gordo 21:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Advice sought Wikipedia:Association of Members' Advocates/Requests/February 2007/RayTomes

Hi Wikiwoohoo. I am User:RayTomes Advocate. He is interested in creating a Category:Cycles which has been deleted twice previously. I advised him to set it up again and I would back him. He has now been blocked by User:Ruud Koot. I have requested that Ray be unblocked; however, Ruud is not cooperating. Your advice would be very welcome. Regards SilkTork 17:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your words of encouragement to SilkTork. I agree that he is doing a very good job, and with your other remarks on his talk page. Thank you for your actions and if you have time to stay involved aa a voice of reason in the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_cycles discussion it might help save the day, although I fear that the ignorant are about to triumph. I am going to be away without internet access for the next 11 days, and am concerned about what will happen in my absence. Ray Tomes 21:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

AMA deletion

The Association of Members' Advocates is being threatened with deletion. Please consider visiting and adding your voice to the MFD discussion. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 17:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:BBC logo with glowing backlighting.jpg

I was Flickr reviewing this and the license given on the page (when I located the source since you only gave the author) was CC-BY-ND-2.0 which is not a free license. It is possible the Flickr user changed it but before a review was done we can't be sure. Please comment, or fix it--whatever suits you otherwise it will be deleted. gren グレン 09:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Leaving

I am saddened that you are leaving. I hope you are successful with whatever endevours you should have in your lifetime. Good luck with everything, you shall be missed.

S h a r k f a c e 2 1 7 21:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: Hello

Hi there. Thanks for your message.

I am OK, I am just taking a break whilst I go through the latter stages of my treatment for social anxiety (though in reality, that'll take years to get anywhere near completion). Not on a strict Wikibreak, but when I have been here, I have been working on a new article on Digital radio in the United Kingdom (which still needs a lot of work done to it, especially an image or two), and I want to try and start one on the History of radio in the United Kingdom (currently planned as a template which can be found at User:Tghe-retford/Sandbox 2 - once a relatively good stub can be created to avoid CSD A1 speedy deletion criterion).

Take care. --tgheretford (talk) 15:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Call for AMA Coordination election

("Automated" message) User:CyclePat has proposed to call for a new AMA Coordination election [2]. Independently of your supporting or oppossing to this call, I ask you to contact other 5 active members in order to get a reasonable quorum. Thanks in advance. --Neigel von Teighen 08:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:RT1968.jpg

I've reinstated this in BBC News as Newsroom was a groundbreaking production - the first BBC 2 news programme in 1964 and the first colour one in 1968. Yes, I know it's an RT cover but no other images exist from AP and I feel that this event should be markedZir 01:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello Wikiwoohoo. I just wanted to say a quick thank you for fixing the BBC America logo. When I saw that the current one had been replaced with that short lived (rather ugly one - sorry POV I know) one I knew that somebody had restored something that had been removed several months ago. I am computer illiterate when it comes to images so I did not know how to fix it. Thus, I appreciate the time that you took to straighten all of this out so that the page has the proper logo. Thanks again and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 20:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:BBCnews1982.jpg

I have replaced this in the BBC News article - ANT has a long footnote and refers to the time of the bulletin, so without this picture it's like trying to describe a windmill by using your hands. Also, they are the very first computer generated news titles and are thus notable, more so than Image:BBCnews1999.jpg & Image:BBC News 2007 Generic.jpg. Suggest that you remove one of those, if you want to create a "neatness"....Zir 08:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

"Top of the hour" music on BBC News Channel

Hi. I was just wondering why you had removed the "Top of the hour" music from the BBC News Channel article? Apart from being out of date now, I don't see any reason to remove it. I've restored it for the time being. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 15:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

You are appreciated

Hello! I am genuinely sorry to see that you closed your RfA early. Please don't be discouraged by some of the sour commentary that stained the discussion. FWIW, I was impressed with and appreciative of your contributions to Wikipedia, and I hope to see you here in the days to come. Be well and stay focused -- your good work has its fans. Pastor Theo (talk) 01:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Same here: I too, am disappointed at what happened during your RfA, and with the commentary of some of the participants. I hope you will just take a break, and then return to continue the very good work you do here on Wikipedia. Best wishes. Acalamari 17:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Plenty of us are happy to bop around WP doing productive work without the admin tools. If I submitted an RFA I'd be shredded for lack of deletion experience; but there's so many other things around here that are fun to do, I'm totally okay with that. I hope you soon remember the things you enjoy around here, and choose to unretire and keep helping us out. Best wishes. Townlake (talk) 04:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

• You're very welcome for what I said. :) No, fours unsuccessful RfAs is not a record, so don't worry: the most I think was seven or eight. As for your current status, I am pleased that you've decided to stay, but at the same time, I'm glad you remember the importance of real life too. :) Best wishes. Acalamari 16:19, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The move is done

... for Abbey National. Next time just cut and paste!! Wikidea 11:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Btw, this is on the presumption that nobody will care about the history, and anyone who does can easily find it on the Abbey (bank) page. Wikidea 11:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I care! And I disagree with the move. Raise it at WP:RM if you think I'm wrong. Cheers. Bazj (talk) 15:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

History of BBC television idents

I've created a new BBC News heading and put the three offending channels within it - comments on its Talk page please - Methinks it needs an intro writing covering the history of BBC News idents (on BBC1 mainly) leading up to the three new channels, to explain their circularity (?) tho' I'm not volunteering for this...Zir (talk) 11:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Cut and paste move

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting it into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other articles that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you.

Hi - I know the above is one of those horrible automated messages, but basically, you have performed a "cut and paste move" at Aviance UK. Basically you have cut and pasted the content, rather than using the proper move function. This is bad because it splits the page history. You may want to read WP:MOVE, to read about how to perform moves correctly. In the mean time, I am now trying to clean up the issue with Aviance UK. Hope that helps! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 17:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

(In response to reply on my talk page). Ah, no, you shouldn't do that, as it ruins the page history. What you should do is request the move at Wikipedia:Requested moves, so an admin can delete the page you want to move to and then move it. This avoids page history problems. Anyway, not to worry, an admin has sorted the Aviance UK article out now! Hope you had a good Christmas - have a happy new year! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

IFDs

If you're going to nominate images for deletion, please either tag the images on the article page where they're used, or leave a note (and link) on the article's corresponding talk page. The spectre of "deletion by stealth" (even if that wasn't your intent) leaves a very nasty taste in the mouth. Jheald (talk) 18:09, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. On another point, can we keep the noms together? It makes it much easier for people to review them (both for participants and for closers). Unless you object I propose moving the two images from 28 Dec to the 27 Dec page. Jheald (talk) 18:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

BBC ident history

Please show consensus before making these changes -- in particular, before removing some very significant images, such as the Computer Originated World. Reverting. Jheald (talk) 21:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm a lot more interested in a good encylopedia, than in ticking boxes for the bureaucracy that is the WP:GA process. Our readers are better served by giving them a full and comprehensive presentation -- of the regular editors, you seem to be the only one that wants to make the article (and other articles, seemingly) less comprehensive and less informative.

As you were somebody who substantially created the article, I simply don't get it.

In any case, removing images while there's a WP:FFD actually running on them is a deeply discouraged thing to do. Jheald (talk) 22:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you've seen what I've written on your AfDs and IfDs, but I regard essentially removing all of this from WP as damaging.

It's not good enough to say "The TV Room covers this". It's like saying Britannica and Encarta are out there, so why do we need a Wikipedia at all?

• 1. Who knows whether The TV Room will still be there next month or next year. Too many websites just fold and disappear without trace. On the other hand WP is Forever (at least according to the adverts).
• 2. WP is the "encyclopedia anyone can edit" - and that's also valuable. Anyone can bring good information and contribute to our treatment of these subjects -- not true of the TV room.
• 3. (most importantly) These visuals are part of our national identity and popular culture. They deserve a proper treatment on WP. If we have an article at all on the subject, we should have one that's useful and comprehensive. Of course there's more to write as well, but the first most important thing to establish is what the idents looked like. Having a discussion of the Computer Originated World for example, without showing it, is simply madness.

Particularly for BBC1, I think we have the right number of idents at the moment. For BBC 2, we ought to have one ident more -- something characteristic of the current hollow 2 "window" treatment. The remainder are here or there but we shouldn't shy away from using appropriate fair use content when it is both legal and useful to do so. Jheald (talk) 22:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Re RFC etc. Let's wait until after the current FFDs have closed? Let's leave the page reasonably as it has been at least until then, so people know what they're assessing. I see you've already flagged it at WT:BBC. That should at least be seen by people who have the most interest in the subject. Jheald (talk) 22:43, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I'm sorry I deleted text you added. Feel free to reinsert. I do genuinely think the galleries are the best way to see the whole history at a single glance - much better than a row of thumbnails (cf art-period survey articles, which often do the same). I appreciate that people need to appreciate that a relevant image is coming up - not a problem if the amount of text is small, but something which becomes an issue as the quantity of text increases. (BBC1 is currently the only one that's approaching a problem). I'm not sure what other solutions might work -- maybe to move the gallery up the section, after some text, but before more text?

That's probably where I have to leave our discussion for now... Jheald (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 December 27

Am I missing something? You closed your own FFD requests. Should I presume that that meant you wanted them withdrawn? FFD is really not-a-vote and the presumption is that non-free content will always be deleted if it doesn't meet all of NFCC. If you're sure you want to withdraw the nominations that's fine but if not please let me know. Anyone who quotes Unitedstatesian law at FFD as a supposed justification for keeping non-free content is placing themselves in the "not even wrong" category. Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks for letting me know, Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Reverts

Thanks I appreciate your note. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:19, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Your File Uploads

Hello Wikiwoohoo. Just out of curiosity, have you ever taken the time to read WP:NFCC, WP:IUP, WP:NFC, and WP:IG before mass uploading non-free TV screenshots and logos? Judging by the creation of your 5th RfA, you very much want to become an administrator. Whether you choose to work in media copyright areas or not, you should at least know these basic media file policies and guidelines. Sorry about the templated mess above, but I believe you have a right to know which images I have tagged as problematic. Regards, FASTILY_sock^(TALK) 05:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

RFA

I asked you a follow up question at RFA but I've just removed it. I don't want to put it in such a high profile place. Your answer was thoughtful. In real life, admin A was not nasty but didn't really fix the situation. The admin said he probably wouldn't have done all the steps but defended his decision. I am not very interested in the article so I am not going to try to get the decision reversed. However, I think it would be good if there were a quick and informal neutral resolution in place. ArbCom is certainly not the answer as they are only for huge crimes against wikipedia. DRV could reverse the decision but doesn't do anything to ask the admin not to do it in the future. Good luck in the RFA. Looks bad (numbers) but you never know. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

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BBC News

Hi, just to let you know, I'll be reviewing BBC News for GA status. It hasn't been waiting very long but I was bored and browsing GAN. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to hassle you, but I was just wondering when you were going to return to BBC News- there's been some good progress so far and I'm happy to leave the review open as long as improvements are being made, but there's quite a bit of work that needs to be done. Let me know if you need me. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Would you mind giving me a week to get the work done? Hopefully by then it will be in a better state to be reviewed again. Thanks again for your help with this. Cloudbound (talk) 20:46, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. You're more than welcome to poke me on my talk page and/or the review page if you need something or when you're ready for me to take another look! Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:00, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

• Hey, I'm sorry to pressure you, but I'm being chased about the lack of progress on the review. I can't pass the article as it currently is so, unless some serious work goes into it in the next 2 days, I'm afraid I'll be failing it. It dopesn;t have to be GA standard in 2 days, but I'd like to see some progress being made towards it. Sorry, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'd got a bit sidetracked. I'll have a look at it now and see what I can do. Thanks for reminding me. Cloudbound (talk) 20:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Veolia Water

Just went to do but it looks like someone beat me to it. something lame from CBW 09:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

French phonology

I understand you took this case but it was removed by someone else ( Mikemoral). He syas that the time gap is a problem. I have messaged him about this. Did you check the references and what is your take on this time gap?

Also, I'd like to know if there is any way the process can force an author to correct his article. It seems there isn't, which means Wikipeidia is not necessarily factual and is often inaccurate. And since anyone can edit someone else's article the encyc. is subject to vandalism and inaccuracies. As well, articles are anonymous, making them suspect or dubious, and it is difficult at best to know who the author is on the Discussion Page.--francofun12 15:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I did not see your repsnse in the case file nor on my talk page. Yes, I would like you to re-open the case.--francofun12 23:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Big Man on Hippocampus

Hello, I was wondering if you could help copyedit the article Big Man on Hippocampus. It is currently a GA candidate, and the reviewer has requested a copyedit, so any help would be appreciated as soon as possible. I've already added a formal request on the Guild requests page, but it has since been a couple of days, and I'd like to keep the review going. Gage (talk) 18:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

BBC News GAN

My apologies, but I've failed the GAN. Please don't consider it a reflection on yourself, but I just can't leave the review open an longer- I'm being chivvied by more important people and there are still a lot of outstanding issues, though In realise that a lot of work has gone in since the review started. As I said on the review page, I'd be happy to provide you with informal feedback on the talk page so you can focus your efforts towards another GAN in your own time and I can advise you on renomination when the issues are resolved- I might even be able to ask another reviewer to fast-track it. If you want to take the informal feedback offer up or you need anything else, don't hesitate to drop a note on my talk page. Don't be too disheartened. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

It's no trouble, I'm sorry I didn't have the time to work on it further. I'd like to take you up on the offer of further feedback, and thanks again for your help thus far. Cloudbound (talk) 18:12, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

A beer for you!

It seems you're retired, but I'm sorry I've replaced or removed many of your images. Nothing personal, I just noticed a few were out of date and worked from there. Colourlines (talk) 18:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

BBC balloon image

Why the replacement on Eilean Donan with St Michael's Mount ?

Eilean Donan is a much better image -- the predominant grey/blue makes a much better contrast with the colour of the balloon; and it doesn't have the triangualr jaggy artefacts of the St Michael's Mount pic.

I'm also not sure why you changed the version of the Computer Originated World; but given you have made this change, can you please transfer over the full detail of the use rationale from the old file page, rather than just the bare half line you've given the new one? Jheald (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

It seems to me that the balloon is actually less clear in the image you have updated, as there is much less contrast with its background. And the fuller rationale for the COW image is particularly relevant now, given the questions about fair use that not least you seem to think are of relevance on the pages where it is being used. Jheald (talk) 14:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)