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Not a federally recognized unit.

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The patch of the 40th infantry brigade combat team, cited by the U.S. Army’s Department of Heraldry is not the one listed in this photo. The photo is incorrect and needs to be changed. Please check your sources, although the patch is on the California site it is not authorized by a much more reputable source, that being the US Army’s Department of Heraldry. Wild1316 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wild1316 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved to 79th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (United States). Aervanath (talk) 07:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

40th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (United States) → 79th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (United States) — The unit has been redesignated to be the 79th ICBT, and said redesginated name has been cited in the article. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 08:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Differing histories

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The 79th Infantry Brigade was formerly designated as the 40th Infantry Brigade prior to the change in designation, as such the history section was that of the 40th. Due to the change, and understandably so, the history has been recently changed to reflect the history of the 79th Brigade. Should a separate article be created for the 40th Infantry Brigade be created with the different history, or should this article contain both histories?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per the Appropriate Notification section of WP:CANVASS I have notified the editor who made the change and the California WikiProject. If others wish to notify the Military History WikiProject one can.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
They should definitely be two pages. People will know the 40th as the unit of WWI, WWII and Korea, while the 79th has information about participation in GWOT. It would be best to like to the 79th at the end of the 40th article, and link to the 40th at the beginning of the 79th article. —Ed!(talk) 16:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course there should be two pages ! The 40th is as notable as the 79th, so deserves its own page. Gets confusing with 40th Infantry and 40th Armored though; they should have looked up their own history in 1968 and reused 79th and 80th rather than doubling up on the 40th... Buckshot06 (talk) 21:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Voila: 40th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (United States). Buckshot06 (talk) 04:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed content

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It appears in a recent change content supported by Grizzly Magazines was removed from the article space. May I inquire why this occurred?

The article does agree with the present narrative provided in the article, but the removed content was also supported by the same article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because the authors and the CA ARNG in general, it appears, confuse the history of units like the San Diego Greys with the history of the 79th Infantry Brigade. That article explicitly says the history of the brigade can be traced back to 1881, which is codswallop. The brigade was formed in 1917. The mistake they've made is conflating brigade subordinate units with the brigade itself. That's a great reference, but not for the history of this brigade; more for preceeding California militia units, which are antecedants of some of the units which originally formed the CA ARNG. Does this make my reasoning clear? Buckshot06 (talk) 22:15, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, this explains it. It appears that the brigade's HHC traces itself back to the San Diego City Guard, and as such the brigade carries the HHC's lineage.
This is further confirmed by the Center of Military History, as seen here. There are additional references as well that can be of assistance, such as this one.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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