Talk:Beesley's Point, New Jersey
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![]() | On 29 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Beesleys Point, New Jersey. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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Requested move 29 March 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 18:28, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Beesley's Point, New Jersey → Beesleys Point, New Jersey – State and federal listings for this place included in the article omit the apostrophe for the possessive here and in other places in New Jersey Alansohn (talk) 14:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 16:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Are there any secondary sources to show common usage or non-usage of the apostrophe? This is a common problem with possessive apostrophes in U.S. place names; it's often hard to determine the common name used by the people, because the government's hatred of punctuation drowns it out. O.N.R. (talk) 15:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: There may well be a good good case for this and it is possibly an important precedent, but so far there is little evidence. The official name is a primary source. Can we do better? Andrewa (talk) 16:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. It's a close call, but I think the "Beesley's Point" spelling is the WP:COMMONNAME by enough of a margin for me to oppose this move. I looked through the following Google News results and am tabulating my findings below:
- Search term: "beesleys point" new jersey
- 2 results using "Beesley's Point"
- 12 results using "Beesleys Point"
- 2 results where a paywall prevented me from seeing which spelling was used
- Search term: "beesley's point" new jersey
- 31 results using "Beesley's Point"
- 3 results using "Beesleys Point"
- 1 result using "Beesley Point"
- 2 results referring to a beach called "Beesley's Point" rather than the town
- 7 results where a paywall prevented me from seeing which spelling was used
- 3 links removed as duplicates (news articles that all linked to the same article in their respective "related news" sections)
- Search term: "beesleys point" new jersey
- The balance of results convinces me that the "Beesley's Point" spelling is more widely used; not only did it have a higher number of results, but those results were drawn from a broader range of publications. These findings are also corroborated by Ngram results, which also show the "Beesley's Point" spelling coming out ahead. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)