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closure date

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"stations between Bolton Great Moor Street and Pennington inclusive closed to passengers on 29 March 1954" - Railway Magazine June 1954 p.407 gave the date as 27 March. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnragla (talkcontribs) 06:05, 13 June 2015

@Johnragla: There are two principal conventions for describing the closure date of a railway station or line: "last day of service", that is, the last day on which scheduled passenger trains ran; and "first day without service", that is, the first day when passenger trains would have run if the service had not ceased. Many books, such as Butt (1995), use the "first day without service" convention, although there are problems with that, see the essay "Some Thoughts on Dates of Closure" in the lower left corner of "The London Underground: A Diagrammatic History" by Douglas Rose.
To the case in point: The Railway Magazine doesn't say that the line closed on 27 March; what it says is "on March 27, the last day of passenger services". Clearly, they are avoiding the ambiguity of "closed" that I have just described. 27 March 1954 was a Saturday, and 29 March was a Monday. If the final timetable for the line had no Sunday services, then since the last trains ran on the Saturday, the first day without service would have been Monday 29 March. This date is sourced to Disused Stations: Bolton Great Moor Street Station, and I have long suspected that this website observes the "first day without service" convention. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:59, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Missing references

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There are citations to "Holland" and "Pennington" which do not correspond to entries in the bibliography. Can anyone shed light on these? Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 16:07, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]