Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sobo 1909 260
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- Reason
- A high quality scan of the 20th century book Sobotta's Atlas and Text-book of Human Anatomy, showing various muscles of the face with high quality captions.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Face, Levator anguli oris, Nasalis muscle
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
- Creator
- CFCF
- Support as nominator --CFCF (talk) 08:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: The image ought to be rotated slightly so the text is all level with the edges of the image. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 23:45, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- Upon further inspection in image editing software, I find that the text in the whitespace droops to the left, and the text on the muscles (not including those that stick to the angle of the muscle) tend to droop to the right. I do not know if it is intentional, but the whitespace text makes the whole image look off to me. Also, a closer inspection of the text, shows that the quaily needs to be improved. The text on the far left is bolder and thicker than that on the right. At first I thought this was intentional, but as you can see the "e" in the words "Lig. palepebrale" is half bold, and half not. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 23:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments, I've followed your suggestions, please respond whether the result is preferable or not. It is quite difficult to judge things such as rotation on your own images, as certain parts became more angled such as the Frontalis text but I tried to make the main text properly aligned. CFCF (talk) 07:28, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of doing my own edit. Rotated the head 1° CCW and the rest of the text 1.5° CW, desaturated the text, corrected the font weight issues, cleaned the background (which was pretty messy, actually) and re-centered the image. Hope you don't mind. Feel free to revert. Lovely image. Regards, nagualdesign (talk) 07:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- With all of the changes, I give it a Support. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 18:55, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of doing my own edit. Rotated the head 1° CCW and the rest of the text 1.5° CW, desaturated the text, corrected the font weight issues, cleaned the background (which was pretty messy, actually) and re-centered the image. Hope you don't mind. Feel free to revert. Lovely image. Regards, nagualdesign (talk) 07:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments, I've followed your suggestions, please respond whether the result is preferable or not. It is quite difficult to judge things such as rotation on your own images, as certain parts became more angled such as the Frontalis text but I tried to make the main text properly aligned. CFCF (talk) 07:28, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support-- it's a nice image. A few comments like can we use more recent anatomic terminology for the annotations, perhaps taking the text off the drawing and having them as floating labels in the white surround. Also, the title: superficial muscles of the face... we are showing a mixture of muscles of facial expression and muscles of mastication. Suggest "Superficial muscles of the head and neck" ? Lesion (talk) 21:23, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- I would not go so far as changing the actual content, as this image is a reproduction of a page of Sobotta's Atlas and Text-book of Human Anatomy from 1909. The image is a historical piece because it shows what the leading knowledge of the facial muscles of over 100 years ago. But, that's just my opinion. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:31, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- Oh... I guess anatomy doesn't change very fast. Lesion (talk) 21:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- I would not go so far as changing the actual content, as this image is a reproduction of a page of Sobotta's Atlas and Text-book of Human Anatomy from 1909. The image is a historical piece because it shows what the leading knowledge of the facial muscles of over 100 years ago. But, that's just my opinion. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:31, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support. A high-quality image. --LT910001 (talk) 05:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support. Seems on par with other WP:MED-related FA-quality images Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 22:28, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support It is a high quality image. That aside, since it is over 100 years old it is an example of quality illustration from another time period, and even now, it is a useful anatomical illustration for today. If there is a problem with the text then I think it should not be altered because it is representative of the state of the art for the early 1900s. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:07, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support High-quality anatomy image. I checked images which treat similar subject (i.e. face muscles) at commons:Category:Face and neck muscles. There were many images there. But I felt the Sobotta's image was the best one, from its very realistic style. --Was a bee (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Promoted File:Sobo 1909 260.png --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:52, 19 December 2013 (UTC)