Talk:Cousin marriage/Archives/2021

Removal of lead picture "Charles Darwin and his wife Emma were first cousins".

This image has nothing to do with the definition of cousin marriage. It is a trivial fact that doesn't add value and should not be in the lead section. I would like to garner consensus to remove this picture. If one would really want to have that fact in the article, it would be a better idea to maybe have a "notable cases" section, but because this trend does not exist in any Anthropology of kinship articles, it should therefore be removed.

It would be ridiculous to have a trivial fact on every Anthropology of kinship article. One would not put an example of famous person A and B being in a "Joking relationship" or "Endogamous relationship" in the article (especially in the lead section!). None of the articles have a "Notable cases"-section nor an example at the top of the page.

I hope you all understand, cheers! Wretchskull (talk) 10:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

In Greece is illegal to marry your first cousin.

In Greece non a legal to marry your first cousin. The map is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.165.137 (talk) 10:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

The chart is wrong

Both parents, direct offspring and siblings share on average 50% DNA with a person, and thus have the same degree of consanguinity. The chart has erred on this point, and thus many of the numbers are wrong. Compare to the CC-chart here, which is correct: [1] – St.nerol (talk) 10:13, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

I have not spent much time on this, but I see that the info in this chart, used in the article and elsewhere in this or other versions, differs from the info presented in the table at Coefficient of relationship#Human relationships and in the similar table at Legality of incest#Degrees of relationship. For first cousin, for example, the chart used here gives the number 4, while the tables there give the number 3. It looks to me as if either correction or clarification is needed in one or more articles and, possibly, in one or more images. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 20:34, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

(redone) I have not spent enough time on this, which shows clearly in the strikeout above. However, taking first cousin as an example (and unless I have misread the items cited below):

• this chart (and the same chart in other graphics formats), used in this and other articles, says degree of relationship is 4.
• the table in Coefficient of relationship#Human relationships says degree of relationship is 4.
• the table in Legality of incest#Degrees of relationship says degree of relationship is 3.
• this source, as I understand it, says degree of relationship is 4.
• this source (pp. 62-65 and speaking of legal relationships) refers to two methods of determining degree of relationship which return different results.

I won't attempt to sort this out. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 20:34, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Archives fragmentation

This article has archives both at Talk:Cousin marriage/Archive 1 containing comments circa 2006–2012 and at Talk:Cousin marriage/Archives/* containing newer comments. The talk page headers show two different indexes for the archives – one of them shows only the Talk:Cousin marriage/Archive 1 archive and the other one shows only the other archives. One way or another, this situation needs fixing. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 13:55, 4 October 2021 (UTC)