Talk:Canonization of Joan of Arc
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Divinely-sent
[edit]"The play represented her as a Divinely-sent savior guided by angels."
This is visible in the article, although I think that "divinely-sent" should be written this way, with a small starting letter (it isn't a noun, and also not the first word of a sentence). —Preceding unsigned comment added by NetRolller 3D (talk • contribs)
a user finds U.S. patronage offensive
[edit]A user placed a message on my talk page, with the following section header/subject: "The U.S. did not exist in Joan of Arc's time". The message was/is:
"Hi. I don't typically edit wikipedia but I found it particularly offensive to see your addition of "U.S." to the patronage of Saint Joan of Arc. I don't know if this was accidental by automating the process of adding "U.S." to every instance of women appointed to voluntary emergency service (called "waves" in USA) or some mistaken patriotic campaign but I'm sure the taste of this is ever more foul to non-americans.
"Since I'm unable to edit that page and don't care to register I'll just have to drop a line in discussion and hope someone picks it up before that blunder further tarnishes some non-american's view of us. (I can see it now... Large red-ink stamp "AMERICA WAS HERE THANK YOU" in stereotypical egotistical manner) 174.57.82.141 (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC) A with an Anonymous"
I then replied on my talk page, as follows: "Because 174.57.82.141 (talk) has not registered, I am unable to respond directly, so I hope that user will look at my talk page (here) to see my reply. You (the said user) say that you "found it particularly offensive to see [my] addition of "U.S." to the patronage of Saint Joan of Arc." I just looked at the revision history for Saint Joan of Arc; it shows that I have not made any edits to that page/article. Thus, I do not know why "U.S." and "women appointed to voluntary emergency service (called "waves" in USA)" was added to the patronage of Saint Joan of Arc, in the infobox on her article page. You may wish to click on the "Discussion" box at the top of the Saint Joan of Arc article and ask that the U.S. patronage be deleted from the infobox. Any editor who has "Saint Joan of Arc" article on their watchlist will then see your request and may give a reply to your request. God bless you."
Eagle4000 (talk) 00:58, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I just posted this at Joan of Arc:
- "Mea culpa. I just deleted "U.S." from the infobox, as I just discovered that I was in fact the user who added it (in Dec. 2009). When I first read the message on my talk page, I clicked on the link in the message for Saint Joan of Arc, not realizing that it was a redirect to Canonization of Joan of Arc. When I checked the revision history and saw that I had not made any edits, I made my replies on my talk page and the discussion page of Saint Joan of Arc (i.e., Canonization of Joan of Arc). When I realized that there was a separate page for Joan of Arc, I then left the above message. After doing so, I decided to check the revision history of Joan of Arc to see which user added "U.S." I then was surprised to discover that I was that user, back in December. As the other user noted, I was well-intentioned. I apologize for adding "U.S."; I must have "assumed" that WAVES and WACs were only U.S. units. I try not to be an "ugly American". Mea culpa."
- Eagle4000 (talk) 01:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Explanation for Changes to Canonization of Joan of Arc (Requested by User:Xxanthippe)
[edit]I did the following changes in my edits [1] :
- Replaced the first redirect line with inbuilt template {{About}} This will help in maintaining disambiguation pages. As plain text will mean that it is being linked from this article.
- Replaced wikitable markup with available template {{Infobox saint}}
- Also changed the infobox image from File:Joan of Arc-Notre Dame.jpg to File:Joan of Arc Canonization.jpg
- This edit retains all other attributes of the wiki table and brings uniformity with other articles.
- It removes prayer from the inforbox as per Template_talk:Infobox_saint#Prayer. If prayer is to be added, please start a discussion there.
If these edits are not constructive, I would like to know why. Else I request User:Xxanthippe or others to restore my edits. --Jayarathina (talk) 06:25, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking part in the WP:BRD process and the explanation. I think the photo is an improvement. I might make some minor changes. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:01, 28 November 2013 (UTC).
- Minor changes to photo or content? I don't have a problem with either. --Jayarathina (talk) 12:00, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- Xxanthippe, Please make a decision soon. The image is nominated for deletion, so to avoid it I added it to the infobox to show that it is used in an article --Jayarathina (talk) 10:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- If the image is a genuine one it should be kept and used. Unfortumately the image is obtained from a commercial blog. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:10, 29 November 2013 (UTC).
- Xxanthippe, I don't think the authenticity of the image is a problem. The actual source is mentioned as Jeanne d'Arc, grande histoire illustrée - Mgr Henri Debout - 4° ed. 1922 - vol.II, p. 680 à 734 It is not visible online on copyright grounds. Please see Bryn Mawr College library exhibit. It is a non commercial educational institution's library archives. Same image is kept there but is of low quality. All available Pictures of the event is here [2]. Numerous other site using this image: [3] [4] And any other problems in my edit? You previously said you want to change something in my edit? What are they? You can restore my edits and do those changes. --Jayarathina (talk) 17:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- That's fine, then. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2013 (UTC).
- Xxanthippe, So I can revert back to my changes? --Jayarathina (talk) 05:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
- That's fine, then. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2013 (UTC).
- Xxanthippe, I don't think the authenticity of the image is a problem. The actual source is mentioned as Jeanne d'Arc, grande histoire illustrée - Mgr Henri Debout - 4° ed. 1922 - vol.II, p. 680 à 734 It is not visible online on copyright grounds. Please see Bryn Mawr College library exhibit. It is a non commercial educational institution's library archives. Same image is kept there but is of low quality. All available Pictures of the event is here [2]. Numerous other site using this image: [3] [4] And any other problems in my edit? You previously said you want to change something in my edit? What are they? You can restore my edits and do those changes. --Jayarathina (talk) 17:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- If the image is a genuine one it should be kept and used. Unfortumately the image is obtained from a commercial blog. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:10, 29 November 2013 (UTC).
- Thanks for taking part in the WP:BRD process and the explanation. I think the photo is an improvement. I might make some minor changes. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:01, 28 November 2013 (UTC).
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