Talk:Bird's-eye view
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[edit]With an eye each on opposite sides of a bird's head, how does a bird see a complete, continuous and seamless image? Does each eye focus independantly of the other, and is each eye's individual line-of-sight independant between left-eye and right-eye? 59.167.80.176 13:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- These are questions perhaps better answered by binocular vision and field of view. -- Beland 07:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Expansion
[edit]I'll be tackling this soon. Historically bird's eye views were not perpendicular. The term predates aerial view, which generally appeared after the appearance of manned flight. Historically, bird's eye views were imagined views from above, as opposed to views "drawn from nature." We need to include some history. Maybe from Britannica?--Natcase 05:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, the current article is not much more than a dictionary definition (and of course Wikipedia is not a dictionary). Thanks for all your work on topography articles, this basic science topic is definitely benefitting your tender loving attention. 8) -- Beland 07:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- all too true! Do they really date from classical times? Wide landscape views certainly, but not I think birds eye (ie angled say 45%-70%). Jacopo de' Barbari's 1500 Map of Venice is probably the first true one - the long catalogue entry on it (no H1) in Jane Martineau and Charles Hope (ed), "The Genius of Venice", 1983, Royal Academy of Arts - says it was "unprecedented". Johnbod 22:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- The best general history I've found so far is in the Grove History of Art, and I recall there were classical mentions. Remember, it doesn't have to be based on mathematical projections; Bachmann's masterworks are pretty thoroughly cobbled-together. It just has to be a view "as imagined from a bird's eye." I'm thinking that isn't too much of a stretch for classical antiquity. The whole idea of viewing from above is the basis for map-like thinking, which was certainly present antiquity, not to mention universally. It seems to be built into our brains, or only a few synapse connections from there. Anyway, if someone beats me to Grove, that's great. I won't get to this at least until next week some time.--Natcase 01:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- all too true! Do they really date from classical times? Wide landscape views certainly, but not I think birds eye (ie angled say 45%-70%). Jacopo de' Barbari's 1500 Map of Venice is probably the first true one - the long catalogue entry on it (no H1) in Jane Martineau and Charles Hope (ed), "The Genius of Venice", 1983, Royal Academy of Arts - says it was "unprecedented". Johnbod 22:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The use of Birds-Eye view for aerial and satellite images is incorrect. The historical use of the word was to show the horizon of a geography, as seen through a bird's eye flying through the area. There needs to be a disambiguation in this respect. Birds do not fly straight into the ground (always) Here are some examples of antique birds eye view [1] [2] [3] Wikiwhatnot 11:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
World's Fair image
[edit]Here is a nice bird's-eye view image of the 1876 World's Fair. I'm not sure whether we're free to use the image or how to attribute it. The website says it's free for educational use, but (I think) requires lengthy attribution. Someone more experienced please handle this! -SharkD 01:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Here is another one. SharkD 01:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Gallery of images
[edit]I think the image gallery exhibits an extreme case of bird's eye view. Few birds can fly that high. Maybe some images taken from a slightly lower elevation could be found? SharkD (talk) 09:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Are the first three images (as viewd from an Aeroplane really bird's eye view pictures? They seemingly contradict with the articles definition of what is a true BEV picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolffystyle (talk • contribs) 09:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The picture of a bird sitting on a wooden roof is completely opposite to the meaning described here. The background is entirely sky! That's much more of a worm's-eye view than anything else. I would remove it, but I'm a bit wary of just deleting content. --Weeble (talk) 11:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I've cleaned up the gallery a little, removing two straight-down photos (not bird's-eye view, I think?) and adding a really good bird's-eye drawing of 1850 Paris. I think all the remaining images generally match the description. cmadler (talk) 13:10, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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