Talk:AMC Concord
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Options/Comparisons
[edit]I'm surprised someone removed the statements regarding the following:
- Options – Yes, air conditioning, power steering and brakes, and automatic transmission were available (as options) on AMC Hornets. But power locks, windows, seats, etc., were not; in fact, it was 1980 when these items were first offered on Concords, thus, its placement in the article. The listing of standard equipment and the statement "For car in its size and price class, the Concord came better equipped than many of its competitors" tells only part of the story.
- Comparing to other cars – It is fair, IMO, to compare the AMC Concord with the BMW 3 and Cadillac Cimarron. Look at comparative specifications between the three cars and, added to the above statement, you'll see the statement – even though I admit it reeks of POV – is valid.
- Image – Yes, it is a good idea to use the publicity shot from AMC. But I don't see how the previous image portrayed the car as "junker." Although I admit a better photo could have been used, the car portrayed in the color image appeared to be a car that was in fine condition. [[Briguy52748 14:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)]]
- Regarding the changes - they were meant to streamline the article and provide a better image of the vehicle. As for the BMW3 connection, you maintain that a road hugging, firm seated BMW 3 Series and the over-tuffted velour interior, softly sprung Concord were alike? If one is traveling eighty-miles per hour in the 3 Series and then slam on the brakes, you would find a very different stop expirienced than if you were to try that in nose heavy Concord. If the Concord's performance was indeed equal to that of a 3Series, than I am at a loss to explain why the 3Series exists, and the Concord doesn't. If the image of the car is your car, than I apologize again. But in IMHO the image of any car used in a Wikipedia entry for that model needs to illustrate the car well, as it was designed, and that includes good lighting, etc, all of its parts, such as wheelcovers, etc. The job of these articles is to provide the reader with a sound overview of the car.If I have offended you, I apologize. Stude62 14:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Stude62 – Hey, don't worry, you didn't offend me at all; I simply was looking for a few explanations about your edits before considering whether (and what) to revert. However, I will say I am fully aware of this article's purpose – to give an accurate overview of the car.
- BTW – the item about the luxury options (power locks, et al.) came from "The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1976-1999," and is where I drew the comparisons to the BMW 3 and Cadillac Cimarron as compact, entry-level luxury cars (though these cars may not necessarily be good performers or road handlers; indeed, the BMW was vastly superior to the AMC Concord, and Cadillac Cimarron for that matter). By that standard, then perhaps the Cimarron more closely matches the AMC Concord when both cars are loaded with options, but that is a debate for somewhere other than Wikipedia. [[Briguy52748 18:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)]]
- Update - I went back and looked at the previous "junker" photo, and while I don't think it would qualify as such, a better photograph could have been used beforehand (since this car had no wheel covers and mismatched, worn tires). As a friendly suggestion, perhaps you can find a color image - publicity or a newer one in mint condition - to depict the car to complement the existing B&W photo. [[Briguy52748 22:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)]]
- Tried to find a color image and could find one in my collection that was catalog based. If you see a good example and snap it, could you post it? Stude62 00:26, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
- Regarding the changes - they were meant to streamline the article and provide a better image of the vehicle. As for the BMW3 connection, you maintain that a road hugging, firm seated BMW 3 Series and the over-tuffted velour interior, softly sprung Concord were alike? If one is traveling eighty-miles per hour in the 3 Series and then slam on the brakes, you would find a very different stop expirienced than if you were to try that in nose heavy Concord. If the Concord's performance was indeed equal to that of a 3Series, than I am at a loss to explain why the 3Series exists, and the Concord doesn't. If the image of the car is your car, than I apologize again. But in IMHO the image of any car used in a Wikipedia entry for that model needs to illustrate the car well, as it was designed, and that includes good lighting, etc, all of its parts, such as wheelcovers, etc. The job of these articles is to provide the reader with a sound overview of the car.If I have offended you, I apologize. Stude62 14:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
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