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Suggested change: 2009 Single-Season Passing Yards Record Error
Under professional career/starting seasons/2009, the following statement is incorrect:
"With his high-powered arm and multiple receiving weapons, Rodgers came only 25 yards shy of breaking Brett Favre's single-season passing yards record for a Green Bay quarterback."
Recommend changing to:
"With his high-powered arm and multiple receiving weapons, Rodgers surpassed Brett Favre's single-season passing yards record for a Green Bay quarterback by 21 yards, falling short of Lynn Dickey's all-time single-season record by only 24 yards."
Suggested REF: GB Packers Records
--Legalbadger (talk) 06:50, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- You're right, go for it. --NortyNort (talk) 22:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- See below from source. Favre does hold a record in this category
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Most Yards Passing, Season 4,458, Lynn Dickey, 1983 (484 attempts) 4,434, Aaron Rodgers, 2009 (541 attempts) 4,413, Brett Favre, 1995 (570 attempts --NortyNort (talk) 04:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, let's break the sentence down:
- "Rodgers surpassed Brett Favre's single-season passing yards record for a Green Bay quarterback by 21 yards" - No he didn't. Brett Favre does not hold the record for single-season passing yards record for a Green Bay QB. Before Aaron Rodgers, he was in second place in that category. Thus stating that Brett Favre holds a record in this category is factually incorrect. I agree that he beat Brett Favre by 21 yards, but he didn't beat any record. It would be like saying Don Majkowski holds a record for single-season passing yards because he is in fourth place. It makes no sense.
- "falling short of Lynn Dickey's all-time single-season record by only 24 yards." - The first part of the sentence says that Aaron broke the record for single-season passing yards, but the second part says that he fell short of the very same record! The sentence doesn't make sense.
- I have changed the sentence accordingly. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:14, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- To be quite honest - who care's who Rodgers passed to be 2nd on the Packers list? It's notable however. I've changed the sentence as follows & also included a reference: "Aaron always wanted to play for the niners, since the lost to NY giants he now is very interested in a trade for Aaron and Grant for Smith and Gore. This trade might just happen"
- "His passing yardage was good for second all-time in Packers history behind only Lynn Dickey's all-time single-season record." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stylteralmaldo (talk • contribs) 17:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Suggest Change: First comeback win in 2008, not 2009
Aaron Rodger's first 4th quarter come from behind win was against the Lions in Detroit in 2008. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RodgAa00 --Mendeleev (talk) 07:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- I changed the sentence to read that it was his first comeback win when his team was trailing entering the 4th quarter. The two Lions "comeback wins" from 2008 had one situation when the Packers were actually leading heading into the 4th quarter and the other had the teams tied entering the 4th quarter. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Suggested change: 2009 season recap grammar error
As it exists now: "However, after Favre dropped out due to injury and Brees was replaced due to his participation in Super Bowl XLIV, Rodgers became the NFC's starting QB position."
"starting QB position" should be changed to either "starting QB" or "starter at the QB position". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awirshba (talk • contribs) 03:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I changed it to 'starter for the game'. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 18:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
College TDs and INTs
In the table it lists his last season of college as 24 TD 8 INT but in the Green Bay Packers Backup seasons it states 23 TD 7 INT for his last college season. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm suggests 24 and 8 is correct.Bostonjoker (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from W33-AZZA, 27 June 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} He Has a cousin also called Arran Rodgers
W33-AZZA (talk) 14:19, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Suggested Addition: Professionalism
"Aaron Rodgers has quietly maintained a positive public image, promoting good sportsmanship and camaraderie among both teammates and even rivals, as he on several occasions has spoken positively of rival Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, who reportedly has helped Rodgers' brother Jordan, who currently attends Vanderbilt. Aaron Rodgers is also known for the amount of ass he crushes."
Suggested REF: [1]
"In the 2010 season, the night before Rodgers and the Packers faced the Bears in Chicago on Monday Night Football, Rodgers paid for Bears linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa's dinner after a mixup at a Chicago restaurant which led Rodgers to be seated at a table before Tinoisamoa."
Suggested REF: [2]
"Rodgers has also been known to host and speak at various charity events in the Wisconsin area. In a recent charity event benefiting the MACC Fund, an organization that provides money to help prevent childhood cancer and blood disorders. Rodgers was lauded by the local media for his professional demeanor and his sincerity and kind words to various families who have lost children to cancer."
Suggested REF: [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.66.2.207 (talk) 12:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Please see WP:BLPNAME. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 10:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Highest Career Quarterback rating
A quarterback becomes eligible for most "career" ratings after 1500 attempts. Aaron Rodgers met this distinction during the present season. Since becoming eligible for this distinction Aaron Rodgers has traded the title, back and forth, with Philip Rivers. As of the end of week 16 Aaron Rodgers again has the title of Highest Career Quarterback Ranking. Since this is such a significant, and widely used, measure of an NFL quarterback's ability I feel it must be mentioned in this article. Rather than updating weekly I feel it is best to put in a section on his quarterback rating and that, since reaching 1500 attempts, has been a front-runner in this category. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.25.93.245 (talk) 02:55, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- QB rating, while not a be-all and end-all number by any means (and one that is obviously inflated by rule changes and the growth of the passing game over the last 20 years), is a valid and relevant statistic regaredless and one that QBs are often measured by, so yes it's significant that he is the current all-time leader. His standing may need to be updated somewhat frequently, however, depending on the performance of other current quarterbacks who are in constant contention for the #1 spot (primarily Philip Rivers, who is currently behind Rodgers by 1.2, which is a gap narrow enough to be eclipsed in a single season).
- The more impressive number, however, is Interception % - most quarterbacks have their worst seasons in this category at the beginning of their careers, whereas Rodgers has become the career leader in that span. A league-leading int% by a player with only three years as a starter may actually be unprecedented, but I will ascertain proof for this before lobbying for that to be included here. If it IS unprecedented, then this may be the most important statistic of his young career, by far.
Suggested Change: 2004 Season
Suggest changing the following text to add "Golden Bears" instead of "Bears" (to avoid any confusion with the Chicago Bears).
Should be changed to:
"Despite these records, the USC Golden Bears were 1st and goal with 1:47 remaining and the Golden Bears did not score a game-winning touchdown in a game ending sequence that included three incomplete passes and a sack against USC.[6]
After Texas was picked over Cal for a Rose Bowl berth, the fourth-ranked Golden Bears earned a spot in the Holiday Bowl, but lost to Texas Tech, 45-31.[7] After the season, Rodgers decided to forgo his senior season (without a redshirt) to enter the 2005 NFL Draft. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.69.145 (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Bhubele, 24 January 2011
{{edit semi-protected}} In the 2010 section it says the packers beat the Seahawks in the playoffs, but they actually played the Eagles and won not the Seahawks.
Bhubele (talk) 00:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC) ALSO, "the 10th NFC team to go to the Super Bowl in the last 10 years..." By definition a NFC team goes to the Super Bowl EVERY year - it's NFC vs AFC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.102.80.64 (talk) 01:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Already done -Atmoz (talk) 15:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 174.124.47.20, 24 January 2011
In the section for celebrations it talks about the atlanta game and says it happened in januray 2010 when it should be january 2011. {{edit semi-protected}} Under section 3.1.2.3, discussing Aaron Rodger's 2010 season, there is a sentence stating "During the Playoffs, Rodgers continued to perform exceptionally and lead the Packers past the Philadelphia Eagles , #1 seed Atlanta Falcons, and #1 Chicago Bears." The "Seattle Seahawks" should be changed to "Philadelphia Eagles". The Seattle Seahawks were never played by the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. It was the Chicago Bears who beat the Seahawks. The Eagles with Michael Vick were the first to lose to the Packers in the playoffs.
174.124.47.20 (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Already done -Atmoz (talk) 15:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 71.59.131.106, 6 February 2011
{{edit semi-protected}} in the "Early Years" section this is stated Rodgers is from Chico in Butte County, California. He attended Vose Elementary School and Whitman Middle School in Beaverton, Oregon
The actual name of the middle school is "Whitford" not "Whitman"
here is a link to the school home page http://www.beavton.k12.or.us/whitford/home.html
here is a link to the news article talking about Rogers going there http://www.kgw.com/sports/Aaron-Rodgers-went-to-Beaverton-school-115281449.html 71.59.131.106 (talk) 16:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
edit request 3 - early career
The name of the team who drafted him is not stated until after all of the draft and initial salary information has been given.
This is an encyclopedia, not a blog--all relevant information must be stated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.12.197.152 (talk) 23:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Response to Archive Question
This is just a response to an unanswered archive question. Someone wanted to know whether or not Aaron was Jewish. He is not. He attended Neighborhood Church while living in Chico. --69.237.93.135 (talk) 05:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Jander12, 10 February 2011
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Butte College is 10 miles from Chico,Ca.
Jander12 (talk) 06:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
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Suggested Addition: In Popular Culture
Rodgers was mentioned in several episodes of The Bugle: Audio Newspaper for a Visual World that Daily Show correspondent and writer John Oliver co-hosts with Andy Zaltzman. In Episode 138 after Rodgers received his second concussion of the season Oliver describes him as "a points machine" and yells at him not to screw him over by not playing during the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers contributed to the victory of John Oliver's 2011 fantasy football team "the British Bulldogs". Oliver's 2011 victory marks the second time in three years that he won The Daily Show's fantasy football league. In Episode 139 Oliver thanks Rodgers for helping the British Bulldogs win and comments that after Aaron Rodger's recovered from his concussion he became "a points volcano." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.201.138.25 (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- Need more details and sources on the impact on popular culture Bagumba (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
edit request 2 - early career
between second and 22rd positions - clearly should be 23rd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.12.197.152 (talk) 23:41, 7 February 2011
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edit request 4 - early career
Please remove the line saying that there are facebook pages about his belt celebration. This is completely unnecessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.20.38 (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2011
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Edit Request
Under touchdown celebration, John Abraham should be listed as a defensive end rather than a defensive tackle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.78.153 (talk) 16:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Edit Request
Opening blurb: "among passers with at least 1,500 and 150 pass attempts respectively" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.27.85 (talk) 00:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
edit request - early career [SERIOUSLY, FIX THIS, SERIOUS ERROR]
Aaron Rodgers just said himself tonight(2/7/11) on Letterman that he was 6'2" 190lbs coming out of High School he just went unnoticed until Jeff Tedford from Cal discovered him at Butte College while scouting tight End Garrett Cross. This is a significant mistake.Jerblaine (talk) 08:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)jerblaine
I was going to make the same change, citing a different source: http://www.wydaily.com/local-news/6783-green-bay-qb-rodgers-visits-all-pro-campers-at-wam.html.
Belt update
Shouldn't it be mentioned that his belt move is now a key part of the national insurance ad campaign? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.90.15 (talk) 18:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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The "Haters Gonna Hate" on the picture of Aaron Rodgers is quite cheesy. Replace it with an internet meme-free picture, please. Thanks. DBR96A (talk) 09:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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The article incorrectly says that in 2002, while the quarterback for Butte College, Aaron Rodgers set a record for single season touchdown passes of 28. That is incorrect. Aaron Rodgers passed for 26 touchdowns - not 28. That can be verified by going to the Butte College Football web site, pasted below, corroborated by the Chico Enterprise Record, the local newspaper covering Butte College Football, also pasted. There has also been television coverage by television channels 12 and 24, local stations in Chico, CA.
The current record holder is Collin Ramirez, who to date has 27 touchdown passes in the season with one game remaining.
A link is provided to both stations' coverage of the record breaking.
http://www.khsltv.com/content/localsports/story/Collin-Ramirez-Talks-About-Passing-Rodgers/VUVWXSPPWE6ucmH2iYtnDg.cspx http://www.knvn.com/content/localsports/story/Collin-Ramirez-Talks-About-Passing-Rodgers/VUVWXSPPWE6ucmH2iYtnDg.cspx
Here is the newspaper story.
http://www.chicoer.com/ci_19327051?IADID=Search-www.chicoer.com-www.chicoer.com Butte romps as Ramirez breaks Rodgers' record By TRAVIS SOUDERS-Sports Writer Posted: 11/13/2011 12:10:30 AM PST
Click photo to enlargeButte College quarterback Collin Ramirez (right), here throwing a pass during an Oct. 15 game as...«12»LOS ALTOS HILLS —
Not even Aaron Rodgers, perhaps the greatest Butte College quarterback in the program's history, can say he had a more prolific season than the one Collin Ramirez has had. And Ramirez almost certainly isn't done yet.
Ramirez threw for 225 yards and five touchdowns, reaching 27 for the season to break Rodgers' school record for touchdown passes in a single season, and the Roadrunners defeated Foothill College 37-7 Saturday to solidify their bid for a quality bowl game.
The Roadrunners await their postseason fate, which will be decided today.
Ramirez hit Jacob Corbaley and Nick Lonnegren for two touchdowns apiece, and also hit Shawn Conway Jr. for a 53-yard bomb in three quarters' worth of play, and Butte's defense came up with four interceptions and seven sacks in a regular-season finale to remember for the Roadrunners (9-1, 4-1 NorCal Conference).
"I'm really proud of Collin. A couple years ago, we thought he'd have a chance to compete for a starting job when we scouted him," Butte head coach Jeff Jordan said, "but to come in and break Aaron's record, that's a great feather in his cap. We've had a lot of really successful quarterbacks in this program and he's put his name up there with them."
Lonnegren's two touchdown catches were the ones that helped Ramirez tie and break Rodgers' nearly decade-long standard; the wideout first caught a post right over the middle for 53 yards with 2:38 in the second quarter, then later latched on to a tipped pass in the end zone on a 30-yard throw to make Ramirez the sole owner of the record. "It's cool, and it means a lot to me," Ramirez said. "Obviously that's a big name you're talking about. But I owe a lot of it to my team, and it's more important that we're 9-1. That's something to be proud of for everybody."
The following is pasted from the Butte College Football website
http://www.butte.edu/departments/athletics/football/StatsRecords.html Stats & Records BC Home > Athletics > Football > BUTTE FOOTBALL RECORDS
PASSING
TD passes, season
26, Aaron Rodgers, 2002
75.106.213.111 (talk) 16:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Ralph Ramirez
Done — Bility (talk) 22:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Good Article
I'm considering putting this through the WP:GA process, what do you all think?--SKATER Is Back 14:15, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
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I'll review this article shortly. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:39, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
While I like Aaron Rodgers, there is a lot to fix for this article to approach GA status:
- The backup seasons section is virtually unreferenced.
- A lot of references are bare URLs, and need publishers, access dates, etc. added.
- There's a high number of deadlinks that need fixing: see here
- Youtube's not a reliable source usually; find a better source for the stuff that uses that.
- "including lowest interception rate at 1.43%" rate (1.43%).
- "during both the regular season (103.3), and in the post-season (112.6) – " and the postseason.
- "He set single-game records of 6 touchdowns" six touchdowns
- It feels like some more could be added to the college career. I'm not asking for a huge amount, but if there are a few other big games worth mentioning whether good or bad, then by all means include them. Especially 2004 should be expanded, as it only hits on the USC game.
- "After the season, Rodgers decided to forego his senior season (without a redshirt) to enter the 2005 NFL Draft." the redshirt part isn't needed, and I'd prefer a cite here, though I don't think anyone will dispute it.
- "Rodgers also holds the school career record for lowest percentage of passes intercepted at 1.95%." This contradicts the 1.43% noted twice; if it's meant to be career than clarify.
- "Despite these records, the Bears had 1st and goal with 1:47 remaining and could not score a winning touchdown. The game-ending sequence included three incomplete passes and a sack by USC." What do the records have to do with one drive? Either greatly reword or scrap entirely.
- "impressing many NFL scouts. Who commented that he was a" the sentence starting with who feels jarring. Is it meant to be combined with the previous one? If not, reword the start anyway.
- "over inflated due to playing in a Quarterback friendly system" overinflated...quarterback
- "In addition to the fact that many teams drafting between second and 23rd positions had positional needs more pressing than quarterback, Rodgers' moderate height (6'2") may have contributed to his precipitous slide." cites needed for that stuff.
- "Rodgers is one of six quarterbacks coached by Jeff Tedford to be drafted in the first round, joining Akili Smith, Trent Dilfer, Joey Harrington, and Kyle Boller." It says one of six but only five are noted; add the sixth.
- "In August 2005 at age 21" the age isn't really needed here.
- "Rodgers agreed to a reported five-year, $7.7 million deal that included $5.4 million in guaranteed money and had the potential to pay him as much as $24.5 million if all incentives and escalators were met." So he could get 4x as much as the contract was worth in incentives? I'm pretty sure that's not possible, so this needs rewording.
- "Rodgers spent a disappointing 4–12 2005 season as the Packers' back-up quarterback behind Brett Favre." backup's one word, and remove disappointing; modifiers need to be used sparingly on sports articles.
- "On November 19, 2006, Rodgers broke his left foot against the New England Patriots in a 35–0 defeat at home while filling in for an injured Brett Favre and missed the remainder of the 2006 season. Rodgers made a full recovery and was ready for the start of the 2007 season." what games did he play in in 2006 besides that, and what were his stats? Missing a good amount of info that could be useful in the first couple years.
- "meaning Rodgers would remain the starter." would become, since he hadn't started a game yet.
- I'm positive the personal life section could be expanded, giving how big a name he is.
This is an extensive list on things that need to be fixed, and I actually did not complete a read-through of the article. As a result I'm going to fail it as a GA. Once all these concerns are addressed, send the article in for a peer review before retrying for GA status. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 06:02, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Suggested change: 2004 college career discrepancy
Suggested Change sentence: " In that game, Rodgers set a school record for consecutive completed passes with 26 and tied an NCAA record with 23 consecutive passes completed in one game." --- How could a school record of 26 consecutive completions only tie an NCAA record of 23 consecutive completions? Did he take the NCAA record, or was it a separate record, since he started the game with 23 completions? This should be clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpr103 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 5 January 2012
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The section
Green Bay Packers
Backup seasons (2005–2007)
Paragraph 2, Sentence 5. Packers is misspelled as "Pacers." Change Pacers to Packers
JFeustel (talk) 17:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Done, thanks for pointing it out--Jac16888 Talk 17:22, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 13 January 2012
The section
College Career
2002
Paragraph 1, Sentence 1. Rodgers is misspelled as "Rogers." Change Rogers to Rodgers
Awards
Shouldn't the Awards and Achievements section be expanded to include his MVP awards and Male Athelte of the year? 71.239.250.61 (talk) 02:31, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Wrong word (request on 15 May 2012)
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In section 3.3.1 (Backup seasons 2005 -2007): Wrong word used in the fourth sentence.
Current version: "He had to endure a manufacturing radio in his helmet..."
Correction: "He had to endure a malfunctioning radio in his helmet..."
69.174.58.36 (talk) 15:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Done Thanks for correcting my typo!.--SKATER Is Back 15:42, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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- I'll do this review soon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- WRT Talk:Aaron Rodgers/GA1 issues still outstanding:
- Most bare URLs fixed, but ref 29 bare URL still visible
- A lot of references
are bare URLs, andneed publishers, access dates, etc. added. - post-season -> postseason
- It feels like some more could be added to the college career. I'm not asking for a huge amount, but if there are a few other big games worth mentioning whether good or bad, then by all means include them.
- In 2006 ... what were his stats? Missing a good amount of info that could be useful in the first couple years.
- Most other issues have been resolved from GA1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:45, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I regard the WP:LEAD to be brief and the article to be sparse given his level of success. That being said, I will commence with the article.
- including lowest interception rate at 1.43%.-->including lowest single-season and career interception rates at 1.43% and 1.95%, respectively.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- link interception.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Start the 2nd para with the Super Bowl/MVP content.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I would group all the passer rating records together. Something like: Rodgers holds several NFL records, including the single-season, career regular season and career postseason passer rating records of 122.5, 104.1 and 105.5, respectively. He also holds the league's lowest career regular season pass interception percentage record of 1.80%.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- At 1006 characters of readable prose, I think the LEAD is less than half the length it should be. See if we can get it into the 2000-2500 character range.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Mention his high school and juco.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Mention he spent three seasons backing up Favre.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Summarize each section of the article in the LEAD.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Early years
- He set single-game records of six touchdowns and 440 all-purpose yards. Rodgers also set a single-season record with 2,466 total yards. - school, conference, county or state records?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- This section is sparse. Mention he played hoops and possibly wore size 14s in high school.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- What is the JV Almond Bowl?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- College years
- Note he was among the top-rated Juco players in the country according to www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/rodgers_aaron00.html.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Start beefing this up by talking about all his 300-yard games and 3TD efforts. As a sophomore he had 5 300-yard games. Not sure about junior. You should be able to do site searches (e.g., search on the term "Aaron Rodgers" site:sfgate.com) at sfgate.com and nytimes.com for some game details. ESPN may have details going back that far too. At the very least, we can be pretty sure sfgate.com would cover any 300-yard game by a record-setting Cal QB.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:38, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- There must be stories about him at sfgate.com. They surely write at least one story on Cal football daily from August to January and he was the QB.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:45, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- This section should detail why his offense was QB friendly. Mention the offensive scheme and possibly the offensive coordinator.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- If it was QB friendly, some receivers should get mentioned, but this will probably be part of mentioning all the 300-yard games.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Add links to the 2003 and 2004 Cal football teams to the text.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Link to overtime.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Draft
- "Rodgers was widely projected to be the number one pick in the 2005 NFL Draft," -needs three citations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Note that although 24th he was the 2nd QB.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Backup seasons (2005–2007)
- "before ending the series" series-preseason.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Regular season should start a new paragraph.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- "in to the competition" -> the game.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- October 2 - opponent?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- NBC's Andrea Kramer - link both.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- link sacked.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- 2008
- "Rodgers had been unable to win a close game during the season despite seven opportunities to do so." - State what "close game" means in this context.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Can you add years to Bart Starr (294, YYYY) and Brett Favre (163, YYYY)?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- 2009
- "His passing yardage made him second all-time in Packers history, behind only Lynn Dickey's all-time single-season record." -needs space in front. Also, what year?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- link 2009–10 NFL playoffs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- link to YYYY Pro Bowl.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- 2010
- The two overtime defeats brought Rodgers' record in overtime games to 0–5 (NFL record). He won at Cal.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- link concussion--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- "Rodgers missed the next week's regular season start ending his streak of consecutive starts at 45, which is tied for the second longest in team history." What week of the season was this? What date?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- "tied an NFL record for consecutive playoff games with at least three touchdown passes (3 games)" - whose record? how many games?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- 2011
- link to 2011 Green Bay Packers season--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- "best single season passer rating in NFL history" - single-season, surpassing who? from what season?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Voted #1 on the top 100 players of the league in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.191.99 (talk) 18:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Touchdown celebration
- "State Farm commercial" --Should be a series of commercials featuring various teammates including Raji and Matthews.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Images
- Both File:AaronRodgers.jpg and File:Aaron Rodgers.jpg need
{{personality rights}}
.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC) - The former needs to have its WP:CAPTION revised for punctuation.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- I am putting this article on Hold. Please respond to each concern on the subsequent line. I will monitor progress and
strikeresolved concerns. I will reevaluate this nomination in seven days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have notified the nominator that there has been no progress yet.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Skater looks to be little busy off wiki so do you mind, if I try to address the problems within a week? Thanks! →TSU tp* 14:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- That would be great.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Given you surrender and a lack of response from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League#Talk:Aaron_Rodgers.2FGA2, I am failing this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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TYPO:
Sentence reads: "He continued to struggle through the preseason, before ending the series-preseason by converting two third towns and throwing a touchdown pass to Tight End Ben Steele against the Tennessee Titans."
Should be: "He continued to struggle through the preseason, before ending the series-preseason by converting two third downs and throwing a touchdown pass to Tight End Ben Steele against the Tennessee Titans."
Jaydude5 (talk) 01:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Fixed Thanks. Dru of Id (talk) 02:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 23 October 2012
Grammar Issue:
Sentence reads: Only player in NFL history to throw 45+ touchdowns, and 6 or less interceptions in a single season
Should be: Only player in NFL history to throw 45+ touchdowns, and 6 or fewer interceptions in a single season Sodamoeba (talk) 14:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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Add more detail to Aaron Rodgers historic 2011 season. Ex: It is possible that no quarterback has ever played at a higher level than Rodger's did in 2011. - Set the Packer's records for most passing yards and touchdowns in a season as well as highest completion percentage, passer rating, and yard per attempt. Packers also scored the most points in a season in team history sex sexy with 560, second all-time. Led Green Bay to 19 consecutive victories, second all-time. Most 300 yard passing games in a single season in franchise history. Led Green Bay to a 6-0 division record. Only team in NFC North history to go undefeated in the division. 2011 Packers are one of only 3 teams in NFL history to score 35 points or more in 9 games in a single season. -NFL records:
-Highest passer rating in a season (122.5) -Tied NFL record for most consecutive games with at least two touchdown passes (13) - Most games with a passer rating of over 100.0 in a season, - Most consecutive games with a passer rating of over 100.0. - Most consecutive games with a passer rating of over 110.0 - Only QB in NFL history to pass for 4 touchdowns and rush for 2 touchdowns in a single game.
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Done (answered below request) RudolfRed (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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Please change Aaron Rodgers's regular season passing rating which has to be updated to include 2012 season statistics to change his QB Rating from 104.9 to 115.0 Vechicin (talk) 02:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Not done: Contradicts reliable sources. I checked NFL.com and Pro-Football-Reference.com and both say his career QB rating is 104.9, and his rating for the 2012 regular season is 108.0. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Edit Request on 7 February 2013
Would it be appropriate to add his love of golf to the article? He is even participating in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am this weekend.
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In an interview with 60 Minutes, Aaron Rodgers said he was self conscious about his height and gets upset when people call him short even though he is 6'2. Newmediallison (talk) 16:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Not done: I don't see where this information would fit in the article. This is not an absolute "no" answer to the request. If any autoconfirmed user in good standing sees fit to add this content with a reliable source I will not object to doing so. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Awards and Achievements
"Only Rodgers, Marino, and Favre have thrown for over 30 touchdowns in more than one season before turning the age of 30"
This statement is false.
The following players have all accomplished this:
Philip Rivers Peyton Manning Daunte Culpepper Steve Bartkowski Daryle Lamonica
I am not sure if this is how to request a change, because I am not allowed to edit he page directly, but this should either be changed, or just deleted. *Follow up from that person's comments- I just read that "fact" and noticed immediately questioned it- this "fact" should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.254.118.38 (talk) 17:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
A few mistakes that I can see
His career highlights and accolades section needs tweaking, false records are still there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonlord9377 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
I see a lot of mistakes
Could someone please fix the mistakes on this page? His career stats are 1,752 completions out of 2,665 attempts for 21,661 yards, 171 touchdowns, 46 interceptions with a passer rating of 104.9. That is a big one that NEEDS to be fixed, please and thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonlord9377 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Aaron Rodgers was in a relationship with Kevin Lanflisi.
http://www.thefamedriven.com/fame-driven-mail-did-the-green-bay-packers-star-nfl-quarterback-aaron-rodgers-have-a-falling-out-with-male-roommatepersonal-assistant-kevin-lanflisi/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.176.247.150 (talk) 11:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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on the 2013 season it says that the packers were 7-8-1 that would be not only 16 games but the packers would have been eliminated from playoff contention. The packers entered 7-7-1 and won with a td pass from aaron rodgers to randall cobb in the the final minute on 4th and 8. the win gave them 8-7-1 good enough to win the division 184.166.40.49 (talk) 06:40, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. While I am fairly certain that you are correct, we are unable to change the article unless you can provide a reliable source that says that. Thank you for your understanding (and I hope you come back quickly with such a source). — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 14:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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In the 2013 section, the wrong record is shown for heading into the final game of the season. Also 'fought their way back' is not really appropriate language for a wikipedia article, and in any case hardly describes going from 5-6-1 to 7-8-1. This: the Packers had fought their way back to a 7-8-1 record going into the final week of the season should be changed to the Packers had a 7-7-1 record going into the final week of the season 173.20.208.73 (talk) 21:11, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 22:37, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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Please remove the second to last item in the Packer records section: It's juvenile, unprofessional, inappropriate, and not even funny.
99.57.69.227 (talk) 21:02, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Done - thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 21:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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change "calling is Super Bowl 48 in a half" to "calling it Super Bowl 48-and-a-half" or maybe even "XLVIII-and-a-half"
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Replace the phrase "receiving core" with "receiving corps". It is likely that the wrong homonym was used, judging by the definitions and usage of the terms "core" and "corps".
Definitions:
- core: the part of something that is central to its existence or character.
- corps: a body of people engaged in a particular activity.
Usage:
Punkstarman (talk) 12:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Done I don't think there's anything incorrect by saying core, "receiving core" would mean the core, the most important members of the receivers. However, your sources and a quick Google search show that "corps" seems to be more commonly used. I suppose using corps also allows for some ambiguity on which receivers were dropping passes - corps allows for any of them, while core would mean it was their best Cannolis (talk) 16:23, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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Add <http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm> 2014 post-season stats to this page.
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Reviewer: Sportsguy17 (talk · contribs) 23:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I will be reviewing this article. Let me take a first look-through and see what we have going on here. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 23:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I've taken a first glance at the article and unfortunately, this is looking like this is going to be a fail. The 2011-2014 seasons are poorly sourced. They have some great information in them, but unless they're sourced properly, then whether it's good info or not is immaterial. Also, several [citation needed] and other similar tags are seen throughout the article. I can tell you the steps to take in order to get this to having a chance at passing, but this time around, I do not feel comfortable passing this article. @Church: If you want me to detail out what my issues are through a more in-depth review, I can, or I can leave it to you to figure it out. It's up to you. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 23:17, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sportsguy17, the nominator hasn't edited on Wikipedia since last year. At this point, over a month after your review, I think this has to be considered abandoned; since it looks to be a fail anyway, you should probably do just that. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:50, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Closing comment
Nominator Church hasn't edited since December 2014, and reviewer Sportsguy17 hasn't edited since March 21, six weeks ago. Since the initial review listed a number of issues including citation needed tags and a clear lack of adequate sourcing in the 2011 through 2014 sections, and these continue to be issues, I'm closing the nomination, which does not meet the standards for being listed as a Good Article at this time. The article can be nominated again once it has been improved by addressing the issues raised here. (It can, of course, be nominated without doing so, but I'd consider that grounds for an immediate failure.) BlueMoonset (talk) 17:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Celebrity Jeopardy
I think this little tidbit is worthy of his charitable contributions section: he won Celebrity Jeopardy (broadcast on May 12, 2015), raising $50k for the MACC Fund (which is not currently linked in the article), beating out astronaut Mark Kelly and Shark Tank entrepreneur Kevin O'Leary.[1][2] 76.102.195.68 (talk) 07:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
References
Done Added to "Humanitarian and charitable efforts" section. Thanks for providing the info.--JayJasper (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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Add ESPYS award (2015) under the careers highlights and awards. JoshiesWorld (talk) 07:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Done -it was added at 03.42 - before your request- Arjayay (talk) 08:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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Starting season -> 2014 paragraph 7 last sentence. It was the first Packer playoff victory overall the Cowboys since the legendary Ice Bowl game in 1967. Rodgers finished 24 of 35 for 316 yards, 3 touchdowns, no picks, and a 125.4 passer rating. change overall to over. 192.189.178.20 (talk) 16:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 17:25, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
someone do something
Can someone add this information into the article Aaron Rodgers where it mentions his career highlights and rewards since its protected:
And this reference: [4] Thanks! --74.130.133.1 (talk) 20:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Done BMK (talk) 06:42, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
See my message at WP:AN. --74.130.133.1 (talk) 17:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Streak ended
I have realized that Aaron Rodgers no interception streak has ENDED yesterday. Someone add this into the article Aaron Rodgers since it is protected. It was mentioned at 2015 Packers week 5 and somewhere in the article 2012 Packers. --74.130.133.1 (talk) 01:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Missing Entry
Under: NFL records Career: Please add Joe Flacco in the entry: One of only six quarterbacks (Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning and Dan Marino) to pass for over 1,000 yards in a single postseason — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.221.58.21 (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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Someone vandalized the page, I can't edit it myself since the article is semi-protected. "please change AARON RODGERS IS NOT GOOD" etc. by reverting the page to the previous entry prior to the vandalism Yasha429 (talk) 18:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Already done Edit was reverted by another editor. --Stabila711 (talk) 01:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Can someone fix the redlink in the infobox? Here's the code to use, just copy/paste it. [[FedEx Air & Ground NFL Players of the Week#FedEx Air & Ground Players of the Year winners|Fed-Ex Air NFL Player of the Year]]
Thanks, 161.222.160.8 (talk) 15:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
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under 2004 in the "college career" section, it states "After a timeout and Rodgers's incomplete pass on third down, USC stopped Cal's run play to win the game." In fact, the source link shows that the fourth down play was an incomplete pass, not a stopped run play. The sentence should read "After a timeout and Rodgers's incomplete pass on third down, USC forced another incompletion on fourth down to win the game." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.72.235.4 (talk) 20:34, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Under the 2007 year (next-to-last paragraph),it states Rodgers was rumored to be traded to Oakland for Randy Moss.
As a long-time Packers sports writer I can attest to the fact that that so-called rumor never even happened - unless it was in the imagination of whomever entered it into Wikipedia.
There clearly is no citation for it, since it never happened.
An article from WI J-S made THAT perfectly clear on March 11, 2007.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/29310724.html
"If the Packers were to offer a player, the source said the Raiders wouldn't have any interest in quarterback Aaron Rodgers but indicated that defensive end Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila or defensive tackle Corey Williams might have considerable appeal to them. The Packers insist Rodgers isn't available, anyway."
Take it out. I'd do it but have no wish to enter into some edit war.
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The 2015 season was Aaron Rodgers worst season since 2008. 2607:FCC8:BCA0:6700:D9F1:10F0:30C5:A504 (talk) 20:03, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 21:07, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Nuke unsourced claims
@Bigmoe797: Don't hesitate to trim out those unsourced claims. Especially if they aren't directly relevant to Rodgers.
- "Although they had a respectable 6–3 record, the Packers were criticized for not being able to beat teams with winning records. They got their chance by hosting the 7–2 Eagles, who had the 4th highest scoring offense at the time and led the league in takeaways. Continuing their home field dominance, the Packers stomped out to a 30–6 halftime lead, and finished with a 53–20 blowout. The 53 points scored by the Packers was the highest total surrendered by the Eagles since 1972, resulting in the first pair of back-to-back 50 point games in Packer franchise history. The 2014 Packers became the only team to ever score 28 points or more by halftime in four consecutive home games."
I'd clip most, if not all of this paragraph. This is the article for Aaron Rodgers, not 2014 Green Bay Packers season. Lizard (talk) 04:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Lizard the Wizard: I agree, and I trimmed up that paragraph and I'll try to do the same with the rest as much as I can, but it's just so messy. Bigmoe797 (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Check out this version of Ben Roethlisberger from a few months ago. It was an absolute trash heap. It's still pretty bad. Lizard (talk) 17:21, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Lizard the Wizard: Oh my, I knew the current version was bad but that's just a monstrosity. To be honest, with the seasons being so exhaustive, is there a in-depth page of Roethlisberger's career to put them on or is that stuff already on the Steeler season pages? Bigmoe797 (talk) 18:30, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- (I have this page watched so no need to ping) They most likely aren't on the Steelers season pages. What happens is, editors will update player pages on a week-to-week basis without any regard for the significance of that week's game or performance. The result is an overly long page bogged down with insignificant info of little encyclopedic value, which violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Not to mention it's a bore to read. Lizard (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Lizard the Wizard: Oh my, I knew the current version was bad but that's just a monstrosity. To be honest, with the seasons being so exhaustive, is there a in-depth page of Roethlisberger's career to put them on or is that stuff already on the Steeler season pages? Bigmoe797 (talk) 18:30, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Check out this version of Ben Roethlisberger from a few months ago. It was an absolute trash heap. It's still pretty bad. Lizard (talk) 17:21, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Lizard the Wizard: I agree, and I trimmed up that paragraph and I'll try to do the same with the rest as much as I can, but it's just so messy. Bigmoe797 (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding Dating Danica Patrick
If we are going to add and mention that he used to Date Olivia Munn, I see it as only fair that his new relationship is mentioned as well. Especially when there are a number of sources (independent and including Danica herself) confirming it. I don't see how it's a WP:NOTTABLOID If it's true. [5] [6] [7] --Church Talk 07:40, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- One difference is that Munn was a long-term relationship, which would make it more WP:PROPORTIONal and less of a WP:NOTDIARY concern.—Bagumba (talk) 16:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- I dunno, I wonder if we're just being stubborn here. It's been widely reported and is common knowledge in the sports world at this point; it'd be odd for this page not to mention it. Lizard (talk) 16:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing whether it's true. While WP is WP:NOTPAPER, it's also WP:NOTEVERYTHING. The more relevant question is when is a person's dating life worth mentioning, not trying to equate Patrick with Munn. (For the record, I have not said to exclude Patrick yet)—Bagumba (talk) 16:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Lizard the Wizard: Could you talk to User:Sabbatino and User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. I have oppose addition source content adding update content on her personal life. And also Wikipedia is not a dating history website. 2001:569:7C07:2600:9CAA:7C50:8DF1:A111 (talk) 01:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- What has this to do with me? Furthermore, I have no idea what are you talking about as I can hardly understand your sentence. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Lizard the Wizard: Could you talk to User:Sabbatino and User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. I have oppose addition source content adding update content on her personal life. And also Wikipedia is not a dating history website. 2001:569:7C07:2600:9CAA:7C50:8DF1:A111 (talk) 01:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing whether it's true. While WP is WP:NOTPAPER, it's also WP:NOTEVERYTHING. The more relevant question is when is a person's dating life worth mentioning, not trying to equate Patrick with Munn. (For the record, I have not said to exclude Patrick yet)—Bagumba (talk) 16:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Again I pose the question of how this is Tabloid, or why Olivia Munn is included? I feel people are being very stubborn considering they have both confirmed it. Should we open up an RFC regarding the subject?--Church Talk 11:27, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- There should really be a discussion, which would determine when a relationship becomes notable and is worth mentioning. Just going to "automatic" mode and adding every person that someone has dated is just trivia. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Part of me does agree with that, but I'm trying to think from a readers perspective. Like Lizard said earlier, it's common knowledge at this point in the world of sports and it seems odd to not include it. I'll wait another day and then we may need to go to a WP:RFC on it --Church Talk 22:40, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- A reader that already knows that they are dating will not miss anything from it not being there. So the question continues to be when is it not trivial to mention it for someone who does not know. Per the policy WP:NOTDIARY: "
For example, news reporting about celebrities and sports figures can be very frequent and cover a lot of trivia, but using all these sources would lead to over-detailed articles that look like a diary. Not every match played or goal scored is significant enough to be included in the biography of a person.
"—Bagumba (talk) 01:51, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- A reader that already knows that they are dating will not miss anything from it not being there. So the question continues to be when is it not trivial to mention it for someone who does not know. Per the policy WP:NOTDIARY: "
- Part of me does agree with that, but I'm trying to think from a readers perspective. Like Lizard said earlier, it's common knowledge at this point in the world of sports and it seems odd to not include it. I'll wait another day and then we may need to go to a WP:RFC on it --Church Talk 22:40, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- There should really be a discussion, which would determine when a relationship becomes notable and is worth mentioning. Just going to "automatic" mode and adding every person that someone has dated is just trivia. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- I dunno, I wonder if we're just being stubborn here. It's been widely reported and is common knowledge in the sports world at this point; it'd be odd for this page not to mention it. Lizard (talk) 16:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Full transparency, a note was left at my talk page letting me know about this discussion. I would argue that it should be included for the following reasons:
- Obviously, a lot of reliable sources have reported the relationship.
- Both athletes are notable in their own right.
- A relationship becomes notable when it occurs and is confirmed. How are we going to decide when a relationship is notable enough for inclusion (is a 1-year relationship more notable than a 6-month relationship, etc.)?
- The issues that are brought up (NOTEVERYTHING, NOTDIARY, etc) would be an issue if there was an entire paragraph about them dating. A simple one line sentence stating the fact is sufficient and neutral.
I would recommend after the sentence about him dating Munn, it says As of January 2018, Rodgers is in a relationship with American professional racing driver Danica Patrick.
or something similar. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:38, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
For the record, Sister Morphine recently deleted mention of Patrick also.—Bagumba (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- OK, did you look at the source? [8]. Patrick is publishing family photos with Rodgers in them. There is also this where she says "Yes, Aaron and I are dating" [9] Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Gonzo here; there's been enough media coverage to warrant a single sentence in an article that currently has 13,125 words. C'mon, it's been covered by WaPo. Are we waiting for an official statement from the United Nations? Lizard (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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Add This record which he currently holds to either his 2017 career paragraph or statistics paragraph
Rodgers isn't just the highest-rated qualified passer in NFL history, but no other quarterback is within eight points of his 106.0 rating. The gap that separates Rodgers from second-place Tony Romo is about the same as the gap that separates Romo from Matt Schaub, who ranks 13th all-time with a rating of 89.5.
Now, we can't really only compare Rodgers with his peers here because it's a different game. How else do you explain Romo being the second highest-rated passer in history and Schaub being 13th? It's safe to say that Joe Montana wouldn't have a 92.3 career rating in this era, and Rodgers wouldn't have a 106.0 rating in Montana's era.
Still, take a look at how Rodgers compares to guys who have been active during the same era
[1] PackFAN18 (talk) 10:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Not done. I'm not sure exactly what you want to add. It's already mentioned several times in the article that he has the highest passer rating in NFL history. Did you want to add all the above text? Because that's definitely a no-go as it's copied verbatim from the source you posted, so it'd be a copyright violation. Put it into your own words and summarize it a bit and we might have something to work with. Lizard (talk) 13:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
References
RfC Regarding Danica Patrick
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should it be mentioned in the article that Aaron Rodgers is dating Danica Patrick? For Context please see the above discussion. --Church Talk 19:37, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Survey
- Support-- Per my reason above. --Church Talk 19:38, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes - The parties themselves are stating it to the press and publishing their own photos. This is not gossip or paparazzi sneak photos. I can't believe people feel a need to vote on this. --SVTCobra (talk) 19:42, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose There is no doubt they have been dating ... for a full month.[10] However, the policy WP:NOTDIARY is clear: "
Even when an individual is notable, not all events they are involved in are. For example, news reporting about celebrities and sports figures can be very frequent and cover a lot of trivia, but using all these sources would lead to over-detailed articles that look like a diary.
" Comparisons to inclusion of his relationship with Olivia Munn are a misguided case of WP:OTHERSTUFF, as that was a longer-term relationship and WP:PROPORTIONal to his bio. Sorry, one month is just too trivial.—Bagumba (talk) 20:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Curious as to what makes a relationship not "too trivial"? If one month is too trivial, is two months? 6 months? A year? When do you think it would become notable enough to add? Also remembering that reliably sourced coverage of the relationship will most likely be focused on milestones and will be hit and miss in the meantime. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:56, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support having a sentence on their relationship, based on the wide coverage it's received, including from major outlets such as USA Today and the Washington Post. Lizard (talk) 20:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bagumba. That source is violates the tabloid policy and too much trivia information. Steam5 (talk) 02:22, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Steam5, but are you calling Associated Press, USA Today and Washington Post "tabloids"? --SVTCobra (talk) 02:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Can't talk now, I'm busy. Will see if User:Sabbatino and User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz to decide if they can "support" or "oppose" the addition for a possible trivial content per WP:NOTATABLOID. Steam5 (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- OK, but I think this easily passes the "inclusion test" of WP:NOTATABLOID. Cheers, SVTCobra (talk) 05:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Can't talk now, I'm busy. Will see if User:Sabbatino and User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz to decide if they can "support" or "oppose" the addition for a possible trivial content per WP:NOTATABLOID. Steam5 (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Steam5, but are you calling Associated Press, USA Today and Washington Post "tabloids"? --SVTCobra (talk) 02:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Abstain at this time. I do not have a firm opinion on this matter right now. One side of me says that it should be included, while the other says the opposite. – Sabbatino (talk) 22:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Since it has been reported in multiple reliable sources and doesn't read like a TMZ type tabloid. Meatsgains(talk) 03:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose dating for a whole month? Wow! A fact of mind-numbing triviality. Pincrete (talk) 23:31, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support, reliably sourced. Two famous people whose relationship has garnered significant coverage in its own right. There is no way for us to determine when a relationship is notable (a week, month, 6 months, year, marriage???), thus if it is reliably sourced and notable in its own right it should be included. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:52, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
There is no way for us to determine when a relationship is notable [...] thus if it is reliably sourced and notable in its own right
– ??? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Gah (Summoned by bot) It is RS, and I wouldn't consider it trivial after 6 months, but right now I feel it is too early. I won't oppose It's insertion, but personally I would wait. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'll see your Gah and up you an Ughhhhh... In all seriousness folks, neither side could give way on this incredibly trivial difference in content before resorting to an RfC pulling in editor time? Well, alright then--I lean slightly towards oppose. Frankly, I feel as though, project-wide, we have gotten a little too loose with including trivial details about the social lives of the subjects of BLPs, where said information does not relate to the subject's general notability. Outside of relationships that have hit a certain minimum threshold of WP:WEIGHT in coverage, I frankly don't think statements concerning which sports figures, models, and celebrities are snogging eachother are in any way relevant to the purpose of an encyclopedic review of a person's notability. That said, I reiterate that the difference of content advocated by the two different sides here is minuscule enough that I would have expected one side or the other to give way. Snow let's rap 00:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bagumba and Pincrete. Honestly, why should any reader care about this trivial development? Will Wiki bios be documenting subjects' shoe sizes and favorite cocktails next? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- If RS makes a big deal about… L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 23:28, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Support as the content is reliably sourced. I've waited until near to the end of the RFC to see if there would be any material changes to the relationship given how long they had been together at the start of the RFC, but there haven't been, so a short mention cited to a reliable source should suffice here for now. If they have a low profile break up in the near future, then there is a good argument for removal. Iffy★Chat -- 10:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Threaded discussion
- In regards to the NOTDIARY debate, I understand the dissuasion to the topic. Has there been any kind of precedent on this before? Was anyone here long enough ago to when Tony Romo began dating Jessica Simpson to know when that was included? Perhaps that will allow us to reach some sort of conclusion on a proper inclusion time. --Church Talk 21:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't want to dig so deep in the archives as Romo/Simpson, but I think the following can serve as a precedent: Alex Rodriguez' relationship with Jennifer Lopez was added within a month of them becoming "official" (see diff) and has stayed on his article ever since. --SVTCobra (talk) 23:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- We should avoid comparing other content. Aaron Rodgers is neither Alex Rodriguez nor Tony Romo, and Danica Patrick is neither Jessica Simpson nor Jennifer Lopez. Lizard (talk) 00:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, Lizard. It should be based on policy, not precedent. And the policy cited by Bagumba states: "For example, news reporting about celebrities and sports figures can be very frequent and cover a lot of trivia, but using all these sources would lead to over-detailed articles that look like a diary. Not every match played or goal scored is significant enough to be included in the biography of a person." This is neither a diary entry about Rodgers and Patrick at the beach nor about their day at the Daytona 500. It is merely an acknowledgement that they consider themselves to be in a relationship, and it is not a one-night-stand or something of that sort. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 01:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Pinging Muboshgu, who took Derek Jeter to FA. Jeter dated a lot of celebs, so it would be informative to see how it was decided which ones got listed and which were filtered. I don't follow this TMZ-type news, but with a quick Google I found that Adriana Lima and Jessica Alba are not listed in Jeter's article. Are there others? Were there objective criteria used for Jeter that make sense for Rodgers?—Bagumba (talk) 09:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I welcome the input. I doubt, however, that any of those were as public as this. SVTCobra (talk) 12:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- My memory is terrible, but the Internet remembers everything. Jeter was nominated at FAC four times, failing the first three. I suggest skimming through those discussions to see how his dating life was covered. Duck duck duck goose. (Or maybe it was covered in a GAN). – Muboshgu (talk) 16:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I welcome the input. I doubt, however, that any of those were as public as this. SVTCobra (talk) 12:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Pinging Muboshgu, who took Derek Jeter to FA. Jeter dated a lot of celebs, so it would be informative to see how it was decided which ones got listed and which were filtered. I don't follow this TMZ-type news, but with a quick Google I found that Adriana Lima and Jessica Alba are not listed in Jeter's article. Are there others? Were there objective criteria used for Jeter that make sense for Rodgers?—Bagumba (talk) 09:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, Lizard. It should be based on policy, not precedent. And the policy cited by Bagumba states: "For example, news reporting about celebrities and sports figures can be very frequent and cover a lot of trivia, but using all these sources would lead to over-detailed articles that look like a diary. Not every match played or goal scored is significant enough to be included in the biography of a person." This is neither a diary entry about Rodgers and Patrick at the beach nor about their day at the Daytona 500. It is merely an acknowledgement that they consider themselves to be in a relationship, and it is not a one-night-stand or something of that sort. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 01:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- We should avoid comparing other content. Aaron Rodgers is neither Alex Rodriguez nor Tony Romo, and Danica Patrick is neither Jessica Simpson nor Jennifer Lopez. Lizard (talk) 00:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't want to dig so deep in the archives as Romo/Simpson, but I think the following can serve as a precedent: Alex Rodriguez' relationship with Jennifer Lopez was added within a month of them becoming "official" (see diff) and has stayed on his article ever since. --SVTCobra (talk) 23:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Bucks ownership
I'm looking for input from more experienced editors here because I'm wondering 1) Should this news be included on the subject's Wikipedia page? And 2) If so, under what section would it go?
Here's the source: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23269313/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-purchases-minority-stake-milwaukee-bucks
And a tentative suggestion on language: "On April 20, 2018, during a playoff game against the Boston Celtics, Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers was announced as a limited partner in the Milwaukee Bucks ownership group, making him the first active NFL player with an ownership stake in an NBA franchise."
Any feedback is appreciated. HPLeu (talk) 12:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'd say it's worth a mention due to that last part: "the first active NFL player with an ownership stake in an NBA franchise." I don't see a section it could currently go under though; I'd either start a new section, something like "Other ventures," or rename the "Media appearances" section to "Other ventures" and include it there. Lizard (talk) 14:15, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- How about listing this in "Personal life" section with a new sub-section called "Ventures" or similarly? – Sabbatino (talk) 14:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- Is it really part of his personal life though? And if we're making a new section anyway we might as well make it separate. Lizard (talk) 14:30, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- If it is not part of his personal life then what is it? He bought a stake in the team. No corporation or company forced him to do that. In addition, if we were to add a completely new section then it should be called "Business ventures" or something like that. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:28, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Is it really part of his personal life though? And if we're making a new section anyway we might as well make it separate. Lizard (talk) 14:30, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- How about listing this in "Personal life" section with a new sub-section called "Ventures" or similarly? – Sabbatino (talk) 14:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Postseason stats
His 2012 postseason stats are wrong. He started 2 games, not 1. Which means all of his 2012 postseason stats are wrong too.
Overview section
Jerry Stockton and Sabbatino, before we all get into an edit war over these changes, let's discuss this. Jerry Stockton, "Overview" sections aren't used in Wikipedia articles. General overview information should be added to the lead of the article, not in a separate summary section in the body of the article. Regarding your content additions, I don't think anybody disagrees that Rodgers has been listed as one of, if not the greatest, quarterback to play football. However, this a a controversial statement that is not a universal fact, so it needs to be backed up by reliable sources and inline citations. It also needs to be written in a neutral point of view. Instead of "Aaron Rodgers is the greatest quarterback ever", a more neutral POV would be "Due to his high level of play over an extended period of time, many football analysts have ranked Aaron Rodger as one of the best, if not the greatest, quarterback to play in the NFL" with multiple inline citations after the statement backing it up. I can't speak for Sabbatino, but these are the concerns I have with your recent additions. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:22, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Well, I removed the "Overview" section, because that is as trivial as "Trivia" section would be. Moreover, all the records held by Rodgers are already listed in the "Awards and achievements" section. As for the statement about him being "considered by some to be one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time", I moved that to lede, because there is no better place for such statements, and Jordy Nelson, Johnny Unitas or Tom Brady pages are the best examples that such statements should be included in the lede. However, I do agree that this particular statement should be altered to a more neutral POV formation. – Sabbatino (talk) 16:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Sabbatino, just to clarify, I agree with the removal of the "Overview" section and the edits you made. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:41, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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GOAT 67.215.46.39 (talk) 15:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 15:46, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Career “high”
In the “transition to starter” section, it reads: “passing for 4,038 yards in his first season as a starter as well as throwing for 28 touchdowns and only 13 interceptions, which remains his career high as of the 2017 season.”
“only 13 interceptions, which remains his career high” reads awkwardly. It could be cleaned up by saying his most INTs in a season or it’s his career worst. Career high sounds like it was his best season, no?
Just my .02 HaulinBoats (talk) 00:53, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
- @HaulinBoats: Thanks for the suggestion. I have made edits to improve clarity. --Arryak24 (talk) 19:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
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Engaged to Danica Patrcik 216.98.173.4 (talk) 17:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP (talk • contribs) 18:24, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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38.126.187.199 (talk) 01:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done - I could not even begin to interpret the change you wanted. Please suggest, i.e. change x to y Ed6767 (talk) 01:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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Already done. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 10:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Not the MVP in 2020
The mvp hasn't been announce. Tell you butthurt Packers fans to quite editing his page with nonsense — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edaneker3 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- He was named MVP by PFWA.[11] It's another matter if people consider AP "the" MVP or not.—Bagumba (talk) 02:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- In the infobox at least, MVP awards should only be listed unqualified if there's agreement by multiple organizations, per WP:NFLINFOBOX. Since only the PFWA has awarded an MVP so far this year, it should really be listed separately (of course, this will be moot in a few days once AP almost certainly announces Rodgers as their MVP...) Zrowny (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Zrowny: It's strange that WP:NFLINFOBOX says to list selectors for MVP, but for none of the other awards. Now we have this dangling PFWA MVP on it's own line. Perhaps it was an oversight? Personally, I'm for decluttering the infobox and leaving the selector details for the prose.—Bagumba (talk) 03:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: I haven't been a part of WP:NFL so I'm definitely not very familiar with the history of the infobox, but it seems like that changed in 2018, and I can't immediately find any discussion to change this. Personally, I definitely think it makes sense to leave out the selector, certainly in cases where a player won it multiple times. Zrowny (talk) 04:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Zrowny:: I looked at the AP winners 2005–2019, and none of them itemize the selector in the infobox. I removed that from WP:NFLINFOBOX, and will combine the MVP at Rodgers' ibx to one line.—Bagumba (talk) 05:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: I haven't been a part of WP:NFL so I'm definitely not very familiar with the history of the infobox, but it seems like that changed in 2018, and I can't immediately find any discussion to change this. Personally, I definitely think it makes sense to leave out the selector, certainly in cases where a player won it multiple times. Zrowny (talk) 04:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Zrowny: It's strange that WP:NFLINFOBOX says to list selectors for MVP, but for none of the other awards. Now we have this dangling PFWA MVP on it's own line. Perhaps it was an oversight? Personally, I'm for decluttering the infobox and leaving the selector details for the prose.—Bagumba (talk) 03:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- In the infobox at least, MVP awards should only be listed unqualified if there's agreement by multiple organizations, per WP:NFLINFOBOX. Since only the PFWA has awarded an MVP so far this year, it should really be listed separately (of course, this will be moot in a few days once AP almost certainly announces Rodgers as their MVP...) Zrowny (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
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In the NFL records section it lists the record "Most seasons with 40 touchdown passes" twice. Once with (3) and once with (5) . I do not know which one is correct but logically speaking they cannot both be true. 2601:407:C400:2FF0:F1DF:F889:EFBF:2F80 (talk) 01:54, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done. Assuming you mean the infobox (sidebar on the right), you might want to read that again. One's "total touchdowns" and the other is "touchdown passes". There's a difference there. ◢ Ganbaruby! (talk) 06:29, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Aaron Rogers' performance in the 2021-2022 NFL Season is limited to the first game in this article, and six have been played. The current article leaves his position as a starter into question, and he has not only been a starter but the Packers have won five straight games since. If his performance this season is to be left blank until it is finished, I have no objection, but as of now it is framed and stated in an entirely incomplete manner. His participation and performance in the current season should either be erased or completed, as of now it is neither, to the point of subjective animosity. TSElliot323 (talk) 05:12, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:44, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
NBA champion
I am not sure that belongs in the career highlights and awards section for Rodgers. He is a minority owner. He isn't the prime owner. It's mentioned in his bio. Billy Krystal for instance has a ring for the Arizona Diamondbacks winning the World Series in 2001 but he doesn't have a career highlights box saying he is a world series champion (he played 1 day for the yankees too)
2019 season
How about adding he was rated 16th by his fellow teammates in NFL Top 100 Players of 2020?
- No. He's been #1 before and it isn't there.
Pat McAfee interview
Rodgers appeared on McAfee today and explained very logically and coherently why he decided that it was best for his health not to get the jab, including that he is allergic to ingredients in two of the shots, and the third shot (J&J) was pulled from the market because of its dangerous side effects. He also mentioned that he has already cured himself of the strongest virus symptoms with Ivermectin and that he sees the that most of the impetus behind the virus push is politically-motivated. I suggest adding a few sentences on all that to the article. https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/11/05/aaron-rodgers-interview-pat-mcafee-vaccination-status-covid-19-immunized-ivermectin-joe-rogan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.69.229 (talk) 22:57, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- His COVID situation has since been added.—Bagumba (talk) 04:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Lack of balance
While Aaron Rodgers is of course American, Wikipedia is international and should avoid taking a national point of view. Internationally, Aaron Rodgers is only known for his conspiracy theories about Covid-19 and his lies about his own medical status. This should be mentioned in the lede, and probably have it's own section in the body of the article. Jeppiz (talk) 11:46, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Jeppiz: I agree it can be expanded in the body, quite possibly into its own section given his recent sitdown interview from today. The lede is a representation of the body though, and until it is expanded, it should not be included in the lede. On a side note, I'm not sure it's fair to say Aaron Rodgers is "only known for his conspiracy theories about COVID-19" internationally. Surely international sourcing has covered more than just the COVID-19 bit concerning Rodgers. ––FormalDude talk 11:55, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- @FormalDude: I agree with all you say. Of course NFL fans around the world would know him bit (speaking as a European) NFL nevers hits the news here apart from Super Bowl, it's not among the 30 most covered sports. Having had a look at several different European media (in the UK, France, Germany and Sweden), the only articles about Rodgers are for conspiracy theories, lies about his status, and his Covid (anecdotally, I had never heard about him before, and I think it's safe to assume the same goes for most people outside the US). Jeppiz (talk) 12:10, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- A relevant guideline is MOS:LEADBIO:
What is most recent is not necessarily what is most noteworthy: new information should be carefully balanced against old, with due weight accorded to each.
—Bagumba (talk) 14:19, 6 November 2021 (UTC)- Jeppiz, please don't editorialize. Wikipedia is not a owned by Big Pharma. It is neutral and does not take a side on the vaccine controversy. 96.255.69.229 (talk) 17:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- To the IP: First, nobody except you has mentioned that, ethe rest of us are discussing media coverage. Second, you're wrong Wikipedia - read WP:NPOV. Wikipedia is neutral in the sense that we report scientific consensus. WP is in no way ever "neutral" between science and conspiracy theories. Jeppiz (talk) 21:59, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Jeppiz, please don't editorialize. Wikipedia is not a owned by Big Pharma. It is neutral and does not take a side on the vaccine controversy. 96.255.69.229 (talk) 17:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
"Internationally, Aaron Rodgers is only known for his conspiracy theories about Covid-19 and his lies about his own medical status" Your whole request is politically charged and pathetic. Aaron rodgers is probably known well for his American football achievements throughout the western world. Consider picking up a hobby. - IHeartVeronica
Nba Champion (As manager) Should be added to the career highlights section.
Because technically as a owner of the Bucks he got a ring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IHeartVeronica (talk • contribs) 02:32, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
2021 Season
"For this behavior he earned the nicknames 'Kaaron Rodgers' and 'Throw Rogan'."
Could be added to the current paragraph on the 2021 season. 172.92.177.175 (talk) 05:35, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Done. ––Formal
talk 05:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia where dumb irrelevant sh*t written by leftists is added willy nilly. -IHeartVeronica
Anyways how's the weather in Seattle Washington state? -IHeartVeronica — Preceding undated comment added 09:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Categories
Aaron Rodgers is currently placed in the Category:COVID-19 conspiracy theorists, but I'm not sure if he fits into that category. Just because he's unvaccinated doesn't necessarily make him a conspiracy theorist. 2001:569:55E1:8900:FDCB:2AC:B0CA:93B5 (talk) 03:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- You're right that being unvaccinated doesn't make him a conspiracy theorist, but he's not just unvaccinated. Multiple reliable sourcing are reporting how Rodger's has peddled several lies about COVID-19 and vaccines. I added a bit about it to the article just now. ––Formal
talk 03:58, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- I have removed the category for now. Please see WP:COPDEF, WP:BLPCAT, WP:DEFINING, and WP:OPINIONCAT, and the explanatory text of Category:COVID-19 conspiracy theorists. --Animalparty! (talk) 17:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2022
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This page has Rodgers listed as the 2021 MVP. He hasn't won the award yet so I'd suggest removing it for now. 2600:387:C:6B17:0:0:0:B (talk) 18:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
tagged as a conspiracy theorist
At the bottom of his page Rodgers is tagged as a conspiracy theorist. This seems a little harsh. He is a football player. We can outline the notable events surrounding Covid 19, but I dont think those actions warrant him being labelled a "Conspiracy theorist". Wikipedia has a tendency to label anybody a Conspiracy theorist these days. Its getting really dangerous to the public to misinform them like that. I propose to remove that tag. Thoughts? Seems to be breaching WP:REDFLAG/ WP:BLP Eruditess (talk) 23:18, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- I fixed that too, while I was looking at the page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Removed conspiracy theory line
We're going to have to do better than two sources saying he sounded like a conspiracy theorist, and a blog, to label someone a conspiracy theorist, or to say he was being called a conspiracy theorist in the media. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:29, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
"QAaron" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Mistake I found
The pick percentage in a season record belongs to Tom Brady he threw 28-2 in 2017 while Aaron threw 25-2 so unless Aaron throws 29-2 or 30-2 it’s still not his record no offense just something I found to be an error that slipped through tbh that needs correcting. 47.157.236.115 (talk) 09:12, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @47.157.236.115,
- I understand how you came to this conclusion, but you're looking at is as the touchdown to interception ratio, Brady actually does have the record in. Pick percentage is defined as "percentage of times intercepted attempting to pass". Check out the links to Aaron Rodgers Pro-Football-Reference and Tom Brady Pro-Football-Reference, they have a column specifically for this stat. Brady's best interception percentage was 2016, when he threw 432 passes and only 2 of them were intercepted, a rate of 0.0046%. Rodgers' best interception rate was in 2018, when he threw 597 passes and only 2 of them were intercepted, a rate of 0.0034%. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh it was a record for passes not intercepted in a season rather than ratio thanks for clearing it up at times it can be close and far away in differences have a great day. 47.157.236.115 (talk) 08:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)