Talk:Cavalera Conspiracy
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Repetition
[edit]Too much of it in various parts. Still needs cutting.
Image
[edit]There's an official picture of this new band on Google and on the Roadrunner Artists page. But I'm not sure how to put it on here. Can somebody else do that for me? Dark Executioner (talk) 19:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner
Leaked
[edit]The album is fully leaked and is available on many torrent sites... --88.238.107.237 (talk) 12:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Ig(g)or Cavalera - spelling?
[edit]Hello! I need to establish a clear consensus on the issue of how to spell Igor Cavalera's name - he has for the past couple of years spelled it as Iggor. However, I saw an editor recently revert a change to Iggor from Igor and, when I asked him to provide evidence of consensus on the issue, all he could say was "It is simple: Iggor is not his name". As far as I'm concerned, this is entirely inadequate. Please go to Talk:Igor Cavalera and leave comments there.--Voxpuppet (talk • contribs) 11:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Genres
[edit]Cavalera Conspiracy is a groove/thrash band with strong hardcore elements. Death metal and metalcore dont belong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.253.21 (talk) 05:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree. They haven't played or recorded death metal since 1986's Morbid Visions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dk pdx (talk • contribs) 12:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]What are the sources for the lengthy narrative? Surely there must have been something written about these guys. The Cavalera Conspiracy website is hardly an objective source. Whoever cares for this band and has access to Terrorizer, NME, whatever, please provide some sources, or much of this material may be challenged and removed. Drmies (talk) 20:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Cannibaloki 20:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent. And now for inline citations! Drmies (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:Cavalera Conspiracy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: maclean (talk) 17:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Notes
- 2 images, both Creative Commons
In "Name", but he "couldn't resist doing the song with Igor." - is this quote necessary? Quotes should be used when the quote adds something extra (Wikipedia:Quotations). Otherwise we should just use our own words, like "he wanted to do the song with Igor".- I removed the quote, and rewrote the sentence as you suggested.--Cannibaloki 13:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- In "Inflikted", Special guests include bassist Rex Brown and Max's stepson Ritchie Cavalera. - do you know what Ritchie Cavalera did for the album? What makes them "special"?
- Ritchie Cavalera sang in a track. I removed the word "special," it was not a good choice to be used in that context.--Cannibaloki 13:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Date formatting, "August 16, 1996" v "25 March 2008" - the rest of the article switches between full date formats. Per WP:MOSDATE, "Dates in article body text should all have the same format."In "Inflikted", "they were considered an "inappropriate" band" - who considered them 'inappropriate'? or, who is this quote "inappropriate" being attributed to? And what specifically about them (or their act?) was 'inappropriate'?I provided the attribution here [1] and removed the passive voice quote by Max Cavalera. The passive voice allows the writer to avoid attributing responsibility for the verb ('deemed') to anybody. The stuff.co.nz source did not say the band was "inflammatory" or "banned". stuff.co.nz reported that a statement on the band's website by Max Cavalera claims that someone somewhere called them "inflammatory" and "inappropriate" and that Max Cavalera attributed that to somebody somewhere cancelling their shows on them, and that Max Cavalera equates that being "banned". --maclean (talk) 23:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)Well done, well done...--Cannibaloki 03:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
In "Inflikted", "...and have been forced to cancel their appearances..." - this is a strong statement. Who "forced" them? Is "have been" the correct tense?Can the last sentence in "Inflikted" be updated? "On 27 June 2009, the band announced new tour dates..." (e.g. "announced" → "performed at", and could you provide a location indicator like US? Euro? where?)- On Broadness (Criteria 3a), the lead seems to have some details missing from the article. What is this about Brazil
and France? What does Nailbomb have to do with anything?Groove metal?- Max and Igor are Brazilians. Nailbomb was a side project by Max and another guy, where Igor collaborated playing drums. See the field "Associated_acts" at Template:Infobox_musical_artist#Parameters. Explained.--Cannibaloki 03:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think the Brazil thing is important enough for the first sentence, especially since it isn't mentioned in the body and (from what I've read) doesn't seem important to the subject (Cavalera Conspiracy, opposed to its 2 of its members). I would change the first sentence to something more defining of the band as a whole like "Cavalera Conspiracy is a heavy metal supergroup that released one album, Inflikted. --maclean (talk) 03:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I need to explain, at least, from what country they are. I removed the countries links per WP:OVERLINK.--Cannibaloki 04:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Rewritten.--Cannibaloki 02:01, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- OK. -maclean (talk) 19:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks!--Cannibaloki 20:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- OK. -maclean (talk) 19:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Rewritten.--Cannibaloki 02:01, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- I need to explain, at least, from what country they are. I removed the countries links per WP:OVERLINK.--Cannibaloki 04:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think the Brazil thing is important enough for the first sentence, especially since it isn't mentioned in the body and (from what I've read) doesn't seem important to the subject (Cavalera Conspiracy, opposed to its 2 of its members). I would change the first sentence to something more defining of the band as a whole like "Cavalera Conspiracy is a heavy metal supergroup that released one album, Inflikted. --maclean (talk) 03:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Max and Igor are Brazilians. Nailbomb was a side project by Max and another guy, where Igor collaborated playing drums. See the field "Associated_acts" at Template:Infobox_musical_artist#Parameters. Explained.--Cannibaloki 03:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Lead Section
[edit]I have added the Lead too long tag on the article. The lead isn't too long, per se, but needs rewriting to remove all the detailed information which should be included the background section. Having an entire paragraph in the lead about Soulfly is too much, maybe mentioning that after Sepultura he went onto Soulfly before working with Igor once more? Drmotley (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
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