Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Image:Potato and cross section.jpg

Potato and Cross Section

In a similar style to the capsicum picture, here is a photo of a potato and it's (rather plain) cross section. Again nice lighting and high enc value IMO

Support Self Nom. --Fir0002 22:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. Very good "product shot". Enc could be higher by specifying species, and the cut potato is somewhat bland in appearance because it's directly facing the camera. Would like to see some of the skin on that too. Somehow, the right potato looks "dirty" - could you perhaps find better samples? --Janke | Talk 23:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal taste of course, but I chose that "dirty" one because it looks more natural then one which has been washed and polished (contrary to what some people may think potatos come from underground not the shops ;-). It also has a much more interesting texture. --Fir0002 23:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder whether the cross-section would be more interesting with a potato which has gone somewhat more green? How encyclopedic that would be is debatable, since usually people don't eat them green, but it might make a better shot. Mak (talk) 02:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support I think that it is very encyclopedic and everything is great except that like stated above probably should make it so you can see some skin in the cut into potato.--¿Why 1 9 9 1 ^{ESP. | Sign Here} 03:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
~~Provisory~~ support I think the full potato is quite spectacular. How much Photoshopping went into the shades? It seems a bit like the right one is floating.~ trialsanderrors 08:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I assure you that there was no shadow photoshopping in this image. That's how it turned out (similar setup to the capsicum image with white paper, ambient and shoe flash). What is the provision of your support? --Fir0002 09:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only your response to this. I'm not an opponent of nuanced photoshopping, but I would always like to see the original for comparison. ~ trialsanderrors 10:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I think the cross-section is fine, since we get enough skin on the other one. If it were a low-rez image, more contrast would be needed for the cross-section, but in this case it shows up fine, IMO. Caption should specify the type of potato - looks like the cheap ones I buy, (Russet?) Very encyclopedic.Bobanny 22:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice image, and encyclopedic, cross-section shows up fine. Hello32020 00:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fir, your product shots are always great (although the capsicum looked a little evil). I would much prefer an unwashed potato to a washed one, as washed ones remove much of the skin. As stated before, species and cultivar are needed for the caption, I will have a look around. Thanks. --liquidGhoul 00:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Rather staid and boring shot of (to be honest) a boring subject. Is this photo really the best of the best?? Madman 05:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
weak oppose - better angle on the cut potatoe would much improve it. And with the common-ness of the subject, a redo is feasible. Debivort 09:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Ok, nice product shot. Just like the bell pepper, but will this lead to your whole kitchen inventory ending up on this page sliced in half over the next few weeks? --Dschwen 11:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know - that's all I've done if that's what you are asking. Do you think it would benefit Wikipedia if I took more? --Fir0002 22:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Fir, it would benefit Wikipedia. And I'm glad that we found a standard setup for shots like this. But thats exactly the point. I'm not sure it would benefit FPC to have your kitchen inventory posted. These shots are the necessary standard to depict a fruit. Anything less is unacceptable. So, while being encyclopedically great pictures I don't see them lacking in the stunningness department. Of course, if you nominating each pic here is the condition for taking those pictures, well knock yourself out. I'll just ignore them then. --Dschwen 07:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you discouraging Fir to take more shots? It is great to have these photos on Wiki, and have a standard for how vegetable/fruit shots should be taken. --liquidGhoul 23:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhrrrgghhhhhh, for the love of god! We've been through this. I'm not discouraging anyone to take more shots. What's so difficult in keeping the two things apart from each other, taking and contributing shots and posting them on FPC. With your logic we should nominate every picture and delete each one that doesn't pass FPC. Now that doesn't make any sense, right? Why? Because pictures can be wanted, valid, and usefull contributions without being featured. --Dschwen 07:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I read your sentence wrong (missed "on this page"). I completely agree with what you have said above. I have contributed heaps of photos, and am trawling the net for people who can contribute Aussie frog photos, just to improve the encyclopaedia. Featured pictures are a bonus, and only worth it if you can put up with all the crap, and I have not found it worthwhile of late. --liquidGhoul 13:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore away, these are excellent enc pics that definately deserve FP. I'd like to see a half-opened banana next, or a closeup of a stick of cinnamon! --⁪froth^{T C} 05:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support Very nice image, I like how you didn't clean the potato so that it would be more natural. (not to mention the yum factor :D) — Arjun 15:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, add little encyclopedic value mostly because the subject has so few interesting features; however other problems include that they variety is unknown and the dirt is covering the features of the skin. If you're looking for something that would be a useful illustration for the potato article, maybe try recreating this basic science experiment since it illustrates something interesting and encyclopedic about the make-up of the potato.--Peta 01:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Good but not special. Also I don't like different sizes of the two parts. Olegivvit 13:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support, could be better but this image is still really good. Yuser31415 05:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional. The sliced potato is about the same for me as the water drops on the capsicum picture. I would really like to see a sliver of skin on the sliced potato, just to give it some more form, but it's still good as-is. So for now, I oppose to promote a reshoot, but will support if some of the above comments are addressed. --Tewy 05:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but Mum/Dad(?) bought those potatoes in a big sack, and the only remaining ones are in not optimum form (unsuitable for photography due to blemishes/wrinkling). I live in a small town, and the only potatoes availble at the general store are polished and washed (which I consider a bad feature for this scene). Next time I'll get some more of these potatoes would be in two or three weeks. So I could try with the washed potatoes, or you'd have to wait two/three weeks. But overall - is it worth the sweat? I mean personally as far as visible skin is concerned I can take it or leave it. --Fir0002 09:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well in that case, I'll support this image. And if you come across more in the future, it would be nice to see another nomination. :-) --Tewy 21:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment. For what it's worth, which may be something given a few people have commented on this, I'm pretty sure this is a Sebago Potato (can find no article on this on Wikipedia). --jjron 09:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted . Close, but I'm not totally sure I can call this consensus. Raven4x4x 06:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]