Talk:Évariste Régis Huc

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Hei Shui

Are there any coordinates for Hei Shui that Huc and Gabet reached and where they stayed on their mission between Beijing and Tibet? Or a map of their journey?

All iwiki articles bluntly state it was Mongolia, but there are doubts if it was, and/or is, Mongolia proper.

I ask this because Hei Shui is a name of a number of places, but mostly it was applied to the river Amur. This may mean that they may have crossed into what is now either Heilongjiang province, or even Priamurye in nowadays Russia.

The weak point of this thinking is they both are way farther than 500 km north from Beijing. This does not solve the riddle of Hei Shui, as proper Mongolian territory closest to this distance does not seem to have places that can be called this way.

Another question is, the language Huc studied there. Since we may be sure it was not what we consider Tatar language these days, are there any clues for which language he learned to speak, if we use modern terminology? --Tar-ba-gan (talk) 23:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's a map showing the route taken by Huc and Gabet at http://www.jeanguillemot.com/En/offres/Expedition_Evariste_Huc.htm Opbeith (talk) 15:59, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dunhuang Project Editathon

Evariste Huc is one of the subjects of a Dunhuang Project editathon at the British Library from 22-26 October 2012[1]. Opbeith (talk) 15:23, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Manning

is off topic. The lead section had these references—

{{citation |contribution-url=https://dx.doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/17978 |first=Elizabeth |last=Baigent |contribution=Manning, Thomas (1772–1840) |title=Oxford Dictionary of National Biography |location=Oxford |publisher=Oxford University Press |date= }}.
{{citation |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=w6k9pto4BGMC&pg=PP1 |first=Clements Robert |last=Markham |title=Narratives of the Mission of George Bogle to Tibet and of the Journey of Thomas Manning to Lhasa |location=London |date=1876 }}; reprinted by Asian Educational Services, 1999, {{ISBN|81-206-1366-X}}.

—but (a) references don't go in the lead section and (b) these references have nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of this article or the claim that needs to be supported (that Huc was the first European since Manning in Lhasa, not that Manning ever went there). I mention it here to explain the removal of sources (usually a bad thing) and to provide the formatting if someone wanted to copy them to Manning's article, where they would be useful. — LlywelynII 02:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kia-king

certainly looks like it could be Jiajing but (a) the Jiajing Emperor of the Ming reigned when Europeans were first arriving in southern China and before the missionaries were even established at Macao and (b) the original French version of the text makes clear that the persecutions of the Jiaqing Emperor of the Qing are intended, giving his regnal dates. — LlywelynII 20:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]