Talk:Château Pichon Longueville Baron

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This page was moved to "Château Pichon Longueville" which I have always considered to be the pre-1850 name of the undivided property which also included the current Château Pichon Longueville Comtesse de Lalande. It is always referred to as "Château Pichon Longueville Baron" or "Château Pichon Longueville (Baron)" by wine critics and the like. They may sometimes call themselves Château Pichon Longueville for short but its old-fashioned label actually writes the name as "Château Longueville au Baron de Pichon-Longueville" which doesn't seem to be used. I'd be willing to go with "...(Baron)" rather than "...Baron" and consider it something added as a disambiguation. Tomas e (talk) 10:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This entry needs work!

Tomas e's entry of September 2012 hints at some of the problems, but this article needs work.

First, the entry confabulates a château and a wine. There may be a château Pichon Longueville ( it does not show up on Google Maps...), but there is definitely not a wine Pichon Longueville Baron, regardless of wine world usage. The two need to be separated. In my comments below, I concentrate on the entry as it concerns a wine.

The wine, commercialized today by AXA Millésimes, has historically been, according to the label, Château Longueville/ au Baron de Pichon-Longueville. With all due respect to Le Guide Hachette de Vins (2019), there is no such wine as "Ch. Pichon-Longueville Baron" except in colloquial usage. There is a wine Château Pichon Longueville Comtesse de Lalande under separate ownership, but please note that there is not hyphen in the name of that wine.

The History section also seems confused. Le Guide Hachette says that the vineyard was originally assembled by Jacques de Pichon with no mention of a gift from his father-in-law. All this needs confirmation by source and/ or amplification. Perhaps Pierre Rauzan deserves the credit for establishing the vineyard property, but a source is needed for such a claim.

To return to the château, it seems that that was built by Raoul de Pichon-Longueville (according to Le Guide) after the 1850 division of the original property, of which he received two-fifths (70 ha.) as an inheritance, while his sister received the three-fifths (90 ha.) that would make up the Comtesse de Lalande property.

GianniBGood (talk) 20:53, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]