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In Dutch, having a preposition in front of the "meat" of your last name makes some rules apply. For example, saying purely someone's last name: "Born in Glen Ridge, New Jersey, Van Breda Kolff gained an affection for basketball while growing up in Montclair", "van" should be capitalized. Would his first name be included or, in another occasion, would he be referred to as "mister", it would read "Mr. van Breda Kolff", using lowercase. I am however not sure how this is changed in English. I know Americans that are very distantly Dutch descent will just capitalize it in all cases, but the Van Breda Kolffs decided not to, as Butch's father Jan was fully Dutch and probably never gained American citizenship. I'm not sure how rules apply. Should the names of him and his son be entirely capitalized, Van included, or should actual Dutch rules apply? KarstenO (talk) 16:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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