Talk:1946 Atlantic hurricane season
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Orphaned references in 1946 Atlantic hurricane season
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 1946 Atlantic hurricane season's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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- From 1950 Atlantic hurricane season: Grady Norton (1950). "Hurricanes of the 1950 Season". Monthly Weather Review. 79. United States Weather Bureau: 8–15. Bibcode:1951MWRv...79....8N. doi:10.1175/1520-0493-79.1.8. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2014-01-26. Retrieved 2010-01-31.
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suggested) (help) - From 1940 Atlantic hurricane season: Gallenne, J.H. (1940). "Tropical Disturbance of May 18–27, 1940; Tropical Disturbances of August 1940; Tropical Disturbances of September 1940; Tropical Disturbances of October 1940" (pdf). Monthly Weather Review. 68 (5, 8–10). Washington, D.C.: American Meteorological Society: 148, 217–218, 245–247, 280. Bibcode:1940MWRv...68..280G. doi:10.1175/1520-0493(1940)068<0280:tdoo>2.0.co;2. Retrieved May 8, 2013.
- From List of Florida hurricanes (1900–49): Ivan Ray Tannehill (1936). "Tropical Disturbances of 1936" (PDF). Weather Bureau. Retrieved 2007-05-08.
- From 1952 Atlantic hurricane season: Grady Norton, U.S. Weather Bureau (January 1953). "Hurricanes of the 1952 Season" (PDF). National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Archived from the original (PDF) on 4 January 2011. Retrieved 2011-01-11.
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suggested) (help) - From 1948 Atlantic hurricane season: Sumner, H. C. (December 1948). "North Atlantic Hurricanes and Tropical Disturbances of 1948" (PDF). Monthly Weather Review. 76: 277–280. doi:10.1175/1520-0493(1948)076<0277:NAHATD>2.0.CO;2. Retrieved 21 December 2015.
- From 1947 Atlantic hurricane season: 1947 Monthly Weather Review
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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 00:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- How can there be named storms when no storms were named?
- Because they were named in a parallel universe :P --12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "mostly inflicted on citrus crops" --> "mostly inflicting citrus crops"
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "Although every tropical storm impacted land, effects overall were light, with less than $10 million (1946 USD) in damage and no deaths in the United States throughout the season." - this feels like it should lead the 2nd paragraph, not end it
- I guess--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "The Atlantic hurricane season officially began on June 16, 1946." - what did that mean back then? Nowadays, it's when the NHC issues outlooks every six hours, their operations are at 100% (although in recent years, they've been fully operational all months of the year). When I did 1954 AHS, the season began when the Weather Bureau began sending daily reconnaissance flights to investigate for storms, and another was when the coastal radar stations turned on. Was either the case for this season?
- The source explicitly stated that hurricane season started that day.--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "slightly below the 20-year average of 8.5 per season." - I think you should emphasize that it was the then-average. The current average is closer to 10
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "Collectively, the storms of this season left more than $5.2 million in damage and five fatalities, plus several millions of dollars in damage from the seventh tropical storm." - this just sounds a little weird. Since you don't know the damage total, just say "the storms of the season left at least $5.2 million in damage" This way itcovers the upper end
- Done--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "That cyclone was the final cyclone of the season" - redundant
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "on November 3,[5]
about12 days before the official end of the season on November 15, 1946"
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "Although September is the climatological peak of hurricane season, there was only one tropical cyclone that strengthened to tropical storm status that month. A tropical depression briefly existed near Central America. The season's most intense storm developed on September 12 and later peaked as a Category 2 hurricane with maximum sustained winds of 100 mph (155 km/h) and a lowest known barometric pressure of 975 millibars (28.8 inHg)." - I feel like the third sentence should be sooner. You already mention September's only TC in the first sentence – plop that other one on in.
- Better?--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "The season's activity was reflected with an accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) rating of 20, the lowest total since 1925." - and lowest since 1983! Add that.
- I think you meant lowest until 1983. You must have been high when you did this review :P --12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- "After slightly further intensification, the hurricane reached peak intensity at 18:00 UTC on July 7 with maximum sustained winds of 80 mph (130 km/h" - based on ship report?
- Interestingly, META mentions it, but gives no more details other than this: "HURDAT lists this as a 70 kt hurricane at 38.0N, 66.0W."--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Do you have more info on the radar imagery? I only found that in a book, and while I trust the information, I had never done research on it.
- That info actually came from an image in NOAA's photo library. I forgot to replace the old URL. However, the info isn't quite right. It mentions the storm being east of Orlando on September 16, but by that time, the cyclone was already extratropical.--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Any info on the shipwreck in the Azores? 120 is a lot
- Unfortunately, no. I searched Google and Newspapers.com and couldn't find anymore info or follow up on the 120 missing people.--12george1 (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
All around, a good article. Lemme know if any of these cause excessive difficulty. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
U.S. Weather Bureau published only 6 systems during the year
[edit]The U.S. Weather Bureau published a paper titled North Atlantic Hurricanes and Disturbances of 1946, where they only mention that the Atlantic season had 6 tropical systems. The article currently mentions seven. The article should mention how the U.S. Government did not recognize the September 9 tropical depression. Either that, or it should be removed entirely since it wasn’t recognized. Elijahandskip (talk) 05:38, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
Small update: I just checked the singular source [1] cited for that tropical depression and “09/09/“ comes out 26 times in the document, but none of the instances are for 1946. “09/09/1946” does not appear in the document either. If I am somehow missing it, someone is free to correct me, but as it appears now, the tropical depression of September 9, 1946 is an unsourced system and doesn’t seem to have any recognition from the US Government. Unless someone finds a source indicating otherwise, I think removal of it from the article would be best. I won’t remove it yet to give some time for other editors to maybe locate something about it. Elijahandskip (talk) 05:44, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Elijahandskip, that annual Atlantic hurricane summary in the Monthly Weather Review has been superseded by HURDAT reanalysis; in fact FN 7 (Documentation of Atlantic Tropical Cyclones Changes in HURDAT) states that a reanalysis of the 1946–1950 seasons was completed in March 2014, during which TS Five was "discovered" and added to HURDAT. This is why there are currently seven "named" systems listed in the article instead of the original six listed in the Monthly Weather Review published in December 1946. As for the tropical depression, while it isn't listed in HURDAT as a numbered system, FN 7 does talk about it as "Suspect 4":
Suspect 4
A weak low appeared to have formed on 9 September in the area of the Caribbean north of Honduras and east of Belize. HWM indicates a small, weak trough at 84W on the 8th, so it is possible that the low may have formed from a tropical wave. Microfilm observations indicate a closed low at 12 and 18Z on the 9th. By the 10th, this low is gone, and it is unclear whether the low dissipated or moved inland into Central America. There were no observed gales or low pressures with this system.
DAY LAT LON STATUS
September 8 Trough along 84W
September 9 17N 86W Tropical depression
September 10 Dissipated
- ...which states the system was a tropical depression on September 9, 1946 (and would explain why searching 09/09 doesn't locate it). ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 15:23, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- There it is! That’s why the search wasn’t showing up. Thanks for checking on that. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:09, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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