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Kandahar and casualties

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[1] Kandahar does not in any way relate to the Shrine or Ashura related bombings. We should either change the name of the article or move that elsewhere.

unsourced claim and the casualty count doesnt add up(Lihaas (talk) 19:56, 11 December 2011 (UTC)).[reply]
  • Ashura is a well known day like Memorial Day in USA, Day of The Dead in Mexico, or well known days something like Christmas or Easter for Christians around the world. On this Ashura day a bombing also took place in Kandahar, and the title of the page is "2011 Afghanistan Ashura bombings", meaning on the Ashura day of 2011 all these 3 bombings occurred in different parts of Afghanistan.
  • Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (Pakistanis) claimed responsibility and the target was not only Shias but Afghans. When Arabs did 9-11 in USA their target was Americans.
  • Zabiullah Mujahid is not the only Taliban spokesman, the other is Yousef Ahmadi, and there was also Abdullah Mujahid who is now held at the Parwan Detention Facility. So the proper way is to write "one of the Taliban spokesmen, Zabiuallah Mujahid...."
  • The total number has now reached 80 according to mulitiple sources based on what Afghan officials claim. The best source for news of Afghanistan is Pajhwok Afghan News as they have so many reporters present in every province and they get to inform us more accurately with updates on events.
  • Karzai did not blame Taliban for the attack, he said that the Pakistani group (Lashkar-e-Jhangvi) did it since someone from that group claimed responsibilty, and in the meantime all the Taliban groups have denied involvement. Karzai is not a psychic to know who did it at this point.
  • One US citizen was also killed, don't remove this.--Kiftaan (talk) 07:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thats not true, its OR. The article here says "The Day of Ashura, (10th day of Muharram), day of mourning in Shi'a Islam " meaning it was targeting religious practitioners
that statement is absolutely OR...because LEJ claims it doesnt equate to the targets being Afghans and not Shias...they did not claim ALL the attacks.
If the total number is as such then please add the math to the relevant article section because it doesnt add up
That edit was changed without explanation or source, we dont use OR on WP. please CITE these.
Again to make that addition CITE it or explain in edit summary otherwise its OR.
When we get consensus and sources we cna change.(Lihaas (talk) 20:04, 13 December 2011 (UTC)).[reply]