Talk:Delian Society
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[edit]This page and all its members should be considered for deletion. It is pure self-promotion, by a small club. I used to be on their mailing list, and read their discussions about whether they could get into Wikipedia by writing articles about each other. You won't find a single reference to a reputable source.
I am new to this and if this isn't the right place to post this I apologize
Lamontaigne 18:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Follow-up by Joseph Dillon Ford, Founder and International Coordinator of the Delian Society, 4 July 2007:
The short Wikipedia entry on the Delian Society is intended solely to provide factual information about the first and largest international organization of its kind dedicated to tonal art music. Membership in the Society is both selective and egalitarian: its members represent nearly thirty countries on six continents, including distinguished music professionals, academics, publishers, recording technicians, and amateurs. It would be both inappropriate and unethical to purge an article of public and scholarly interest from Wikipedia merely to mollify a disgruntled former member of the Society who does not even disclose his/her actual identity.
The article in question provides no more than a concise historical background about the Delian Society and its artistic mission, together with a list of its core founding members, some of whom are the subjects of individual Wikipedia articles. Their qualifications and achievements are a matter of public record:
http://www.newmusicclassics.com/order_cynthian_palm.html
In many cases, their backgrounds are well documented by additional sources, both on the Web and in print media. They include individuals with educational or professional ties to some of the world's most prestigious institutions of higher learning, including the Curtis Institute of Music, Harvard, Indiana University School of Music, the Juilliard School, the Manhattan School of Music, Milan Conservatory, Oxford, the University of Quebec, and Yale. Some are internationally recognized artists whose work has been released on major recording labels. Others have been the recipients of significant awards acknowledging their artistic and scholarly talents.
The article in question, however, appropriately does not focus on the achievements of the individual members of the Delian Society, nor is it a vehicle to advance their personal interests. Readers are referred instead by means of a single link to the Delian Society Roster, which provides additional information about most current members and a series of links for those requiring further details about the Society's history, goals, projects, and programs. The information and materials available on these pages are distributed on a not-for-profit basis to the general public.
The Society was referenced in the following article just published by *Early Music America*, which source has been appended to the "Delian Society" article:
- Colburn, Grant. 2007. "A New Baroque Revival." Early Music America 13, no. 2 (Summer): 36-45, 54-55.
An external link to Artists Without Frontiers Magazine, an online periodical entirely independent of the Delian Society, has been added which further documents the history of the Society and its various activities.
- 'Tis better to ignore that pasquille.Galassi 17:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Notability, etc.
[edit]I have stubbed this article to all but the basic facts. It was one of the worst examples of padding and puffery I've seen here (and I've seen a lot). I have restored two references to it, which although marginally primary, are not published by the society itself. One is an interview with the founder. The other is written by one of the founding members. I have removed the COI tag, as the article no longer reflects COI wording. I have subscriptions to both Jstor and HighBeam Research and have searched extensively for further references without success. Consequently, I have restored the notability tag. The AfD closed as "no consensus", and there is such an utter dearth of coverage of this society in any other sources, not even minor mentions, that I felt it was warranted. If indeed it is "the first and largest international organization of its kind dedicated to tonal art music" as asserted above, it is extraordinary that no one (apart from its own members), seems to have noticed it or written about it. Voceditenore (talk) 17:36, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
It appears to be defunct, at least the web page is no longer functioning. Feydun (talk) 02:40, 11 April 2018 (UTC)