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Our cousins over the water are trying to rewrite history again!! The abbreviation for third is 3rd, in the rest of the world except the US just recently, so mos of the unit titles in this article are incorrect, as changes in grammar are not retrospective for names of units !!!!--Petebutt (talk) 07:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I made the grammar change for 3d (which is a USAF preferrence) to the more general audience preference (which most Wikipedia readers would count as) of 3rd. They were reversed by another editor. It is my personal opinion that these articles should cater to a very general audience with writers and editors assuming lack of military understanding and acronymns on behalf of the readers. Does the the Military History Wiki group have a standard guideline for numbers? If so, can someone post a link to it here? TeriEmbrey —Preceding undated comment added 15:25, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

G'day, as per the request on my talk page, this link might be helpful: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Military history. Additionally, it might be a good idea to ask others for their opinion by posting a request on WT:MILHIST. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 02:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

It appears no one has responded to Pete's request for assessment since July. B4=yes, but B1=no. There remain unreferenced statements and sources are used to support statements they do not contain. For example, "the 354th transferred a squadron of its A-7Ds to the squadron, along with volunteer airmen who joined the host 388th Tactical Fighter Wing" is not supported by the mistitled AFHRA Factsheet used to support the statement.

I presume Pete has reviewed the MOS concerning unit titles (or has run out of exclamation points), but check Maurer, Maurer, ed. (1982) [1969]. Combat Squadrons of the Air Force, World War II (PDF) (reprint ed.). Washington, DC: Office of Air Force History. pp. 22–23. ISBN 0-405-12194-6. LCCN 70605402. OCLC 72556.. --Lineagegeek (talk) 20:41, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recent history

As of January 16, 2016 this page was at 3d Flying Training Squadron, while the talk page was at Talk:3d Fighter Training Squadron. I have unified them at 3d Fighter Training Squadron, but . . .

I could find no verifiable information on the squadron being reactivated or redesignated as a Jayhawk squadron after the IFF mission was consolidated at three other bases in 2011. The Vance Air Force Base web site is no help, because its unit pages have only entries for the 71st Wing and the medical group and each of these directs to a dead link. However, I did find hints. First is the image in the infobox, but it does not have an exact date. Second is an undated Vance AFB telephone book listing the squadron as equipped with the Jayhawk. I've left the picture and the aircraft flown entries on the page even though inconsistent with the rest of the article. Anyone who can find a source is invited to update the page. --Lineagegeek (talk) 20:22, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]