Talk:Armenian Monastic Ensembles of Iran/GA1
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Reviewer: AHeneen (talk · contribs) 23:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | The prose is great and spelling and grammar are correct. |
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | No issues. |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | See problems below this table. |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | The article relies heavily on two sources, but they are reliable (UNESCO webpage and documentation). |
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2c. it contains no original research. | See problems below this table |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | Having checked the online references, there are no copyright or plagiarism problems. The article relies heavily on one UNESCO document, but the content in this article does not closely paraphrase that document and the wording in the article is sufficiently original. I can't check the offline references (each supports one sentence) and will rely on good faith that those sentences do not plagiarize the sources. |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
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3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | All images have appropriate licenses. There are no fair use images. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | |
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7. Overall assessment. | On hold. Needs references for some content |
These sections do not have appropriate references:
- At the beginning of the "History" section (not supported by reference 5):
The Armenian people are amongst the native ethnic groups of northwestern Iran (known as Iranian Azerbaijan), having millennia long recorded history there while the region (or parts of it) have had made up part of historical Armenia numerous times in history. These historical Armenian regions that nowadays include Iranian Azerbaijan are Nor Shirakan, Vaspurakan, and Paytakaran. Many of the oldest Armenian chapels, monasteries and churches in the world are located refrencewithin this region of Iran.
- This text was added by another user without any reference. I have found out that the text is reproduced from "Brief history" section of Armenia–Iran relations and Iranian Armenians and was introduced by User:LouisAragon here [1]. I have requested the user to fix a reference to the text that he added.
- Not supported by reference 1:
It was the second Armenian church to be built, following the Etchmiadzin Cathedral...
- It is on page 57 of the UNESCO reference 6. I have added this reference now.
- Not supported by reference 5:
During the reign of the Safavid dynasty in the 15th century, the monasteries prospered.
The reference says: "At the start of the 15th century, the new dynasty of the Safavids confirmed its protection for the Armenian Christian." That doesn't indicate that the monasteries "prospered".- Corrected.
@Nvvchar: Once the information above has a supporting reference, the article can be promoted. Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and eastern Turkey is one of the corners of the world I most want to visit (sadly, as an American, I can't visit Iran anytime soon) and the remote Armenian and Georgian churches and monasteries are a reason why, so it was a pleasure to review this article and learn about these sites! AHeneen (talk) 00:43, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- AHeneen Thank you for the review. Except for the first review note (please see my reply above) I have addressed the other two issues in the text.Nvvchar. 07:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- I decided to adjust the wording and add references. It now reads
The Armenian people arrived in northwestern Iran—known as Iranian Azerbaijan—in the 6th century B.C., likely from Phrygia, and converted to Christianity in the early 4th century A.D. The Iranian Azerbaijan region is home to the oldest churches in Iran.
I could not find web sources for the sentence with the historical regions, so I removed that sentence. I could not find a reference that the region is home to the oldest Armenian churches in the world, so I changed the sentence toThe Iranian Azerbaijan region is home to the oldest churches in Iran.
. I don't think it is a big deal to make this modest change rather than wait for a long time for this one little issue to be fixed. With that done, I am promoting the article to GA. Good work! AHeneen (talk) 17:25, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- AHeneenThanks for making the edicts and promoting the article. Nvvchar. 02:06, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- I decided to adjust the wording and add references. It now reads