Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shi'a Islam/Shi'a view

Justification

To have the shia view accurately represented, they need to be present in detail. Of course, the Shi'a view of the major Sahaba is so strongly different from the Sunni version, that it would dominate the article if it would be put in it, neccesitating a break out article.

This is of course in agreement with Wikipedia policies: WP:NPOV:

We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held by a small minority deserved as much attention as a majority view, and views that are held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views. To give undue weight to a significant-minority view, or to include a tiny-minority view, might be misleading as to the shape of the dispute. Wikipedia aims to present competing views in proportion to their representation among experts on the subject, or among the concerned parties.

None of this is to say that tiny-minority views cannot receive as much attention as we can give them on pages specifically devoted to them.

And also WP:POVFORK

Sometimes, when an article gets long, a section of the article is made into its own article, and the handling of the subject in the main article is condensed to a brief summary. This is completely normal Wikipedia procedure; the new article is sometimes called a "spinout" or "spinoff" of the main article, see for example wikipedia:summary style, which explains the technique.

Even if the subject of the new article is controversial, this does not automatically make the new article a POV fork. Provided that all POVs are represented fairly in the new article, it is perfectly legitimate to isolate a controversial aspect as much as possible to its own article, in order to keep editing of the main article fairly harmonious.

Summary style articles, with sub-articles giving greater detail, are not content forking, provided that all the sub-articles, and the summary conform to Neutral Point of View.

Examples

For practical examples, see the articles in Category:Views and the over 20 000 other articles that set precedence. --Striver 14:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles

Shi'a view of Ali

Just created it to please Zora. --Striver 13:56, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shi'a view of Umar

I Just made a major review on Shia view of Umar ibn al-Khattab and would appreciate if somebody volunteered to copyedit it. --Striver 09:28, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Made another major revision on on Shia view of Umar ibn al-Khattab, need help with cleanup. --Striver 02:42, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shia view of Abu Bakr

Newly created --Striver 01:02, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shia view of Uthman ibn Affan

needs help --Striver 01:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shia view of the election of Uthman

Just created it, it need to present the arguments the shia present for concluding that the election was riged. --Striver 15:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shi'a view of the Sahaba

Shia view of the Sahaba has beed edited to exclude all my precious text :(

Dont have time to fix it. --Striver 02:45, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shia view of Sahih Bukhari

Obviosly, it needs to be created.--Striver 16:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shia view of Saqifah

About Saqifah, needs to be created.--Striver 16:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

created and afd'd: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shi'a view of the meeting at Saqifah. --Striver 11:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shia view of Fatimah

There is already a lot of information regarding here added to the main article, Fatimah Zahra. It is definitly given udue weight, the Shi'a view is totaly dominating the main article, but since nobody is objecting, it is still there. I will create a redirect, untill somebody gets there and starts raising the legitimate issue of the Shi'a view geting undue weight in the article. --Striver 15:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shi'a view of Abu Huraira

I had created it some time ago, but it got deleted. Funny enough, the Sunni view was keept: Sunni view of Abu Huraira. --Striver 15:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

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Need: The article's priority or importance, regardless of its quality

Top	Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopaedia
High	Subject contributes a depth of knowledge
Mid	Subject fills in more minor details
Low	Subject is mainly of specialist interest.

List

This is a list of articles that might be of interest for the objectives of this project.

Quality = {{FA-Class}}, {{A-Class}}, {{GA-Class}}, {{B-Class}}, {{Start-Class}}, {{Stub-Class}}, {{Needed-Class}}
Importance = {{Top-Class}}, {{High-Class}}, {{Mid-Class}}, {{Low-Class}}
Issues = "NPOV", "V", "RS", "XP"

{{WikiProject Shi'a Islam}} is added to the top of the talk pages of the article relevant to this project. This will make them appear on the Category:WikiProject Shi'a Islam.

Biographical Class

Quality	Importance	Issues	Article name	Description, why this is of interest for this project
Top	Start	afd 1	Shi'a view of Ali
Top	B	afd 1 afd 2	Shi'a view of Umar
Top	B	afd	Shia view of Abu Bakr
Top	Start	speedy	Shia view of Uthman ibn Affan
Top	B	afd 1, afd 2, afd 3	Shi'a view of the Sahaba
Top	B	Afd 1	Shi'a view of Hasan ibn Ali
Top	B	Needs to be split out, is geting undue weight.	Shia view of Fatimah
High	B	afd 1	Shi'a view of Muawiyah I
Mid	B	afd 1	Shi'a view of Abu Huraira
Top	B		Shi'a view of Fatimah

Historical Class

Importance	Quality	Issues	Article name	Description, why this is of interest for this project
Top	B	afd 1	Shia view of Saqifah	Important historical event.
Top	B	afd 1	Shia view of the election of Uthman	Important historical event.

Theologocial Class

Importance	Quality	Issues	Article name	Description, why this is of interest for this project
Top	Start		Shi'a view of the Qur'an