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This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.

To create a new nomination or to see those that are yet to be approved, see Template talk:Did you know. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Click on the link to go directly to the Special occasion holding area.

  If some of the nominations are not showing up properly at the bottom of the page, these alternative pages can be used to view a subset of the most recent nominations.
Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
August 20 1 1
August 25 2
August 27 1
August 28 1 1
August 29 1 1
August 30 3 2
August 31 2 2
September 2 1 1
September 3 2 1
September 4 1
September 5 2 1
September 6 1 1
September 7 2
September 8 2
September 9 5 3
September 11 2
September 12 4
September 13 1
September 15 5 3
September 16 2
September 18 3 2
September 19 3 1
September 20 8 3
September 21 3 2
September 22 4 2
September 23 6 3
September 24 5
September 25 2
September 26 4 2
September 27 6 4
September 28 5 3
September 29 2 1
September 30 5 2
October 1 3
October 2 4 1
October 3 8 5
October 4 8 3
October 5 6 2
October 6 7 4
October 7 9 6
October 8 7 5
October 9 14 9
October 10 10 3
October 11 11 6
October 12 7 5
October 13 12 4
October 14 5 4
October 15 10 3
October 16 9 4
October 17 8 2
October 18 10 2
October 19 12 9
October 20 6 2
October 21 2
October 22 8
October 23 6
October 24 5
October 25 7
October 26 7
October 27
Total 298 121
Last updated 10:58, 27 October 2024 UTC
Current time is 17:50, 27 October 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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This page is for those nominations that have already been approved and are waiting to be promoted. If yours has been approved but has not yet been run on the main page, it should either be on this page or will soon be moved here, or already promoted to a Prep area or Queue ahead of an appearance on the main page.

If you wish to create a new nomination, please go to the Template talk:Did you know page; there are instructions there in a section similar to this one on how to nominate an article for DYK.

Frequently asked questions

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Backlogged?

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This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until someone promotes it to a preparation area. To alleviate this problem, if the approved page has more than 120 approved hooks, then sets will change twice per day (every 12 hours) instead of once per day (every 24 hours). When the backlog falls below 60 approved nominations set frequency returns to once a day.

Where is my hook?

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If you can't find the nomination you submitted to the nominations page, and it also isn't on this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is either in one of the prep areas, has been promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for other editors

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How to promote an accepted hook

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  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted original hook to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to the nominations page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from the nominations page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

Nominations

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Special occasion holding area

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Shortcut
Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [1]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [2].
April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.

November 5

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November 7 (after US election polls close)

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Allison Reese

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  • ... that Allison Reese has been called "better at Kamala than Kamala is"? Source: Holtermann, Callie (2024-07-22). "A Kamala Harris Impersonator Is Ready for Her Moment". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2024-08-04. "You're better at Kamala than Kamala is," a commenter wrote on one of her videos.
Moved to mainspace by Bsoyka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - If ALT1 is approved, then reference [1] needs to be repeated directly after the sentence "Soon after this, at the age of 22, she came out as a lesbian through a group text message to her parents, who were both supportive of her sexuality." This is necessary per WP:DYKHFC, which says "The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear."
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Bsoyka Nice work on this article. I think ALT0 is the most interesting as well, but ALT1 might also work. I'm not sure about ALT2, since many influencers get millions of views for whatever it is that they're known for. Epicgenius (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bsoyka, Epicgenius, and Kimikel: Just noting that I have pulled this from prep 1 as there is already a Kamala hook in queue 7 and there's another in a later prep. I have not in any way assessed the article.--Launchballer 14:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pulled per WT:DYK#Allison Reese and WP:DYKELECT. Not the nom's fault, and so this shouldn't be timed out. I've moved it to SOHA.--Launchballer 22:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs

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Moved to mainspace by Bobby Cohn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

November 11 (Remembrance Day)

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Jacques Lewis

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  • Source: "Believed to be the last surviving Frenchman to wade ashore with Americans, he was attached to an Army unit that stormed Utah Beach and helped drive Germans out of France."
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 139 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 16:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC). Review[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The NYT source does not support the hook as written because it only covers the US landings but there were British and Canadian beaches on D-Day too. A claim of first/last is a flag Redflag and so needs excellent verification.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - "Believed" is a weasel word and/or expression of doubt. If this is a definite fact, as it should be, then we should state it as such without such tentative language.

QPQ: No - Not provided yet. done Note current discussions about limiting nominations on credit like this.
Overall: I'm not sure of the formal status of translations but this review template asks Is the article free of material copied from other sources? and it isn't. The article seemed to need some copy-editing and so further work of that kind may soften the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review. Will fix up shortly. Thriley (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that Jacques Lewis, a 105 year old French veteran of D-Day, insisted that he participate in a ceremony commemorating the invasion's 80th anniversary? Thriley (talk) 20:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson: Have your concerns been addressed, and does this hook work? If not, what else needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 14:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The QPQ has been done and the ALT1 hook seems ok. I raised the issue of translation at WT:DYK but, iirc, most responders didn't seem to be bothered about this.
Looking at the article, I notice that the lead is too short, being just one sentence, and there's just a generic section title of "Biography" which isn't helpful to the reader. So, some copy-editing still seems needed. I'll keep a tab open and make a pass through it myself to see if that helps or turns up any issues. More anon...
Andrew🐉(talk) 14:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding "believed", the is what the New York Times states. It is extremely unlikely there are any other living French vets of the American landings on D-Day. I'll change it to "was" if there are no objections. Thriley (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: I have changed it to "believed to be" Thriley (talk) 20:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Approved nominations

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Articles created/expanded on August 20

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Second Adrian Hasler cabinet

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Created by TheBritinator (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

TheBritinator (talk) 23:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough and long enough. QPQ present. AGF on German-language sourcing. Reasonably exciting hook for the subject. Suggestions for promoter: add "of Liechtenstein" after "cabinet" in the hook to provide a geographic clue to readers. Also skeptical if "second" needs to be capitalized in running text. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Make any minor changes as nessesary. TheBritinator (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheBritinator and Sammi Brie: per WP:DYKHOOKBLP we should avoid unduly focusing on negative aspects of living persons in hooks. I have never been entirely certain what "unduly" means, but I think this falls on the wrong side of the line. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: we could change it to alleged embezzlement scandal or something like that if that would be more suitable. She hasn't been convicted of anything yet, but nevertheless it is a fact she was expelled from government for it. TheBritinator (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not the point: we try not to focus on negative aspects of living people at DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then I'm not sure what the point is, it is not like I am making defamatory claims. Would you be able to suggest any alternatives? TheBritinator (talk) 11:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
TheBritinator, the point of BLPDYK is that DYK boils down everything about a subject to a single hooky little phrase. For a BLP subject, this removes everything else about the subject's life and achievements and reduces them to a factoid on the front page one of the most popular places on the internet. If that factoid is negative, it could potentially have reputational effects, and we have a duty to err on the side of caution when it comes to posting things that could affect a living person's actual life. BLPDYK explicitly takes a stricter line than raw BLP does for this reason. Since the bold article is the cabinet and not the politician, I think you could reasonably get away with a hook about the scandal if you didn't name Frick directly. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Premeditated Chaos: So how about something like ... that a member of the Second Adrian Hasler cabinet was expelled in 2019, due to an embezzlement scandal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBritinator (talk • contribs) 21:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I think that would work. AirshipJungleman29, since you were the original objector, any comments? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just about reasonable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PMC, AirshipJungleman29, this nomination has about a day before it hits the two month mark. Is it ready to be approved or are there still issues? Just about reasonable seems unenthusiastic to me, yet we've lost two crucial weeks if something better was needed. Thanks for taking another look. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, nothing further from me, I said I think it would work. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 28

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El Eternauta: tercera parte

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Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 125 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Just a moment, please. Looking over the changes now... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for everybody's patience. The lead has been improved. No problems with the plot! The ALT still needs to be tweaked. Again, he was, in all likelihood, dead by the time the comic was published. However, he seems never to have been officially declared dead, only presumed dead. It seems like splitting hairs, but it's the kind of thing other editors may potentially bring up once the hook goes live. So best to address it now by modifying the ALT with the qualifier "probably". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 29

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List of oral repositories

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    • Reviewed:
Created by Kowal2701 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kowal2701 (talk) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • ALT1 that in indigenous societies people serve as oral repositories of knowledge, values, and morals, and have been termed "walking libraries"? [10]
  • ALT2 that in oral cultures people serve as repositories of knowledge, values, and morals, and have been termed "walking libraries"?
  • Draft published on 30 August, so this was nominated within required time. Hooks are fine (I think ALT0 is the best). But the problem is that much of the article is unreferenced. While only one sentence of prose needs a citation, half if not more entries in the tables do not have citations. I am also confused why for some rows, the citations are in different columns. Ex. Most entries in 'term' have references, but occasionally entries in others have referneces too. This is messy, and I'd suggest adding a new column 'sources' or such and moving references there, IF they are supporting all claims in the row. But there are cleary some rows with no citations (ex. Sangoma). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, good idea, I’ll create a new column. I thought you wouldn’t need a citation for articles on Wikipedia since that makes them non-contestable, but that is just WP:Circular.Kowal2701 (talk) 14:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus is that okay now?
Yes, it is GTG now, I am assuming that refs for each column are sufficient to confirm the rest of the information in it per AGF. Spot checks can be done if this ever goes up for WP:GAN (which I do encourage you as the next step). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 30

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Edmonds Band Rotunda

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Edmonds Band Rotunda
Edmonds Band Rotunda
Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 07:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A bit uninteresting, but looks good. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 14:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice article, I found the fact it was a restaurant to be quite interesting/unique, heritage buildings often get rebuilt but a rotunda serving as a restaurant paints quite an interesting thought in my mind. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seconding Traumnovelle, my only comment is that the hook is a bit boring. I think a more interesting one might be something like ...that the small basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda was once used as a kitchen?. And thank you for including my photo! David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 20:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that your hook is better, Cloventt. I'll write it out for the next reviewer. ALT1:
"... that the small basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda (pictured) was once used as a kitchen?" Source: https://canterburystories.nz/exhibitions/places-christchurch-band-rotundas/thomas-edmonds-band-rotunda ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the review, Narutolovehinata5. I've added a citation to the end of the sentence supporting the hook, and have done some copyedits on the article. Here is ALT2, without the "small":
"... that the basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda (pictured) was once used as a kitchen?"
Cheers ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, this should be good to go. Given the original reviewer's topic ban I did a second check of the article, as well as a check of the QPQ. @Panamitsu: I have to note that with your provided QPQ, you neglected to mention that nomination's QPQ in the review, but given that was the only thing missing and the article was still checked otherwise, I'll let it slide, with a reminder to mention a QPQ's need or if it was done in future reviewers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mitch Torres

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* ... that writer, director, and first Indigenous Australian on-air presenter for SBS Television Mitch Torres is a "self-proclaimed damper destroyer"?

"We chat to self-proclaimed damper destroyer Mitch (pictured, right) about family cooking rivalries, top-secret ingredients and living off the land." Hegarty, Siobhan (29 January 2015). "18 minutes with Mitch Torres". SBS Food. Special Broadcasting Service. Retrieved 30 August 2024.
Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

Ornithoptera (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Oh, "Minister of White Affairs" got a good belly laugh out of me! New enough and long enough. Earwig gives 47%, but everything is the name of an award, so it looks okay. Hook fact for ALT1 checks out. ALT0, however... given the history of "first" statements on the main page, I'm not sure if the sourcing is solid enough. Two of the four references for her being the first indigenous presenter are film festivals, where participants often provide their own biodata. The other two are a bit more solid, but at the same time a "first" claim gives me pause. ALT1 should be okay, but ALT0 will need further discussion if you'd rather use it.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Crisco 1492! Thank you for taking the time to look through the article! Apologies for the late response, I've had a busy week. I feel like the Australian Film Television and Radio School is a reliable secondary source, but it's hard to verify outside of that. If that does not pass in order to include in the hook, we can workshop an alternative that is without Torres' biographical details and skips straight to the "self proclaimed damper destroyer" quote? Ornithoptera (talk) 02:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting back to me, per your suggestion, I will provide the following alternative hook:
A bit of a simplified version of ALT0, but it's simple and gets to the point. Frankly, Babakiueria's plot is very hook-y so there is a bit of a preference for ALT1 at the end of the day for the DYK admins. Torres has a very long career, and I'm very thankful you took the time to go through the article Crisco 1492! Cheers! Ornithoptera (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 31

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Anaïs Gallagher, Oasis Live '25 Tour, Filthy Lucre Tour

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Created by Launchballer (talk), Aibo22 (talk), and TheBestEditorInEngland (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 248 past nominations.

Launchballer 15:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Launchballer: Since this is a double nomination, you will need to provide an additional QPQ. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have. That's a double nom.--Launchballer 05:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for not noticing! Just make it clear in the nomination so that a reviewer will be aware. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A reviewer should check before ticking it off, but I've added a note anyway. As for adding an additional QPQ, there's probably just enough room for "that after Liam and Noel Gallagher's band Oasis announced for 2025 "the most controversial band reunion since the Sex Pistols' 1996 Filthy Lucre Tour", Noel's daughter Anaïs Gallagher criticised some fans for ageism and sexism?", so you might get lucky. I should probably write the third article first though.--Launchballer 08:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I have just published Filthy Lucre Tour and would like to nominate it using the QPQ Abortion in Senegal, which I reviewed as part of the triple nom Abortion in Africa. I was wondering if you objected to me swapping out the double I've provided for this with that triple?--Launchballer 02:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As long as the Abortion in Africa QPQ is already a complete review and you plan on reusing the current QPQ in a future nomination, it shouldn't be an issue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've covered everything in that review, so I've adjusted this nomination. For what it's worth, I'm planning on swapping the double nom for the two singles at The Cock Destroyers and using those on future noms for Talk Talk (Charli XCX song) and Have I Got News For You (US).--Launchballer 02:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Managed to score tickets to this... here's hoping there's no cancellations! I'm seeing a big red flag with Earwig for Anais; 96.7% possibility of copying. This maybe be a backwards copy, but that should be marked on the talk page. For the Tour, there's a 46% chance, but that's due to quotes that are properly attributed. Filthy lucre has similar results. Everything else looks good for all three articles.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the Anais backwards copy to the talk page. What else do I need to do?--Launchballer 20:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Cock Destroyers

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Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

Launchballer 17:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Both articles are new enough and long enough (Slag Wars doesn't register as 5x by the DYK tool, but comparing the pre-expansion version it is 7x). All of the hooks are cited and meet DYKINT, though my personal preference is ALT2 (ALT0 focuses on a third party, ALT1 relies on knowledge of Healy, and ALT3 is "people get famous, are featured on BBC"). Images both appear free, being extracted from free videos. No close paraphrasing found - Earwig flags one source at 53%, but that's because of the large block quote. Looks good to go!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! The reason Slag Wars doesn't register as 5x is because DYKcheck picks up stuff from this version, which picks up around 563 false positive characters from an unformatted list.--Launchballer 22:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 2

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Pan He

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Zhuhai Fisher Girl
Zhuhai Fisher Girl
  • ... that the Chinese sculptor Pan He used his Reunion to commemorate both the handover of Macau and his return to his beloved cousin?
  • Source: Jiang, Xinchen (November 26, 2020). "潘鹤：渔女之父的珠海情缘" [Pan He: The Father of the Fisherwoman and His Love for Zhuhai]. Southcn.com (in Chinese). China South Publishing & MediaGroup. Archived from the original on September 1, 2024. Retrieved September 1, 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 677 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Apologies, I should have said "not a review (and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon)". (Not sure why I forgot, I say that literally every other time.)--Launchballer 01:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed for both articles.--Launchballer 01:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Both articles are well-written and well-sourced. Spotchecked the Chinese sources and they all appear to be fine. Earwig shows that the articles are copyvio free. Good to go with ALT1, which includes both articles in the hook, as requested by the nominator. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 3

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The Nualas

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Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.

Bogger (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, is neutral and plagiarism free. The hooks are cited, but as with Bremps I think there are more interesting things than the line-up changing (if you think about the Sugababes it's not unusual). I wonder about a hook about the song supporting gay marriage. I put a ? for well sourced, as I was surprised the reception section was so short - I would like to see this expanded, especially since the article is only just over the character count, perhaps these might help, see here & here. QPQ is done. I struck the earlier ALTs, so per the above comment. I appreciate you've been waiting a while Bogger! Lajmmoore (talk) 11:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

-Bogger (talk) 11:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 5

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Come In (Weatherday album)

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  • ... that several characters from a webcomic Weatherday wrote appear in their album Come In?
  • Source: [11] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life. The character Agatha is from that comic and same with Oswald and Ines."
  • ALT1: ... that after the original run sold out, vinyl copies of Come In were put up for sale on Discogs for as much as $100? Source: [12] "Last year, U.S. indie label Topshelf, a crucial fourth-wave emo outlet, dropped a double-LP reissue of Come In, and the whole run of 2,000 sold out—if you want a pristine copy, be prepared to pony up $100 on Discogs."
  • ALT2: ... that Come In was recorded on a hands-free microphone attached to a pair of headphones? Source: [13] "I used the headphone mic because I didn’t have a better one and thought I could do without one."
    Album liner notes (viewable on Bandcamp) "Honorable mention to the hands-free mic attached to my headphones which I recorded this album on"
  • ALT3: ... that Come In was inspired by a webcomic that Weatherday wrote? Source: [14] "Mio is a character from a webcomic I made back in 2016-2017 [...] I used Mio on the album cover cause I drew inspiration from the webcomic when I was making the album"
    [15] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life."
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I created the page in the draftspace and OhHaiMark moved it into the mainspace. This is my first DYK nomination and first time building up an article, please let me know if I did anything wrong!
Moved to mainspace by OhHaiMark (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

LeMeilleurMiel (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I guess. Full review needed.--Launchballer 23:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall:  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 6

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1917 Łódź City Council election

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Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
  • ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
  • Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 396 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: No - The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
  • Used in article: Yes
  • Clear at 100px: No - all you can see is a number 5
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about ALT3 - "... that the class-based curiae system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)?[reply]
@Buidhe: Please address the above.--Launchballer 11:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: For me, the hook is dependent on knowing what a curiae system is and I don't, so I'd question whether a broad audience would.--Launchballer 21:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 - "... that the electoral system imposed by the German occupation authorities for the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 09:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, with the caveat that I can't read a word of the source. If you're happy with the very slightly trimmed ALT4a: "... that the electoral system imposed by the German occupation authorities for the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured) disproportionately favoured some Jewish parties?" I'll go ahead and approve this.--Launchballer 10:28, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4a ok with me. --Soman (talk) 10:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's roll.--Launchballer 10:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 9

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Middlesex Regiment alien labour units

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  • Source: Although all eight were described as "Alien" companies, the originals were formed from the sons of foreign nationals, however from 1918 actual foreign nationals were used to form three companies , see eg: "the Director of Labour in France was informed that all Russians and other aliens whom 'it was not desirable to retain with fighting units' were to be sent to the Middlesex Regiment base depot at Etaples. Apart from the Russians, they were to be posted to the Middlesex Infantry Labour Companies ... This enabled three more Middlesex Labour companies to be formed." from: Messenger, Charles (30 April 2015). Call to Arms: The British Army 1914-18. Orion. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-78022-759-7.
Created by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 875 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I certainly think Alt 2 is more interesting as a hook, bot both are brilliant. What a fascinating read! No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David de Pomis

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Andre🚐 01:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough and long enough. Hook and source checks. QPQ checks. I have some concerns about prose for general audience readers:
  • "his father lost his fortune in the wars." - what wars?
  • "Legend has it his family" - this is a bit vague and I'm not sure about the tone either. The wording in one of the sources (According to an ancient tradition of the Jews of Italy...) is much, much better. Can you reword to something similar (or maybe even place that in quotes if you have to)?
  • "Pope Paul IV's bull prevented" - what is a "bull" in this context? Can you clarify, or give an appropriate Wikilink?
@Andrevan: Happy to pass once these minor issues are addressed. Damien Linnane (talk) 23:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. Looks like you figured out about the papal bull. I've performed the requested clarification and copyedits. One thing is that one of the sources refers to the recurring wars in Italy, presumably the Italian Wars in the Papal States, while the other sources relay the story about fleeing the Sack of Rome (1527), which was during one specific war. Since I'm not entirely sure if there are any other recurring wars that affected Pomis' father other than the incident we know about, after all, someone could lose a fortune over several events, I've changed it to just talk about the Sack of Rome unless I can find another source that talks about any wars, plural other than that which affected him. Hope that works! Let me know if you have anything else. Andre🚐 00:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, since I already discuss the Sack in the next sentence down, I'm going to just leave that 2nd part and make it just in the Italian Wars. Since it says his father lost his fortune in his youth, it must be talking about 2 different series of events. Andre🚐 02:01, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your prompt responses. The changes look good. This is ready to go. :) Damien Linnane (talk) 02:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Funnyback

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1928 Funnyback
1928 Funnyback
  • ... that people referred to the 1928 US$1 silver certificate as a Funnyback (pictured)?
Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 154 past nominations.

Bruxton (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced and neutral. Earwig picks up some links, but these are quotations, so it's copy vio free. Hooks are cited and interesting. I prefer ALT0 and ALT3. Pic is free, used and clear. QPQ is done. All good. Lajmmoore (talk) 08:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 15

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Od Warszawy do Ojcowa

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  • ... that the Polish adventure and travel novel for the youth, From Warsaw to Ojców, was "highly regarded novel in its time", and inspired another novel by another writer half a decade later? Source: see Makuch (2013), Kuliczkowska (1959, 1973) as cited in the article
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: QPQ pending.
Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 522 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Date and length ok. Article nominated by Piotrus, created by Oliwiasocz. QPQ done. File:Od Warszawy do Ojcowa.png is available free on Commons. The hook conflates decade and century, presumably it refers to Wycieczka do Sandomierza from 1953. Some sentences like "In 1983, Jarosław Iwaszkiewicz wrote positively about..." and the sentence about Gruszecka's criticism would need some editing (I don't how Gruszecka thinks a 1897 novel would have covered WWI?). I would also suggest perhaps thinking of ALT hook highlighting that the book is inspired by Verne but adapted to Polish context. --Soman (talk) 17:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: Gruszecka sentence was c/e-ed, I guess the translator did not understand the Polish text as intended. Not sure what is unclear about Iwaszkiewicz? Here is ALTOa and ALT1 for your consideration. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT0a: ... that the 1897 Polish adventure and travel novel for the youth, From Warsaw to Ojców, was "highly regarded novel in its time", and inspired another novel by another writer half a decade later?
  • ALT1: ... that the 1897 Polish adventure and travel novel for the youth, From Warsaw to Ojców, was inspired by works of Jules Verne, but reflects Polish patriotic and educational values?

Marie Marcks

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Marie Marcks in 2006
Marie Marcks in 2006
  • ... that Marie Marcks (pictured) was called "the Grande Dame of political cartoons in Germany"?
Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

Munfarid1 (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was nominated on time and is long enough. The article isn't perfect but is in decent condition. Earwig found a lot of close phrasing which I think could be reduced quite easily. Hooks are cited and interesting, ALT 1 needs to make clear that it is an opinion. Llewee (talk) 11:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ok, I have added the person whose opinion is quoted in ALT 1, if this is what you mean. Also, I have rewritten the close paraphrases as far as possible. Several proper names highlighted by Earwig, however, such as Deutsches Museum für Karikatur und Zeichenkunst, Mark Twain Center for Transatlantic Relations or New Frankfurt School can not be counted as copyright infringement, as far as I know. The overall score in Earwig now is 11,5% with most of the identical words being such proper names. Thanks for your review, and I hope this makes it gtg. Munfarid1 (talk) 14:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Hello Llewee, sorry, the necessary change of ALT 1 was my fault. Just corrected it and restored ALT. Munfarid1 (talk) 15:06, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences

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The "neuron screen" at the Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences
The "neuron screen" at the Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences
  • Source: Overlaid with gleaming 21st-century filigree, this esthetic delight hints at pattern and order, embedded in randomness. “They are Henry Markram’s neurons – or rather, from his rat brains,” explains Segev, “and we at ELSC had the idea of this neuron trellis wrapping round the building.” https://www.jpost.com/Jerusalem-Report/In-sickness-and-in-health-540756
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I am trying to find a better image to illustrate the neuron screen
Created by Simxaraba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Simxaraba (talk) 07:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I have now added what I think is a better image of the neuron screen. I can come up with another hook if this one is not good enough.Simxaraba (talk) 09:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is new enough, long enough, has size and references are fine, and the hook works well. QPQ isn't required. I think the other picture in the article might show the facade with the neural network detail more clearly, so it could be a better fit. Anyway, we're all set! Mariamnei (talk) 10:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly add a media marker—i.e., (pictured)— in the approved hook so that it may be promoted along with your preferred image. Speaking of which, do you agree with the reviewer's suggestion? If so, consider including it in this page. Thanks, Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since the nominator has been inactive for two weeks now, I'm just gonna go ahead and boldly do these myself. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 07:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 18

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Talk Talk (Charli XCX song)

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Converted from a redirect by Jackedano (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 251 past nominations.

Launchballer 02:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Ana Eva Hei

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Profile view of Ana Eva Hei, 1911
Profile view of Ana Eva Hei, 1911
Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 101 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 19:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is meeting the size requirement, was nominated in time, and the QPQ checks out. I don't think the image requires cropping. However, isn't the hook missing the word "surviving" for it to match what the source says, Lajmmoore? Something like "... that one of the last surviving women from Rapa Nui to receive traditional facial tattoos was queen consort Ana Eva Hei"? The article has the same issue.--NØ 11:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 19

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45 East 66th Street

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45 East 66th Street
45 East 66th Street
Created by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 676 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 21:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 20

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George Frederick Cumming Smillie

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Smillie
Smillie
  • ... that a portrait engraver (pictured) made the controversial decision to change a Souix chief's war bonnet so that it would fit on the 1899 United States five-dollar Silver Certificate?
  • Source: 1 2
Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 157 past nominations.

Bruxton (talk) 22:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and long enough. Image is free, though a crop may help. Earwig shows 3.8%, which is good. Only comment I have (choppy prose) is not a DYK issue.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:18, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Growing Form

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Growing Form
Growing Form
  • ... that sculptor Moelwyn Merchant described his 1982 piece Growing Form (pictured) as resembling "a tulip bud with the front leaf pulled out"?
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 881 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Solid article on a piece of public artwork with an interesting hook. The article is long and new enough, reliably sourced and I believe it meets the DYK criteria. Good job. Moondragon21 (talk) 13:11, 22 October 2024

Kylian Portal

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Portal at the Paralympics
Portal at the Paralympics
  • ... that swimmer Kylian Portal (pictured) and his brother both medaled in the same event at the 2024 Paralympics?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 27 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Expanded from 209 to 1963 seven days before nom. I checked the refs and refs 1 and 4 are redundant, but consider this optional. @BeanieFan11: there's only one issue needed to fix; also his brother Alex Portal has a sufficiently detailed frwiki page to translate from, so I can hold this nom if you want to add him to this nom as a bold link. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Page expanded from 192 to 2015 on day of nom. No copyvio issues found at Earwig, with any close calls being WP:LIMITED. Hook cited in the last two sentences of the article. Since Alex has a more established career (namely with more medals), you may wanna use his picture instead of Kylian's and mention him before Kylian. BeanieFan11, fix the issue and I will approve. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Portal in 2023
Alex Portal in 2023
@BeanieFan11: I prefer ALT2. Just fix the sourcing issue and I will approve. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Miraclepine: Ref two does seem to support him having the condition, though? "Kylian Portal est malvoyant en raison d’une maladie génétique appelée albinisme oculaire [Kylian Portal is visually impaired due to a genetic disease called ocular albinism]." BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:12, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11: Oops, I meant the Alex article. The Kylian page is fine. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Miraclepine: Added the ref to the Alex article. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:39, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11: Well in this case, I can finally approve ALT2 and finish this at last. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape

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Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The True Record

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The True Record, Issue 3
The True Record, Issue 3
  • ALT1: ... that the ideas of aesthetic education conveyed by the The True Record (pictured) may have informed the May Fourth Movement? Source: Pan Yaochang (潘耀昌) Xu Li (徐立) (2011). "上海早期都市文艺先锋 ———《真相画报》" [Shanghai's Early Urban Art Pioneer - "The True Record"] (PDF). Journal of Shanghai University (in Chinese): 131–140. (Quote: 画报所设想的通过探索都市新美术，倡导中西融合以提升中华民族文化内涵的举措，从某种角度而言，为五四运动时期倡导“美育”思想做了铺垫。The pictorial's idea of ​​exploring new urban art and advocating the integration of Chinese and Western cultures to enhance the cultural connotation of the Chinese nation, in a sense, paved the way for the advocacy of "aesthetic education" during the May Fourth Movement.)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Punam Krishan
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 681 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:30, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 22

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Francis W. Kelly

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Francis Kelly
Francis Kelly
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 05:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 23 September and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I don't have access to all of the sources but they look to be reliable and I didn't find any issues with overly close paraphrasing on a spotcheck of ones I could access; for the image do you have any evidence it was taken by a serving US military person, other than the setting of it? Its immediate source is a US newspaper. Hook is interesting but the nickname is only mentioned in the lead and that it was awarded for "his insistence on being on the front lines" isn't mentioned.
@Dumelow: I'll get confirmation from the PA Veterans Museum that it is a USMC image but all evidence suggests it being an official portrait. I've placed and sourced more into on the nickname.~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, give me a ping when you hear back and I'll pop back to complete the review. As you say the photo is almost certainly taken for official purposes but good to have confirmation - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Howdy @Dumelow:, I've just got off the phone with the PA Veterans Museum where the Inquirer got the photo from and they confirmed that the photo is an official military photo and in the public domain. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 18:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Darth Stabro, image looks good. My only hang up is on the "because of his insistence on being on the front lines" bit of the hook. I don't think this is explicitly stated in the article. We have "Kelly's time as a chaplain was marked by an insistence on being on the front lines" and "The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him "Father Foxhole" or "Foxhole Kelly"" but the two aren't linked directly. I'm happy to approve both hooks without the "insistence" part or perhaps you can suggest something? - Dumelow (talk) 09:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that makes sense Dumelow. How about was known as "Father Foxhole" for his consistent presence on the front lines? (I have no preference on which hook, whichever you think is best) ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 17:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approving ALT2 and ALT3 above. I don't yet have newspapers.com access but happy to AGF that the source supports the statement in the article " The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him 'Father Foxhole'"; seems to be corroborated elsewhere anyway - Dumelow (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malaysia Monument

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The Malaysia Monument in Kota Kinabalu
The Malaysia Monument in Kota Kinabalu
Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

CMD (talk) 06:36, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Review
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A picture of the monument would help and it's not clear why one of the article's pictures has not been nominated. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • A good question, to which the answer is that I did not think about that at all. I quite like the infobox image, which captured the monument with the state and national flags around it. If others disagree, I can try to find another. CMD (talk) 10:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

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Kichuś majstra Lepigliny

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 526 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Piotrus: The hook seems to be behind a paywall. Can you give a short quotation from the citation that references the hook for verification?--v/r - TP 14:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @TParis: For me this is free to download without even Wikipedia Library (just requires a free account, which I encourage you to register). Anyway, the text is on p. 290 and states in Polish: "Ostatnią część rozdziału Staniów poświęca polskim inspiracjom twórczością włoskich autorów i nawiązaniom do niej (na przykład Kichuś majstra Lepigliny Janiny Porazińskiej, zwany „polskim Pinokiem”)". FYI the referred work is „A jednak Pinokio! O literaturze włoskiej dla dzieci w Polsce w latach 1945–2012”, a chapter in a 2014 book Przekłady w systemie małych literatur. O włosko­polskich i polsko­włoskich tłumaczeniach dla dzieci i młodzieży (the cited article is a review of it). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Much of the citations are Polish books that I do not have access to nor read the language. So I am basing the copyright check on my opinion of the reputation of the nominator. The hook is interesting enough, but I think the bit about intentionally using archaic language is even more interesting if @Piotrus: wanted to incorporate that into a hook too. But passing since the existing hook is good enough. v/r - TP 23:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bear season 2

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  • Reviewed:
Created by Mjks28 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Mjks28 (talk) 02:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Proper length and age, I can easily find the source in the article and the source, and the hook is interesting. No other issues. Nice work.

Ngiam Tong Dow

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  • Source: "In 1968, we went to the World Bank meeting. The South Africans were there and we invited the South African Finance Minister to our hotel room."

"Dr Goh wanted to buy gold at a fixed price, rather than a floating market price. So we agreed to buy 100 tons, a substantial amount, at $40 US dollars." "Then he took out his US one dollar note. And sliced it into halves! Just like that. He gave half to me and said, "You keep this. I will keep the other half and my man will meet you in Switzerland."" "I handed the sliced US dollar note over. He took out the other half. It matched! The serial numbers were the same."

Ngiam, Tong Dow. A Mandarin and the Making of Public Policy: Reflections by Ngiam Tong Dow. ISBN: 978-9971-69-350-3
    • Reviewed:
Created by BenTanXiaoMing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 09:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: v/r - TP 15:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 26

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Ricot Joseph

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  • ... that Ricot Joseph was the first Haitian to play in the NFL?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 253 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Is there a non-primary source that supports this? Hooks shouldn't solely be based off primary-source database lookups. Also, there might be limitations on how far PFR database goes back. Someone might also be Haitian without being born there, e.g. parents, naturalized, etc. —Bagumba (talk) 10:09, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook could be "... that Ricot Joseph was the first Haitian-born NFL player?" – there does seem to have been a player of Haitian descent before him (Jocelyn Borgella) – but PFR is likely right in that he was the first from Haiti (unless somehow they missed someone from between 1996-2001 which I highly doubt). There's also this book with a list of Haitian-born NFL players and by looking up the others mentioned he played the earliest. Thoughts @Bagumba:? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11: I have a couple major concerns. One is that a DYK fact should be deemed interesting enough for a secondary source to have mentioned. Especially for sports, where a bevy of factoids can otherwise be queried from a database. The second concern is that neither list is definitively complete. That's where prose saying he's the first at least has the assurance that the author implicitly vouches for the statement. IIRC, DYK is also becoming more strict on "first" hook sourcing.—Bagumba (talk) 19:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there a requirement that a DYK fact should be deemed interesting enough for a secondary source to have mentioned? Both are very likely complete for this topic; we know that Borgella was the first person of Haitian descent to play in the NFL, which would require someone having been born in Haiti to play in between 1996 to 2001 which both the book and PFR to have not noticed, which seems very unlikely. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11: I'd be more lenient on a DB-listing citation like "ranked #X in a prominent ABC category', as I'd presume it's in a secondary source somewhere too. In this case, we're talking about the "first", which requires a complete data set, and I'd want a secondary source mentoning it to lend credence that said listing is deemed comprehensive and reasonable. It also demonstrates that some writer thought it was interesting. This is combined with seemingly growing DYK sentiment for improved sourcing on "first" claims e.g. at this current DYK thread: This is a "first" hook which requires exceptional sourcing. I can take it to WT:DYK, if you think wider input is helpful.—Bagumba (talk) 11:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11: Alternatively, a hook about declining a full scholarship to walk-on seems somewhat interesting. Maybe can even mix in making the NFL to that (not a must).—Bagumba (talk) 11:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bagumba: So, something like ALT1 ... that college football player Ricot Joseph declined a full scholarship so he could be a walk-on? ([17]) BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1 interesting and reliably sourced.—Bagumba (talk) 15:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ye Yanlan

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  • ... that Ye Yanlan compiled 171 portraits of Qing dynasty scholars, but these were not published until decades after his death?
  • Source: Yan Jiasen (严家森) Ma Xiao (马潇) (5 August 2003). "[祖孙篇 叶衍兰 叶恭绰] 进则为达官，退亦是名士" [[Grandparents and Grandchildren: Ye Yanlan and Ye Gongchuo] If You Advance, You Will Be a High Official; If You Retreat, You Will Be a Famous Scholar]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 23 September 2024 – via Guangdong Library. [同时，由于他擅长丹青，留意搜集历代名贤的画像，其中清代学者的尤为丰富，积三十年之功，得到169人171幅图像，给后世留下了宝贵的《清代学者象传》。 At the same time, because he was good at painting, he paid attention to collecting portraits of famous people from past dynasties, especially scholars from the Qing Dynasty. After 30 years of hard work, he collected 171 images of 169 people, leaving behind the precious "Portraits of Scholars in the Qing Dynasty" for future generations.]
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 683 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hi Chris! This is another well-written and well-sourced article about a Chinese historical figure. Earwig shows that it is copyvio free, and the sources for the hook check out. Personally, I find ALT1 to be more interesting, (not because I am a native Cantonese speaker,) but as many painters have their works published posthumously, it is not really that special or interesting. So I would prefer ALT1. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 27

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Beth Kempton

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  • ... that self-help author Beth Kempton was a cultural coordinator for the 2002 FIFA World Cup in Tokyo and the 2012 Summer Olympics in London?
Created by Silver seren (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 130 past nominations.

SilverserenC 02:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Irish Museum of Time

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The Irish Museum of Time
The Irish Museum of Time
  • Source: "One of its most valuable pieces is a clock made in London by William Clement.
The gold-plated piece dates back to 1663 and is the oldest clock in the world with an anchor escapement – the part of the clock that makes it go "tick-tock". https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/museum-of-time-faces-exercise-in-patience-putting-200-clocks-forward-this-weekend/a1629974158.html
Created by さえぼー (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 104 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 15:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hello @さえぼー: I hope you are well! 🙂 I have just a few minor issues to fix before passing this DYK. Everything else from this review looks good, but specifically in the Reception section, could you could remove the text with the finest collection of Irish timepieces in the world as it is both not neutral and taken word-for-word from the source? Two other sentences I would change would be: Since the opening, it has been a popular tourist destination.[9] In 2024, along with the nearby Bishop's Palace, it was recognised by Tripadvisor's Travellers’ Choice Awards.[10] to The museum has become a tourist destination,[9] and in 2024 was recognised, along with the nearby Bishop's Palace, by Tripadvisor's Travellers' Choice Awards.[10] for more neutrality, and [...] and to participate in the Epic Walking Tour, a guided walk around the Viking Triangle.[12] to and to participate in a guided walk around the Viking Triangle.[12] again for more neutrality. Super minor things, and after these are addressed, I'd love to pass the DYK. Cheers! Johnson524 16:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Campbell Smith

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  • ... that in retirement and after a long career of military and civil service Walter Campbell Smith changed his legal name to Walter Campbell-Smith?
  • Source: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/41787/page/5027 - London Gazette, 1959 'Notice is hereby given that by a Deed Poll dated 21st July 1959, and enrolled in the Supreme Court of Judicature on 5th August 1959, I, WALTER CAMPBELL-SMITH ... Retired Civil Servant .. abandoned the surname of Smith. —Dated the 6th day of August 1959. W. Campbell-Smith, formerly Walter Campbell Smith.
5x expanded by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 10:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is not a full review right now(I'll try and get that done in a little bit), but I personally believe the hooks aren't really interesting enough for DYK, ALT0, and definitely more so. I didn't spot any eye-catching facts in my very brief pre-skim, but if @Chaiten1: has any other hooks from the article, feel free to add. If anyone disagrees that these are interesting, please ping me so we can discuss. --PixDeVl yell talk to me! 23:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you @PixDeVl: I have one more offline source to check out, but I will come up with a couple more hooks to try out. The guy served in two World Wars, was in the chemical weapons unit at the Somme, and published his last article at the age of 94, so I am sure there's something to be found. Here are two more:
  • ALT2 ..that Walter Campbell Smith's training in mineralogy led him to volunteer with the chemical warfare unit of British army during World War 1?
Source: Foulkes, Charles (1934). Gas! The story of the Special Brigade. William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh. p. 62. "The twelve volunteers joined at Helfaut ... and were of the greatest assistance in our first three gas attacks. ... Campbell Smith stayed on in the special brigade" [offline source]
Source: Journal of Gemmology, 1989 https://gem-a.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/JoG1989_21_8.pdf "culminated in a long paper based largely on his personal knowledge of 'Seventy Years of Research in mineralogy and crystallography in the Department of Mineralogy 1857-1927' which was published in 1982 when he was 94. Chaiten1 (talk) 16:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks @Chaiten1:, I'll do the review soon. If you get any others from your offline source feel free to add and ping me. I'm leaning toward using ALT3 personally, but if you have something more interesting we can definitely go for it. --PixDeVl yell talk to me! 17:21, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to me @Chaiten1: I'm going to WP:BOLDLY go ahead and give this full approval since I'm fairly confident in this being a compliment with the criteria(if someone disagrees please correct me). I will suggest before promoting that perhaps expanding ALT1 to mention who he beat(the guy who pioneered radiometric dating) would probably be interesting enough since beating someone who made such a significant contribution by being better at a now dead language is a fun tidbit. I'd leave it to you to pick which should be promoted(or the promoter, I admit I'm not familiar with the process of closing DYK noms, feel free to point me to the right page or explain it :p). PixDeVl yell talk to me! 17:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Jianai

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  • Source: Lin, Xiaoqing Diana (2005). Peking University: Chinese Scholarship and Intellectuals, 1898–1937. pp 15-27
Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 81 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Generalissima: are you sure it's correct to say that Sun "founded" the university? The article doesn't quite state it in that way. It seems that technically the university was established by the first edict of the Guangxu Emperor as part of the Hundred Days' Reform? If it is correct, was he the sole founder or a co-founder? Onceinawhile (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Generalissima: sorry to be difficult but are you sure that is right? It doesn't say founder or co-founder anywhere in the article. This source says: "On July 3, 1898, Emperor Guangxu approved a report to implement the Imperial University of Peking and to draft its charter. Sun Jianai, a senior Chinese official, was appointed “guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen,” or the (education) minister for the imperial university's affairs." The "guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen" is zh:Category:管理大学堂事务大臣. If we are to use co-founder we will need a source stating that. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: I felt that "was tasked to organize" works for "co-founded", but I'm okay deferring to an slightly alternate hook. How about
Alt1:… that Sun Jianai organized China's first national university in 1898?
(again citing the Lin 2005 source) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT1 good to go! Onceinawhile (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generalissima Peking University says that Tianjin University was older; is that incorrect? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29 Tianjin was established as a law school with state approval, but it wasn't a national university initially - although it is now. If this seems problematic, I'm okay changing it to "one of China's first universities". Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Frederick Prigg

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  • Source: On p. 11 of the "Oregon Secretaries of State, Biographical Sketches, 1841-Present", it says John Edward Long was a physician, then goes on to say "Long served as secretary of the provisional government from May 25, 1844 to June 21, 1846. … He served in that position until he was drowned while fording the Clackamas River." In the next paragraph, the source says Frederick Prigg was a physician, then says "Prigg was appointed secretary of the provisional government to succeed Long … He fell to his death from a bluff into the Willamette River at Oregon City in October 1849." The same events are covered in Footnote 74 on p.36 of Bancroft’s History of Oregon, Volume II, but that source say Dr Long drown in the Willamette River at Oregon City (vice Clackamas River, which also flows through Oregon City). As a result, I decided not to name the river in the hook … instead of just said "river", which applies regardless of which river he drowned in.
Created by Orygun (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 121 past nominations.

Orygun (talk) 06:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Interesting fact. Article looks good. QPQ done. Appears good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wilf Perreault

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Wilf Perreault's There is Light on the Horizon
Wilf Perreault's There is Light on the Horizon
  • ... that Wilf Perreault's art work was influenced by artists such as Reta Cowley and Dorothy Knowles?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of John Stockton
  • Comment: Article came from draft today after 960 days. Images have all gone though VRT. COI has been properly addressed on authors user page and though the AfC process. Might be of interest for anyone interested in Canada and the Arts.
Moved to mainspace by Dr vulpes (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Dr vulpes (Talk) 15:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new enough (just out of draft space), long enough and appropriately referenced. The images have appropriate permissions (CC-BY-SA etc). No copyvio problems. The hook is short enough, but perhaps is missing a word or two - are they landscape painters? Is there anything surprising about this? Should the hook link to these two as well? It probably just needs a tweak Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This looks good to me - QPQ done, and no other issues. Thank you! Chaiten1 (talk) 07:22, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blanche Badcock

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Created by UndercoverClassicist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Consider changing King's Prize to Sovereign's, since that's what's cited in the the OUP, though I understand this may be an anachronism. Will leave up to the promoter; otherwise good to go. ThaesOfereode (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks -- "Sovereign's Prize" and "King's Prize" are the same thing, though there's another argument for "Sovereign's" (that no woman had ever shot for the prize while Victoria was on the throne). I've made that change. UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tenzin Doendrup

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Je Thrizur in March 2010
Je Thrizur in March 2010
Created by Ktin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Ktin (talk) 03:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to me in general, marking as a second opinion since I'm not very experienced with DYK reviews yet, so I would absolutely value anyone who notices a mistake on my part to point it out to me directly. I have slight reservations about the reliability of the sources; although this is a personal thing, I don't really have hard reasoning to object to, and given the context of the topic, it should be fine. Besides sourcing, I would give it a , a religious leader banning animal sacrifices is pretty interesting, and all the boxes are checked. PixDeVl yell talk to me! 21:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @PixDeVl: Thanks for this review. Regarding the source, Kuensel is a major newspaper in Bhutan and as such should be considered trustworthy unless determined otherwise. Our own article on Kuensel says is the national newspaper of the Kingdom of Bhutan. It was the only local newspaper available in Bhutan until 2006 when two more newspapers were launched.. Now for the fact itself, we will have to go with what the newspaper quotes. Ktin (talk) 02:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ktin: Hm, alright then! Ideally, someone else would see this and review it soon, but if not, I'd probably be fine looking again(although a second set of eyes is better than a second look) and approving(I already felt comfortable enough to fully approve another nom anyway). I'll check back on this tomorrow afternoon. --PixDeVl yell talk to me! 03:25, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Checking in on this one, @PixDeVl:. Appreciate your actions. Ktin (talk) 00:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay @Ktin: here. --PixDeVl yell talk to me! 18:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Malik Arslan

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  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Aintabli (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Aintabli (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed as nominator has 5 or less nominations. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Pargeter

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  • ... that Margaret Pargeter was one of the most widely read authors in Britain in 1986?
5x expanded by Cielquiparle (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 65 past nominations.

Cielquiparle (talk) 03:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Review: Hook fact is cited in the article to an RS, and is sufficiently interesting; hook length is ok; earwig copyvio shows no issues; DYK check shows 5 x expansion so article is valid for DYK: Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 60 edits ago on September 29, 2024; 223 characters to 4,485 characters is actually a 20x expansion; article is long enough; article is presentable, stable and fully cited (note it was recently saved from AfD by the nominator); QPQ done. Either hook considered acceptable. Good stuff! ResonantDistortion 08:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone

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Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone
Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by SkywalkerEccleston (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 12:52, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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E-Defense

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[[File:|140px|A house on the E-Defense shake table ]]
A house on the E-Defense shake table
Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 06:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • By coincidence, I was actually happening to look up discussions of "Guinness records" in WP's project-space pages hours before press time. From what I've gathered, Guinness World Records was a more reliable source before ownership changes during the 2000s decade,The studio behind Thomas the Tank Engine, of all companies, owned it at one point—true story and newer record categories may or may not hold scrutiny by the standards of WP or the expectations of other editors. Leaving it to other DYK reviewers to decide whether this case should be accepted. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 06:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looking through the Guinness World Record Site, it's one of those records that nobody else seems to be able to apply for anymore. (And given that our own article describes Guinness as a native advertising company, with no clear distinction between content and advertisement, even if this isn't one of their pay-to-play records we have no way of knowing if its accurate anymore). Looking at the paper, the other source provided for the claim, the first author "was inaugurating director of E-Defense". This hook will need much better sourcing. Or a different hook? @Panamitsu:. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In terms of the DYK process, the article is new enough, and free from copyvio. QPQ has been done. I think that what remains to be done is to adjust the hook; to tweak the text in the lede of the article, for consistency, and include the fact quoted in the hook with a citation in the main body of the article. @Panamitsu: Chaiten1 (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review, @Chaiten1:. I have tweaked the text in the article, but am unsure what you mean about hte hook and a citation. Could you clarify? ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fijian Labour Corps

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Members of the Fijian Labour Corps, 1918
Members of the Fijian Labour Corps, 1918
  • ... that members of the Fijian Labour Corps (pictured) attracted notice on the Western Front of the First World War for their height and muscularity?
  • Source: "The Native Fijian Contingent caused quite a stir on their travels to the frontline. They were highly visible in their traditional sulu uniform, wore no hats, and were of large and muscular build" from: "Fiji – Pasifika involvement in the First World War". Christchurch City Libraries. Retrieved 23 September 2024. the goes on to give other examples of their physicality, including references to their height
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 885 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 15:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I love the height/muscle hook. Is the source reliable? I'm not familiar with it. Is there perhaps a better one? Facially, the base requirements are met, and it's a well-written, well-sourced article. Only pending the source for the hook (which is also the sole cited source for the fact in the article). ꧁Zanahary꧂ 03:09, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Zanahary, it's published by the library service for New Zealand's second city. It looked reliable enough to me but happy to hear other opinions - Dumelow (talk) 09:51, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, then that is reliable Dumelow. I would still seek a source with an attributable author, since it is a viewpoint, but for the purpose of DYK I think it's settled. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rose O'Neill (Irish noblewoman)

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  • Source: Morgan, Hiram (1993). Tyrone's Rebellion: The outbreak of the Nine Years' War in Tudor Ireland. London: The Boydell Press. ISBN 0-86193-224-2. p.
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by SkywalkerEccleston (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 12:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delibird

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  • Reviewed:
Created by Captain Galaxy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

CaptainGalaxy 00:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: No QPQ required, article was promoted to GA in the last week. Interesting hook as well, and is supported by reliable sources. Good work on the article, Captain Galaxy! ~ Tails Wx 13:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grizel Niven

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5x expanded by Edwardx (talk) and Cielquiparle (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 66 past nominations.

Cielquiparle (talk) 06:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 4

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Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures

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Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Vacant0, Panamitsu, and NightWolf1223: Pulling per WT:DYK; non-WP:DYKFICTION-violating hook needed, preferably one that checks out. (Article says that minigame is DS-exclusive.)--Launchballer 09:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Echoes of Life Tour

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  • Reviewed:
Created by Henni147 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Henni147 (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC). Alright, I'm going to attempt reviewing this. First review for me, so it'll take a bit of time. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - refer to comments
QPQ: None required.

Overall: 3.8% at earwig, not too sure about hookinterest. Will need a second opinion. Pinging User:Sky Harbor. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Hook discussion
Thank you very much for taking on this review! I was not sure about the hook myself. Alternatives could be that it's (1) the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced or (2) that the show deals with the ethics of artificial intelligence among others (which is a rather unusual topic for an entertainment event). Do you think, that might work? If yes, I will try to figure out how to phrase and source the hook best. Henni147 (talk) 07:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the current hook would pass scrutiny per WP:DYKSO: The hook should not put emphasis on a commercial release date of the article subject. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Henni147:, I guess ALT1 (...that Echos of Life Tour is the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced?) may do the job? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5 and AlphaBetaGamma: Then let's go with ALT1? I just need to find a source that explicitely mentions 'Echoes of Life' as the second solo tour production. It's quite a clear fact because Hanyu's Repray Tour in 2023–24 was the first one, and no other skater has ever produced or performed a solo ice show. But we need to support it by a reliable secondary source. Henni147 (talk) 08:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is probably not a good idea as it is an exceptional claim and thus would require exceptional sourcing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: We just got the news that a full story book will be published before the first show for better access and understanding of the story. Would that be suitable for a hook text? It's quite unusual that a show or concert tour is accompanied by a book. I expect Japanese newspapers to publish some detailed reports within the next few hours. Henni147 (talk) 09:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, because a hook about a book being published would arguably count as advertising and would not fly among the DYK regulars. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: True, didn't think of the promotional aspect. There is one more idea for a hook:

ALT3: "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who also choreographed the Tokyo handover segment at the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"

This hook is supported by the source above and this one by the Japan Times newspaper: "The Tokyo handover segment of the Rio 2016 closing ceremony balanced cool imagery, references galore and meme-worthy moments. That team included musician Sheena Ringo and choreographer Mikiko Mizuno [...]" Henni147 (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the tool I'm using, the hook is 203 in prose, which exceeeds the 200 limit. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AlphaBetaGamma: Oh okay, so the "that" at the beginning is not included in the count. Does this adjustment work?

ALT3 (shortened): "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who was also involved in the choreography of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"
Sources: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com) and The Olympic opening ceremony that wasn't (The Japan Times).

This hook should have 195 characters now, but better check as well to be sure. Henni147 (talk) 07:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's 195 characters. Guess that's a wrap? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 09:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Puck Building

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The Puck Building
The Puck Building
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 678 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 13:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough (expanded), well-sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. I prefer ALT1. All hooks are cited to reliable sources, and are short enough and interesting. Images are properly licensed. QPQ done. Looks good to go. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 5

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He Jianshi

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  • Source: Swordsman: Zheng Jiazhen (鄭家鎮) (2018). 香港漫畫春秋 [Hong Kong Comics: Spring and Autumn] (in Chinese). Sanlian Bookstore. ISBN 978-962-04-4165-3. Translated: "When he was young, he studied swordsmanship with a monk from a temple in Sichuan, so he called himself Swordsman"; not to carry Americans: Jiang Peiyang (江沛扬) (6 May 2019). 广东——中国现代漫画的策源地 [Guangdong – The Origin of Modern Chinese Comics] (in Chinese). Guangdong Department of Arts and Culture. Archived from the original on 21 July 2020. Retrieved 21 July 2020. "1905 年，在反对美国对华工苛约的运动中，美国陆军部部长塔夫脱偕总统女儿到广州活动。何剑士闻讯，立即创作《龟抬美人图》张贴街头，轿夫见漫画，义愤填膺，拒绝给美国人抬轿，令美国佬狼狈不堪" ("In 1905, during a campaign against the harsh terms imposed by the United States on Chinese workers, U.S. Secretary of War Taft and the president's daughter went to Guangzhou for activities. Upon hearing the news, He Jianshi immediately created "A Beautiful Woman Carried by a Tortoise" and posted it on the streets. When the sedan bearers saw the cartoon, they were filled with righteous indignation and refused to carry the sedan for the Americans, which embarrassed the Yankees.")
  • ALT1: ... that a Chinese swordsman urged the people of Guangzhou not to carry William Howard Taft? Source: Swordsman: Zheng Jiazhen (鄭家鎮) (2018). 香港漫畫春秋 [Hong Kong Comics: Spring and Autumn] (in Chinese). Sanlian Bookstore. ISBN 978-962-04-4165-3. Translated: "When he was young, he studied swordsmanship with a monk from a temple in Sichuan, so he called himself Swordsman"; not to carry Americans: Jiang Peiyang (江沛扬) (6 May 2019). 广东——中国现代漫画的策源地 [Guangdong – The Origin of Modern Chinese Comics] (in Chinese). Guangdong Department of Arts and Culture. Archived from the original on 21 July 2020. Retrieved 21 July 2020. "1905 年，在反对美国对华工苛约的运动中，美国陆军部部长塔夫脱偕总统女儿到广州活动。何剑士闻讯，立即创作《龟抬美人图》张贴街头，轿夫见漫画，义愤填膺，拒绝给美国人抬轿，令美国佬狼狈不堪" ("In 1905, during a campaign against the harsh terms imposed by the United States on Chinese workers, U.S. Secretary of War Taft and the president's daughter went to Guangzhou for activities. Upon hearing the news, He Jianshi immediately created "A Beautiful Woman Carried by a Tortoise" and posted it on the streets. When the sedan bearers saw the cartoon, they were filled with righteous indignation and refused to carry the sedan for the Americans, which embarrassed the Yankees.")
  • ALT2: ... that He Jianshi used the Chinese opera to advance an anti-Qing agenda? Source: Guo Shan (蔡登山) (28 August 2014). 潘达微与何剑士：寓褒贬于毫端诛奸邪于纸上 [Pan Dawei and He Jianshi: Putting Praise and Blame to Paper and Punishing Evil on Paper]. Nanfeng News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 4 October 2024. Retrieved 4 October 2024 – via Sina.com. 精通音律的何剑士，于辛亥革命前夕创办“优界改良社”，用戏曲宣传革命。"He Jianshi, who was proficient in music, ... used opera to promote the revolution."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Happy of the End
  • Comment: Please note that Crisco 1492 mobile is an alternate account; it's the same editor, and thus no second credit is needed
Moved to mainspace by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 685 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life, on good sources, foreign and offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio ovious. I like ALT2 bes, thinking that the others may a bit too cryptic, - funny, that swordsman, but more so after you know that it was his chosen art name. I wonder if the word "revolution" from the source would make a hook more interesting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of the Philippines, Bucharest

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  • Source: "Not only was she the first Ambassador to Ceaucescu's [sic] Romania or to any Communist country; she was also the first woman Ambassador to serve in that part of the world." —The Philippine Star
Created by Sky Harbor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 54 past nominations.

Sky Harbor (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. I did not find any close paraphrasing and a QPQ has been provided. I'm only approving the first hook as the second hook is less interesting and more complicated; it is a "first" hook, but the sourcing required for the claim isn't exceptional and so it should be acceptable in this case. My only sticking point is that the Embassy isn't reopening until next year, so I'm not sure if the hook should instead say "was", but I'll leave it to the promoter to decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hermance Edan

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  • Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
  • ALT1: ... that little is known of Hermance Edan before she patented her first board game in 1908, at the age of 57? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
  • ALT2: ... that L'Attaque, the board game that became Stratego, was patented in 1908 by its designer, a 57-year-old woman? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farrest (talk • contribs) 05:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I translated this article from the French, so the references in the article may need some work, but Edan's age at the time of her patent seems well-attested. Thanks for your consideration!
Created by Farrest (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Farrest (talk) 20:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 6

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Sajou no Hana

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Sajou no Hana vocalist Sana at Cosplay Mania 2024
Sajou no Hana vocalist Sana at Cosplay Mania 2024
  • ... that the name of the Japanese band Sajou no Hana (vocalist pictured) has no official meaning? Source: [18] "キタニ　アルファベットにしたのは、意味を規定し過ぎない方が音楽を聴いてもらうときに余計なバイアスがかからないと思ったからで。はっきりと意味を伝えたいわけではなくて、一つのイメージに捉われるよりもいろいろなイメージを持ってもらった方がいいと思ったから。"
    • ALT1: ... that Sajou no Hana's (vocalist pictured) name is written with Latin characters instead of Japanese to prevent listeners from developing a bias when listening to their music? Source: Same source as above
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jehovah's Witnesses in Singapore
    • Comment: Slightly above the seven day requirement if going by a strict interpretation, so asking for an extension per the built-in one-two days extension guideline. Additional hook wordings are appreciated. Special thanks to Bremps who suggested a similar wording to ALT0 over at Discord. ALT0's wording could also be changed from "official" to "public" depending on how the source is interpreted.
Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article has 24.2% on earwig. No issues at all. I'd personally go with ALT0, but you do you since I have a low experience at DYK. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 13:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


HMNZS Manawanui (2019)

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HMNZS Manawanui in 2020
HMNZS Manawanui in 2020
  • ... that the Royal New Zealand Navy dive and hydrographic vessel Manawanui (pictured) sank off Samoa in October 2024?
  • Source: "The HMNZS Manawanui, a specialist dive and hydrographic vessel worth $100m, sank this morning after it ran aground on a reef off the coast of the Samoan island of Upolu and caught fire last night." from: "He said losing one of the Navy's five crewed ships, the first to be lost in peacetime, was "significant"." from: "HMNZS Manawanui crew and passengers rescued after ship runs aground in Samoa". New Zealand Defence Force. Archived from the original on 6 October 2024. Retrieved 6 October 2024.
5x expanded by Dumelow (talk), IdiotSavant (talk), and Nick-D (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 886 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 07:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All good here. An alternative hook could talk about the oil leakage and damage to the reef, but both extant hooks are sourced and viable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:33, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lesser sign of the cross

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Created by WatkynBassett (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

WatkynBassett (talk) 06:10, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Coming here from the QPQ at Template:Did you know nominations/Hammond's Hard Lines. The hook here doesn't match the text - the hook says the practice "has been traced back to the 12th century", but the article text says that that academic "traces the origin...to the 11th century". ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson and Premeditated Chaos: Thank you for time and the kind review. PMC, you are of course correct, this was an error or typo on my part. It should read "11th century". I corrected it above. WatkynBassett (talk) 20:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black Lesbian and Gay Centre

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Created by Fomoriii (talk) and Medievalfran (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 106 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 17:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Yes
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - Just a little close paraphrasing to clean up: The centre found a permanent home in 1992 in a converted railway arch in Peckham is a little too similar to the source wording ...in 1992 the BLGC finally found a permanent home in a converted railway arch in Peckham, South London in my opinion.

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Very minor wording issue with ALT0 - the source says they "supported" the boycott, the article says they "organised" it, and the hook says they "joined" it. I think all instances should reflect the wording in the source as these three can mean different things.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A cite for the one cn tag would be good but I won't hold this up just for that. Earwig looks good apart from the close paraphrasing noted above (basically all of the other similarity is a direct quote, which is attributed and cited. QPQ is good as well. I'm cool with either hook, both interesting IMO and sourcing checks out apart from a small wording question. (Just a note, I have named the reference used for ALT1 so the reference itself isn't duplicated). After the two issues above are resolved we should be good for a tick! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the review PCN02WPS - I've addressed the missing reference, the disparity in wording for ALT0 and the close paraphrasing. Lajmmoore (talk) 18:27, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet! Good to go. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 7

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50 Lan

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  • ... that 50 Lan occupied the number one spot in Taiwan's bubble tea market in the first nine months of 2023 among the 61 brands surveyed?
  • Source: Lo, Ashley (2024-04-03). "The 30-Year Journey of KOI Thé, Taiwan's Bubble Tea Leader". CommonWealth Magazine. Vol. 795. Archived from the original on 2024-10-07. Retrieved 2024-10-07.

    The article notes: "According to data monitoring company LnData, among 61 bubble tea brands in Taiwan, 50 Lan accounted for 24.3% of the invoices in the first three quarters of 2023, firmly holding the top position and being the most preferred brand across all age groups throughout the year."

  • ALT1: ... that 50 Lan occupied the number one spot in Taiwan's bubble tea market in the first nine months of 2023? Source: Same source as ALT0.
  • ALT2: ... that 50 Lan occupied the number one spot in Taiwan's bubble tea market for most of 2023? Source: Same source as ALT0.
  • ALT3: ... that 50 Lan was Taiwan's second-biggest tea brand in 2011? Source: Lin, Hsin-ching (August 2012). "Boba: The People's Drink". Taiwan Panorama. Translated by Williams, Scott. Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Archived from the original on 2024-10-07. Retrieved 2024-10-07.

    The article notes: "Ching Shin, which has more than 1,000 outlets and is currently Taiwan’s largest tea chain by market share, is highly regarded for its “pure” tea beverages. Its “oolong green tea” is its most popular drink. Taiwan’s second-largest chain, 50 Lan, is better known for its milk teas."

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pell v The Queen
Created by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 84 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 10:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Really interesting article. My wife is nuts about Wushiland; now I know what the name means! QPQ done; Earwig detects no problems. Any of the four ALTs is fine with me. Again, this was interesting to read. Thank you for creating this article. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Get the Hell Out

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Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go. Skyshiftertalk 01:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ 項貽斐 (23 August 2020). "用摔角呼應政客　音樂讓賴雅妍、禾浩辰秒變憤青". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 6 October 2024. 正式拍攝時，主景高雄市議會舊址雖符合劇情設定 [During the formal shoot, the main filming location at the former Kaohsiung City Council Hall matched the story's setting.]
  2. ^ 沈洛嘉 (29 February 2020). "【逃出立法院】政府高官議員全部變喪屍　賴雅妍攞正牌大開殺界". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 6 October 2024. 據知電影拍攝時，剛好炎夏，在取景的廢棄議場中又熱又焗... 不過賴雅妍透露最辛苦的其實是現場無水、電、冷氣等，就連去廁所都要走出拍攝現場 [During the shoot, it happened to be an intense summer, and the abandoned city council hall was very hot and stuffy... Megan Lai revealed that the toughest part was actually the lack of water, electricity, and air conditioning on set, even going to the bathroom required leaving the filming area]
  3. ^ Chien, Ying-jou (23 March 2020). "《逃出立法院》編導簡士耕王逸帆雙劍合璧拍出台片新ㄎ一ㄤ度". Yahoo! News (in Chinese). Retrieved 6 October 2024. 2020 年第一部，也是史上第二部台灣活屍片《逃出立法院》，電影在 2019 年夏天進行拍攝的時候，劇組幕前幕後成員無一不覺得這劇本很瘋狂 [The first zombie film of 2020, and the second in Taiwan's history, Get the Hell Out was filmed in the summer of 2019, during which every member of the cast and crew found the script to be quite crazy.]

Sequenza XIV

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  • ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, in 2002 the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by the artistry of Rohan de Saram including traditional Kandyan drumming? Source: [19]
    • Reviewed: to come
    • Comment: This is one of the key works of 21st-century classical music.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2118 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - ?
Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, happy to do the DYK review. The article has a readable prose size of 4310 characters. It was created yesterday. Every paragraph in the body of the article is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyright problems. QPQ has not yet been done. I have a minor quibble about the hook: it seems to me that it tries to convey too many individual facts. What about something simpler like

or

Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see. If we want to go without the series, we could use something like
ALT3: ...that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio was inspired by the childhood experiences of cellist Rohan de Saram with Kandyan drumming?
But I think your original suggestion also meets the DYK requirements so the decision may be more a matter of taste. Approved. Phlsph7(talk) 07:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One last alternative if we want to go for the full package: what do you think about the following, a version of ALT0 copy-edited only for better flow:
ALT0a: ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, completed in 2002 as the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by Rohan de Saram's artistry, including traditional Kandyan drumming?
Phlsph7 (talk) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Celie Ellis Turner

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  • ... that despite the classical music education her wealthy family had her study, Celie Ellis Turner chose to join comic opera and farce theatre over her parents' objections?
  • Source: * "Miss Ellis is a graduate of the Villa Maria Convent of Montreal, Canada, and received her musical education under Mme. Kartel, taking a post graduate course at the Metropolitan College of Music in New York." - Celie Ellis, The Sentinel
  • "She comes from one of the best families in New York, her father having been a Congressman from that State and her mother a near relative of ex-Gov. Seymour. Her family objected strongly to her going on the stage..." - At The Gardens, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
  • "Miss Celie Ellis, who has been prominent in comic opera and farce comedy for a number of years..." - Dramatic, Minneapolis Daily Times
Created by Silver seren (talk) and FloridaArmy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

SilverserenC 19:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Lock-Up (art gallery)

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  • ... that The Lock-Up, an art gallery housed in a former police station, retains the original graffiti from prisoners in the holding cells, and has incorporated the graffiti into a performative exhibition?
  • Source: Holding cells contain considerable graffiti: [20] (Offline, page 279). Graffiti incorporated: [21]

ALT1... that The Lock-Up, an art gallery housed in a former police station, uses the originally preserved cells and exercise yard for prisoners as spaces to display art?

  • Source: [22] (Offline, page 279)
Created by Damien Linnane (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

Damien Linnane (talk) 00:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Prefer ALT1. I might make it something like, that The Lock-Up is an art gallery housed in a former police station which uses the original cells as exhibition spaces?? Andre🚐 05:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Davis (escaped convict)

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James Davis
James Davis
  • Reviewed:
Created by SkywalkerEccleston (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 02:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Interesting subject. Article looks good. No QPQ required. Appears good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 8

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Chinese Garden MRT station

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  • ... that despite being next to the eponymous Chinese Garden, the Chinese Garden MRT station in Singapore did not have direct access to the garden until a year later?
Improved to Good Article status by Imbluey2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 12:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Earwig hits 2%. No problems found in changes after GA promotion. I reached out to a DYK regular, who proposed some ALTs, so sticking this up.
...that Chinese Garden MRT station originally didn't have access to the Chinese Garden?
... that a transit station in Singapore was inspired by traditional Chinese architecture? I hope this helps. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 06:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC) Imbluey2[reply]

School lunch in Japan

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Recreation of Japanese school lunch in the 1970s
Recreation of Japanese school lunch in the 1970s
  • Reviewed:
Created by AlphaBetaGamma (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

I was thinking of an ALT hook that comes with the image... But I scrapped it. oops ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 04:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article created 8 October. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed. Image good. There is an issue with cite # 18 for washingtonpost.com. Once that is done, this will be ready. Thriley (talk) 07:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 13:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Bahrain Grand Prix

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  • Source: [23] Zhou Guanyu will become Formula One’s first Chinese driver after he was signed by Alfa Romeo for the 2022 season. and the race classification [24].
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Giraffer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Giraffer (talk) 00:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: 5225C (talk • contributions) 07:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Núria Llansà

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Llansà in 1970
Llansà in 1970
Moved to mainspace by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 132 past nominations.

Kingsif (talk) 04:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is well-sourced, long enough, new enough. There are a few grammatical mistakes, but they can be easily corrected. It's a good hook in principle, but needs to be rephrased. Maybe something like: she started as both a goalkeeper and right-back in the 1972 season? Cardofk (talk) 08:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's funny, because that is what I thought when I read the hook, that she played both at the same time. Cardofk (talk) 07:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC) Please understand that as the audience, all I have are the words on the screen and not the information behind them. While it may appear to make perfect sense to the author, to the audience small meanings matter. All I wanted to do was help and I did say "something like". Cardofk (talk) 09:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Perhaps it's a terminology issue, then, as "starting goalkeeper" means first-choice goalkeeper, but without effectively insulting the other options. If you think first-choice will be better understood by a wider audience, we should go with that. And maybe there's other word issues, because several of your in-article substitutions (word choices aren't grammar, BTW) are using words that are not synonyms and are thereby obfuscating meaning, please stop. Kingsif (talk) 21:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Never mind, I've read/translated the source material, it doesn't explain why she played there. With such a brief match report, you've done your best to get a hook out of it. Cardofk (talk) 21:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cardofk: Absolutely don't worry, trying to get stuck in yourself ;) Being pretty familiar with the players and team, I can say that Llansà had previously (as the article mentions) played in defense at least once, and that teams at the time weren't robust enough that they always had enough players. This is when position shenanigans usually happened. Llansà was the best goalkeeper they had, but if the team didn't have enough defenders and she was so much a better defender than the second choice goalkeeper, balancing the squad is probably the reason. More recent sources are more in-depth, but maybe too fluffy for me personally to want to use for a hook. Kingsif (talk) 21:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johann Friedrich Hartknoch

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First edition of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
First edition of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 141 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 21:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Yakikaki, review follows: article created on 8 October and exceeds minimum length; sources are cited inline throughout; sources look to be reliable; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing from the English-language sources; hook fact is interesting, stated in the article and checks out to source cited and elsewhere (and the image of the book itself!); image is good and well out of copyright. Just awaiting a QPQ, I think - Dumelow (talk) 06:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All good - Dumelow (talk) 13:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 9

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Ivan Ivan (ice hockey)

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  • ... that Ivan Ivan is the first NHL player with the same first and last name?
  • Source: SI
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 260 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been done and is complete. Both hooks are cited inline and verified. The first hook is a "first" hook, but given that the NHL itself verified it, that meets the exceptional sourcing requirement. The second hook is verified in the link. Although the first hook is cute, I think the second hook is the more catchy of the two and also the quirkiest, so my preference is for ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vivian Stranders

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Stranders in British uniform
Stranders in British uniform
  • ... that British Royal Air Force officer and First World War veteran Vivian Stranders (pictured) became a spy for the Weimar Republic and served as an officer in the Nazi SS?
  • Source: "STRANDERS was a former Royal Flying Corps officer ... At some point he was recruited by German Intelligence and in 1926 was discovered by SIS trying to persuade a Belgian national to provide him with both French and British military information intended for his German controllers. ... He joined the Waffen SS with the rank of Major" from: "Vivian Stranders". National Archives. 1 January 1926. Retrieved 2 October 2024.; the RFC became the RAF in 1918 and he continued to serve until 1921, see London Gazette refs in article.
  • ALT1: ... that evidence that former British Royal Air Force officer Vivian Stranders (pictured) was spying for Germany was found when he was investigated for bigamy in 1926? Source: "on 31 July 1926, Sir Vernon Kell brought some papers from MI5 to Norman Kendal, the Deputy Assistant Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, relating to one Vivian Stranders who was alleged to have committed bigamy ... on 31 July 1926, Sir Vernon Kell brought some papers from MI5 to Norman Kendal, the Deputy Assistant Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, relating to one Vivian Stranders who was alleged to have committed bigamy ... On 6 December, Special Branch were informed by M15 that Stranders, now resident in Germany, had been engaged on espionage on behalf of that country; that the matter had been placed by MI5 before the Director of Public Prosecutions; and that, on the facts given by MI5, the arrest of Stranders, on his next arrival in Britain, would be justified." from: Hennessey, Thomas; Thomas, Claire (15 July 2010). Spooks the Unofficial History of MI5 From M to Miss X 1909-39. Amberley Publishing Limited. pp. 274–276. ISBN 978-1-4456-0799-3.
  • ALT2: ... that the British-born Jew Vivian Stranders (pictured) served as an officer in the Nazi SS? Source: "13 June, a meeting was convened to discuss these recruitment difficulties. One of the attendees was SS-Major Vivian Stranders, an Englishman who had served in the British Army in the First World War before becoming a naturalised German in 1933 ... Astonishingly enough, this long-standing British member of the NSDAP and SS was also Jewish a fact known to at least some of his colleagues" from: Weale, Adrian (26 August 2010). The SS: A New History. Little, Brown Book Group. p. 244. ISBN 978-0-7481-2551-7.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/LaTasha Barnes
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 887 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All three hooks eye-catching—ALT2 seems the most snappy. The QPQ submission is unresolved, awaiting drafter's response to queries. AntientNestor (talk) 12:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Veiqia

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Nundua, seated, veiqia tattoos visible at her hips
Nundua, seated, veiqia tattoos visible at her hips
  • ... that when young Fijian women reached puberty, their hips were tattooed with veiqia (pictured)? Source: "In nineteenth-century Fiji, when a girl reached puberty, she was tattooed in a secluded enclosure by a daubati (female specialist)." https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv18kc0px.19 & for hips, see " following account of tatuing (veinggia) is brief and incomplete partly because it is a custom restricted to the female sex and then confined to that portion of the body surrounding the pudendurn muliebre and adjacent areas which are covered by the short fringe skirt (liku)" https://www.jstor.org/stable/2790097
Improved to Good Article status by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 20:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Recent GA. Article is well-referenced throughout with no copyvio detected. Hook is interesting and referenced. Image confirmed to be PD. Good to go with the QPQ done. Juxlos (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Thelma (1977)

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  • ... that 1977's Typhoon Thelma was the most destructive event in Taiwan since World War II?
Moved to mainspace by Tavantius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Tavantius (talk) 05:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Manifesto (2015 film)

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  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Lapadite (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Lapadite (talk) 16:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: A highly interesting hook about a film that looks quite intriguing! Many elements covered by the GAN. The hook technically isn't cited in the article due to WP:PLOTCITE; WP:IAR I'm fine with it. Earwig erroneously thinks there's a copyvio due to the number of works listed, but everything is clean. Sdkb talk 04:22, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helmut Bauer (bishop)

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Maria im Aufgang chapel in Schimborn
Maria im Aufgang chapel in Schimborn
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2120 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Date, length, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check checks out. Image free on Commons (albeit not great quality). --Soman (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Soman and Gerda Arendt: a couple of things. Firstly, on English terminology: notwithstanding the direct translation of "Feldkapelle", a "chapel" in English is usually a room in a larger building. I would instead call this a "shrine" or similar.
      Secondly, on WP:DYKINT: perhaps we could trim the bits about his various jobs and focus on the chapel? To me, it is interesting that it is now a hiking destination, or that a ceremony has been held on the same feast day since 1984, the day of its consecration. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok for ALT1. I'm still also ok with the original hook, a kapelle is a chapel and a feldkapelle is a field chapel. See for example "feldkapelle, or field chapel, a Northern European tradition of building small chapels in rural and agrarian landscapes." ([27]) --Soman (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael S. Harrison

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Improved to Good Article status by Queen of Hearts (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 23:09, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Page has been nominated to GA recently enough. The page is good and the hook is interesting. The source says that he "participated in covert investigations into criminal and administrative allegations involving members of the New Orleans Police Department", so it doesn't explicitly say that he "posed as a corrupt officer", so a better/more explicit source is probably needed. A QPQ is also still needed. Feel free to ping me when these issues are addressed! Di (they-them) (talk) 02:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Queen of Hearts: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, was the wrong source anyway. Try: Fenton, Justin (March 14, 2023). "An uncertain future for BPD Commissioner Michael Harrison as he enters last year of contract". The Baltimore Banner. Archived from the original on November 14, 2023. QPQ coming once I get home. Diverging Diamond (is Queen of Hearts's alt; talk) 17:09, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Di (they-them): {{Did you know nominations/Armond Seidler}} Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 21:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source checks out and QPQ has been done. Good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 22:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael F. Adams

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Adams in 2013
Adams in 2013
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig comes up high, but everything seems to be long names of organizations Valereee (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Personally I find ALT1 the most interesting, ALT0 as second choice. Not wild about all the affiliated sources for the hooks, can we find somethng from places he didn't work? Valereee (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Chislehurst

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  • Source: "The exiled Emperor himself died in 1873 and was buried on 15 January 1873 in St Mary’s ... she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888," from Taking Stock, by Historic England.
Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Cardofk, review follows: article created 9 October and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject; I didn't pick up anything I considered overly close to the main source in a check for close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been started. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 10

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Samuel Lander

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Lander c.1873–74
Lander c.1873–74
Moved to mainspace by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 80 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life and work, on fine sources, offline source accepted AGF, no copyio obvious. Sorry I find both hooks not what would interest me about his life, and the second lacks any bold link to his name. The image is licensed and gives a good idea of not only him but his era. How about that he wasn't just some minister with many children, but founder and president of that early place for women's higher education? We women readers would prefer that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: thanks for the review. I have added ALT2 and ALT3 per your suggestions. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:17, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I like those better ;) I could also imagine to combine to one:
ALT2a: ... that Samuel Lander (pictured) founded in an abandoned hotel the Williamston Female College which grew into Lander University? - Good luck with the GAN! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dundonald House

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Dundonald House
Dundonald House
  • Source: "A review of security is under way at the headquarters of the Northern Ireland Prison Service after a protest by supporters of republican prisoners. Up to 30 protesters forced their way past the reception area at Dundonald House in Stormont on Wednesday and made their way to an office on the sixth floor, according to the Prison Service." from: "Security review after break-in". BBC. 3 July 2003. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
5x expanded by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 889 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 14:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

De Vinne Press Building

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The De Vinne Press Building
The De Vinne Press Building
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 680 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 22:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was 5x expanded in the last 7 days (2475b to 21kb). Article is well-sourced, neutral, and copyvio-free; only pings on Earwigs are for some long proper titles and properly attributed quotes. QPQ has been completed. Image is properly licensed and reproduces well at thumbnail size. Hooks are cited, interesting, and short enough for DYK; AGF on the offline source in ALT3. I personally think ALT0 is the most interesting. Morgan695 (talk) 01:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 11

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Beijing Hanhai

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Hidden in a well: Wang, Shanshan (27 June 2006). "Painting Scales a Mountain for Record Price". China Daily. Archived from the original on 11 October 2024. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 686 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hollywood Boulevard Commercial and Entertainment District

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Eight of the district's 102 buildings, five of which are contributing properties
Eight of the district's 102 buildings, five of which are contributing properties
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Gb321 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Gb321 (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: While Proper nouns can be expected to be reused from sources, whole sentence chunks from the cited source from 1985 appear in the article, these will need to be trimmed, rephrased. See https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Hollywood_Boulevard_Commercial_and_Entertainment_District&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Bogger (talk) 08:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Patricia Taylor

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Created by Ktin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.

Ktin (talk) 04:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I've slightly rephrased the hook ("Iran hostage crisis" is significant enough, there's no need to disambiguate). Article is new enough, well-referenced, and has no copyright violations (a few passages look iffy on Earwig, but this is mainly due to long titles or otherwise having a very limited number of ways of expressing something). Hook is also properly sourced. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:18, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sammy Basso

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Created by MinTrouble (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Sebbog13 (talk) 12:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - ALT0 should be in past tense, suggest ... that Sammy Basso was the oldest known person with progeria? ALT1 is not supported by the article text.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Nominator needs to address the hook tense, and the similarity to the good reads source. Polyamorph (talk) 13:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Polyamorph: ALT1 is supported "He dedicated his life to studying and raising awareness about progeria", not sure what to do about the ALT0 issue, I guess just use "... that Sammy Basso was the oldest known person with progeria?" - Sebbog13 (talk) 16:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Polyamorph: I got rid of the copyvios in the lead section, is it good now? - Sebbog13 (talk) 16:52, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for fixing the copyvio. For ALT1 I meant it's not mentioned clearly in the wikipedia article. It says he was a biologist and that he had the intention of further researching progeria once he had completed his degree studies, but there are no details about this. It appears that the section "Contributions to scientific research" is more about how he volunteered as a participant in research studies, but no discussion about how he personally contributed as a researcher. For now, I'm happy to approve ALT0 - I've edited the hook directly, fixing the typo. Polyamorph (talk) 17:12, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kent Brushes

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Kent shaving brushes
Kent shaving brushes
  • ... that Kent Brushes have supplied their products (examples pictured) to every British monarch since George IV?
  • Source: "Kent Brushes, which has its factory and headquarters in Apsley, is a Royal Warrant Holder for the supply of brush-ware to the Royal Household and has been providing brushes to the last nine British monarchs since 1820." from: Preston, Olivia. "Apsley's Kent Brushes wins 'Export Business of the Year' at Chamber of Commerce awards". Hemel Today. Retrieved 10 October 2024. and "In the 1820s, Kent expanded and began making toothbrushes for His Majesty King George IV. These toothbrushes were stamped with the Royal Coat of Arms. Kent Brushes has had the honour of holding a Royal Warrant for nine consecutive serving monarchs." from "Discover the Kent Brushes Heritage". Kent Brushes. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 890 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:40, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ross Mihara

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Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I will review this. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Approve ALT0. Interesting article. New enough (submitted on day of creation); long enough (4176 characters). Has multiple sources in English, appears BLP-compliant. (Small nit is that "Anonymous" is non-standard for references; if you can't find a byline, just leave it out, especially if you're citing a newspaper article. The one exception I might make is if someone went out of their way to use "Anonymous" as their byline.) Reads neutral; the large number of direct quotes makes it read a bit like a magazine article rather than an encyclopedia entry, but this isn't a show-stopper either, as the quotes appear to appropriately cite their sources. Spot check suggests copyright violation is not a problem. The single boldlinked article looks presentable. QPQ is done. There is no photo. This leaves the hooks. Strongly prefer and approve ALT0 which is interesting and cites a reliable source. Striking ALT1 on the basis that it's not that interesting (lots of people do things like that for charity) and it assumes readers know who Mark DeCarlo is. Other general comments: Is it worth explaining what some of those Japanese terms in the article mean? Not everyone wants to leave the article while reading it to click on the wikilinks. Happy to review additional ALT hooks if needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very kindly for the review. I may take you up on your offer on alternative ALTs. Please give me about a day to work on this. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 12

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Veylma Falaeo

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Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 261 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good, giving a complete overview of the subject's biography, thoroughly citing its sources and presenting facts in a neutral manner. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "first" hooks are given greater scrutiny, but I think this meets the criteria for exceptional sourcing as RFI and other sources all draw attention to Falaeo being the first; the fact can also be independently verified by looking at the list of presidents of the congress (linked in the hook). Only thing currently missing is a QPQ, feel free to ping me once that is done. Grnrchst (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. In the future I would highly suggest having a stash of reviews and/or doing the reviews before making the nomination, in order to avoid cases like this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aniello Prisco

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Moved to mainspace by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 04:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough, long enough. No copyright problems. Article and hooks are sourced. ALT0 is the more interesting and it is the one I approve. Great job! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Methuselah (lungfish)

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles J. M. Gwinn
  • Comment: Pretty much every article talking about her mentions the belly rubs. She definitely has a personality, and an aquarium fish wanting belly rubs is definitely not something people would expect at first (although, lungfish are weird like this, eh?)
Created by Chaotic Enby (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting individual! Fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I think the hook is cute. Having said that, her name is also cute so you might want to display it. Minor suggestions: Everything in the lead should be sourced in the body, and "lungfish" comes rather late. I'd drop the See also completely, but in case you want to keep it: everything but the link has to go for formality reason. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Fine by me if we add her name, what about ALT1: ... that Methuselah, the oldest living aquarium fish, likes belly rubs?
I'm okay with dropping the "See also", although ironically that's the only part I haven't written, so maybe we can ask Di (they-them).
Regarding the lead, the fact that it's an Australian lungfish is sourced, although I'm not sure how to cleanly add it earlier in the body without moving the whole "Description" section (which I haven't finished writing, there's a lot more about her). I would be open to any advice, thanks a lot! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aye, I'm fine with removing the see also section. Di (they-them) (talk) 16:49, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charles J. M. Gwinn

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Charles J. M. Gwinn
Charles J. M. Gwinn
Created by Queen of Hearts (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 03:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Going to review this one! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Article is new enough, having been moved from draftspace on October 12.
    • Three times the required length, certainly long enough.
    • Very well sourced, copyvio doesn't show anything substantial, no POV or BLP issues to be found.
    • Article is presentable. If we want to quibble on the details, the second picture is staggered from the infobox on V10, but that's not the kind of presentability issue that really matters at DYK.
    • Thankfully, the book is in open access! The first hook is fully cited there, and the second one is mostly cited there, although it does not mention that the will was drafted prior to him becoming Attorney General. To be fair, as Hopkins died two years prior, the inference is pretty obvious.
    • Both hooks are short enough.
    • The first hook is not necessarily amazing, as it already presumes knowledge of what a state's attorney in a city is (I didn't realize it was a distinct position from "attorney general" at first), and it isn't that surprising that someone drafting a constitution would get one of the offices it established. ALT1 is more interesting in my opinion, although it might depend on how recognizable Johns Hopkins is.
    • All images used in the article are public domain, and the hook image is present in the article and clear at a diminished size, so it is a good image.
    • QPQ has been done ahead of time.
    • No other issues, as far as I can see.
  • Should be fine for ALT1 at least! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kiki Wong

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Wong at a 2024 Smashing Pumpkins show with Green Day
Wong at a 2024 Smashing Pumpkins show with Green Day
  • Source: NME, June 2024: "Kiki Wong, the new guitarist in The Smashing Pumpkins, has spoken about the “mind-blowing” experience of playing her first shows with the band over the last week. [...] Among her claims to fame is playing drums for Taylor Swift's performance of "Shake It Off" at the 2014 MTV Video Music Awards."
Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: Unknown
Overall: Nice work! The pic especially is a great find. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 13

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Bethwel Henry

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  • ... that Bethwel Henry was the first Micronesian to receive a degree in his field and served as a United Nations delegate at age 25?
  • Source: degree, UN (the source says he was 26, but he was born in 1934 per [30] and his own words ([31]) and thus would have been 25)
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 262 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is well sourced, hook is somewhat interesting and QPQ is completed. Playing a bit loose with the timing, but I don't see that being an issue, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mały Brzostek

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  • ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
Created by Filipny (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - AGF on the hook citations due to the fact that I don't speak Polish. ALT2 is ineligible due to the fact that it doesn't appear in the article (and also is somewhat contradicted by the map showing its location in the article). I'm not sure ALT1 is totally factual, is it really correct to say that a town that became a suburb of another was absorbed by it?
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Pass ALT0 only, other two hooks are ineligible for reasons described above. ALT0 probably also needs a minor reword, may I propose ALT0a: "... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?". Although this isn't strictly a requirement, some copyediting to clean up awkward grammar/phrasing in the article before it appears on the front page would probably be nice. Thank you for this well researched article! 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neath, New South Wales

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Created by Cremastra (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Cremastra (talk) 16:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. All paragraphs cited. NPOV okay. Earwig and spot checking done. ALT1 is cited, but a bit humdrum. The ALT0 hook is better, but the fact does not appear in the article, and the Census article linked to above indicates three rather than five speakers. Alternatively, perhaps an ALT2 of something like "... Neath Hotel has 25 guest rooms for a village population of 430?" (25 is from their website, www.theneath.com.au/about) Edwardx (talk) 19:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've fixed the blatant error in the hook. I think it's reasonable to state the number of Tok Pisin speakers in the article, so I'll add that. I do slightly prefer ALT0 to your proposed ALT2, though, since it's a bit more surprising. Cheers, Cremastra — talk — c 19:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It was just a thought. The Tok Pisin thing is intriguing enough. Edwardx (talk) 19:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ewa Ligocka

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  • ... that Ewa Ligocka cooked another mathematician's goose?
Created by David Eppstein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 187 past nominations.

—David Eppstein (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • template:


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A pleasure to read, thank you! Good to go. Innisfree987 (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season

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  • Source: "Greene, after spending years trying to distance herself from her infamous 2018 remarks on social media blaming wildfires on 'Jewish Space Lasers,' is now using this climate emergency to double down on weather conspiracies and lasers." Owen (2024)
Moved to mainspace by Dan Leonard (talk), with significant contributions by Belbury (talk), Cowlan (talk), and BootsED (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

— Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 06:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 14

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Jabulani Mabuza

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  • Source: the majority of sources refer to him by the nickname, e.g. refs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 13.
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 263 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laws of London

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  • ... that according to the medieval legal compilation known as the Laws of London, also known as IV Æthelred, merchants from lands ruled by the German emperor appear to have enjoyed special trading privileges in eleventh-century London?
  • Source: Robertson, Laws, p. 324; Naismith, "Laws of London", p. 2

Robertson: 'Subjects of the emperor appear to be specially privileged.' Naismith: 'Traders in London came from all over northern Europe: those of Rouen, Flanders, Ponthieu, Normandy and Francia are singled out, as well as others from specific towns in the Low Countries (Huy, Liège and Nivelles) and a group referred to as ‘the men of the emperor’ (homines imperatoris) who had especially wideranging

privileges.'
    • Reviewed:
Converted from a redirect by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

John W. Keogh

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Created by Elli (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

Elli (talk | contribs) 03:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Wow – that was...interesting. Article looks good and appears to meet all the criteria. QPQ done. Both hooks are interesting, although I prefer ALT0. Looks good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xifeng concentration camp

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Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 689 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article new and long enough, well-referenced throughout. Both hooks confirmed in the Muhlhahn book, and both interesting, either will work. QPQ is done, and copyvio not detected (Earwig only flagged long names). Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 07:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 15

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You Are Here (song)

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  • ... that half a century after John Lennon's song "You Are Here" was released, its music video was issued showing previously unseen footage of Lennon?
Converted from a redirect by Shoot for the Stars (talk) and Rlendog (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 102 past nominations.

Rlendog (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is well-written and well-sourced, although I am a bit concerned that the four sources cited in the music video section may come across as OVERCITE. It might be better to either cite each source in the respective sentences they support or to remove one or two of them. Earwig shows that it is copyvio free. Hook is interesting and the source checks out. Good to go for DYK standards. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:49, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pulp and paper industry in Indonesia

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Indonesia's first modern paper factory
Indonesia's first modern paper factory
Created by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 231 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 07:53, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go. Not sure about Alt1 as it is unclear why it opening in 1922 is noteworthy. Sahaib (talk) 09:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Moore (basketball)

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  • ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
  • Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 16

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Mouthwashing (video game)

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Created by Ethmostigmus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk contribs) 10:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The page is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, written in a neutral POV and copyright free (according to Earwig). QPQ not required as nom has less than 5 DYKs. However, since games like Stardew Valley, Terraria, Beamng Drive, Undertale are all in the 'overwhelmingly positive' region and were released several years ago, I don't think ALT1 is interesting. Even Tiny Glade (released just 30 days ago) are in that region. Other ALTS are fine. JuniperChill (talk) 18:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KTSF

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 716 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tea production in Indonesia

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Created by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 232 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE please expand the section Impact to more than a one sentence paragraph RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easier to merge it to Statistics. That better? Juxlos (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: works for me. Thanks for the efforts to create this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Smart (police officer)

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James Smart
James Smart
  • ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.

Articles created/expanded on October 17

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Tyromancy

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  • Source: Eater: "There wasn’t any sort of central repository of tyromancy information; I had to go back into antique spell manuals, dream interpretation book transcripts, and more."
Culture: "Holes made from gas, like those found in Swiss cheese, could draw upon numerology, whereas the veins in blue cheese often formed images."
Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Waltiea Rolle

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  • ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school?
  • Reviewed:
Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Would it be quirkier to replace "talent scout" for Rutherford with "Olympic track and field medalist" i.e. different sport, cachet of Olympics?[36] For ALT2, this is a bit better source that she became the first instead of relying on one anticipating that she "will" be be the first. —Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the alts should I revise? Do I just edit them directly or do I add an ALT3? Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm OK with the ALT0 format, which I assume was also your preferred one? Typically, in the spirit of WP:TALK#REPLIED, it's best to just create a new ALT, to avoid anyone looking at the discussion getting confused.—Bagumba (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: The new ALTs needs to have Rutherford's medal background mentioned and sourced in the WP page as well (WP:DYKHOOK).—Bagumba (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: Sorry if it wasn't clear. Everything in the hook must be mentioned in prose and sourced in the bolded link i.e. Rolle's page, not Rutherford's page (though you can improve that too, it's just not required for DYK). The focus is on the bolded target.—Bagumba (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 seems more interesting as it mentions Rutherford's background being in a different sport. If a backup is somehow needed, ALT2 also checked out.—Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 18

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Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy

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Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
Created by Sir MemeGod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 694 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Panhandle Gap

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Trail crosses the gap in the center
Trail crosses the gap in the center
Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 253 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 04:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Beautiful photos here! It is new enough, long enough, the QPQ is good, the article is well-written and reliably sourced, and the photo is clear and attractive at this size. But I don't think there's anything unusual or interesting about this fact—that a hike is popular, long, and elevated is not that remarkable. I also tagged an issue with "Summerland" being referred to without introduction. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 19

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StoneToss

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  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by TarnishedPath (talk) and Alalch E. (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 23:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I remember when this happened. I saw everything in real time; it was simulaneously sad and hilarious (I don't use Twitter that much anymore, I'm more active on Bluesky). Anyways, this is GTG, nice job! 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 14:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lockheed Martin FB-22

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[[File:|140px|FB-22 design as of 2005 ]]
FB-22 design as of 2005
  • ... that a bomber version of the F-22 Raptor called the FB-22 was once considered by the U.S. Air Force in the mid-2000s?
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Steve7c8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Steve7c8 (talk) 02:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article recently passed GAR, is free from copyvio, no QPQ is required. The hook looks good for the main page. I fixed the image formatting within the nomination, but unfortunately this non-free image can't be used per WP:DYKIMG. Is there a free image that can be used in its place? ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I went through the images within the article and noticed that they are also all non-free and that there is no Commons category for this version of the F-22. I don't see a way that the hook can be approved with an image unless we can track down some free images of the variant. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Green (basketball)

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  • Source: "John Green, All American senior guard, was the team's high scorer with 559 points in 29 games, a 19.3 average." (The California Eagle) "At 6 feet 3, he started for the first of Wooden’s 12 NCAA Final Four teams." (Pioneer Press)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • 1. New enough - Green tickY Article created on the day of the nomination
  • 2. Long enough - Green tickY 4451 Readable prose size, not a stub
  • 3. External policy compliance - Green tickY. Well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Spot checked sources 11, 19, 21, and 26 (11% of sources used) shows no copyvio or close paraphrasing
  • 4. Presentable - Green tickY No article improvement or citation needed tags.
  • 5. Sourced - Green tickY. Verified both sources provided, meets RS.
  • 6. Hook short enough - Green tickY Brief and to the point.
  • 7. Hook interesting - Green tickY
  • 8. Images - Green tickY - No image included for main page publication
  • 9. QPQ - Green tickY - Done.
  • 10. Other Green tickY - No problems.

Kaunas Carillon

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  • Source: 1) "Nuo 1940 08 01, iškilmingai nuleidus Lietuvos valstybinę vėliavą, varpais nebeskambinta" (English: From 1940 08 01, after the solemn lowering of the national flag of Lithuania, the bells were no longer rung; first source);
    2) "Trumpam varpai suskambo 1941 metų birželio 23-iąją, per Kauno radiofoną paskelbus, jog Raudonoji armija išvyta iš miesto" (English: The bells rang briefly on 23 June 1941, when the Kaunas radio station announced that the Red Army had been driven out of the city; second source);
    3) "Kariljonas vėl suskambo 1956 pradėjus koncertuoti (nuo 1957 reguliariai) kompozitoriams V. Kuprevičiui ir jo sūnui G. A. Kuprevičiui" (English: The carillon rang again in 1956 when the composers V. Kuprevičius and his son G. A. Kuprevičius started performing (since 1957 regularly); again first source).
Created by Pofka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

-- Pofka (talk) 19:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I repeat the comment I've made elsewhere that "Nazi German" is redundant and doesn't make for good English; as an adjective, it is found almost exclusively in works by Eastern European authors. (t · c) buidhe 23:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Buidhe: Thanks for pointing this out. I have updated the DYK hook by removing word "Nazi" to harmonize it with article German occupation of Lithuania during World War II. -- Pofka (talk) 20:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Pofka put in a lot of work on this article translating Lithuanian-language sources. The article is sufficiently long and fact-based. At their request, I copyedited the article. This effort is worthy for a DYK. I'd also offer to copyedit the hook: (ALT1) "that the Kaunas Carillon stopped playing music for sixteen years (except for one day in 1941) due to the Soviet and German occupations of Lithuania?" I think this is a bit more naturally worded and not too detailed. Thrakkx (talk) 03:48, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thrakkx: Thanks for copyediting the article and for reviewing this DYK nomination. I agree that your suggested ALT1 version is better and is easier to read, thus this updated version should be preferred when adding a DYK hook about the Kaunas Carillon to the main page of Wikipedia. -- Pofka (talk) 18:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pofka: Approved ALT1 hook.

The Empire Brunei

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Atrium of The Empire Brunei hotel
Atrium of The Empire Brunei hotel
Moved to mainspace by Chipmunkdavis (talk), Pangalau (talk), and Azuru79 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

CMD (talk) 08:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shadia Abu Ghazaleh

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Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

Grnrchst (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All three hooks were verified, but I prefer ALT1 as I believe it to be the most unique hook of the three. Yue🌙 19:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feelie

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Badge from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Badge from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 693 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Looks good to me. Expansion is fine (this has nothing in common with the earlier collection of unverified trivia), the first hook is verified, I don't see any plagiarism, paragraphs are sourced, the image is properly licensed, etc. I like the first hook best. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qian Jin Bao

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January 22, 1926, issue of Qian Jin Bao
January 22, 1926, issue of Qian Jin Bao
  • Source: Alexander V. Pantsov, Steven I. Levine. Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life. Oxford University Press, 2015. pp. 34-35
Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 407 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and long enough. Earwig is showing me 0%, which may be an error, but spotchecking I haven't found any issues. Image is sufficiently clear for what it is – one doesn't expect newspapers to show up well at 100px. Looks good to go!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eternity in Flames

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Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 692 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Length, date, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check ok. Article says pulled from circulation, not banned, but in this context this is a very narrow semantic difference, so ok. --Soman (talk) 21:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dog

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Various types of dogs.
Various types of dogs.
Improved to Good Article status by Wolverine XI (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

All the better for views if you ask me, but technically that hook would be about dog meat and thus it would fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, so with regret I've struck it. ALT0 is available for review; might have a rummage for hooks myself. (Also, that image of 'a female dog nursing' is adorable.)--Launchballer 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing a tick to make clear that this comment is not an objection, but just excerpts from the two sources verifying the hook fact. The earlier article says, "The researchers determined that dogs were probably domesticated from now-extinct wolves between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago — before humans began farming around 10,000 years ago."[37] and the more recent article pushes this timeline back further,[38] "Dogs were the first domesticated species and the only animal known to enter into a domestic relationship with people during the Pleistocene [...] dogs were domesticated in Siberia by 23,000 years ago, possibly while both people and wolves were isolated during the harsh climate of the Last Glacial Maximum. Dogs then accompanied the first people into the Americas and traveled with them as humans rapidly dispersed into the continent beginning 15,000 years ago [...] The earliest generally accepted dog dates to 15 ka (from the site of Bonn-Oberkassel, discussed below). However, claims for the existence of domestic dogs as early as 40 ka (22–28) have been made on the basis of morphological (22, 24–27), isotopic (22, 29), genetic (22, 28, 30), and contextual assessments (24, 31) of ancient canid remains. Yet, none of these potential domestication markers is fail-safe, owing to the fact that wolves and early domesticated dogs can be difficult to distinguish from each other." Rjjiii (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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