Talk:Doctor Sleep (novel)

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Title

Could someone move the article from Dr. Sleep to Doctor Sleep (novel)? That's the official title, according to the moderator of Stephen King's official message board. [1] Flax5 (talk) 20:03, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should actually probably be moved to Doctor Sleep and that article to Doctor Sleep (film), as the King novel will be the more searched for article. Jmj713 (talk) 20:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I moved the page without checking the talkpage or I would have discussed here first. Big oops, sorry. I was going by King's site about the upcoming publication. I moved this one back to the old location (since Dr. Sleep is definitely not the title of the book), moved the film to Doctor Sleep (film), and converted Doctor Sleep to a disambiguation page. The argument can be made that there is no primary subject, at least at this point in time. The novel is definitely the most viewed of the two pages though, with more than 21,000 views in July 2012. Doctor Sleep (novel), while serving as nothing more than a redirect, had more than 2600 views. The film had just under 700. Once the novel is published, I think it would be a good candidate to become the primary subject.

Regarding the discussion below, the publication is just a matter of time. If notability were an issue, take it to Afd and see what happens. WP:CRYSTAL refers to unverifiable speculation, it certainly does not apply to soon to be released novels, films, and etc. that are well documented and have multiple reliable sources. However, if my actions are objected to, they can be reverted. I didn't revert them back myself because this seems, to me at least, to be the most tenable solution at the current time. Altairisfar (talk) 06:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Sleep → Doctor Sleep
Doctor Sleep → Doctor Sleep (film)

– The new upcoming Stephen King novel is confirmed to be correctly titled "Doctor Sleep", not "Dr. Sleep", therefore, taking into account that the current article Doctor Sleep is occupied by a little-known film, the primary topic is certainly a new upcoming novel by a popular author, and will be even more so as publication nears. The Stephen King novel used to reside at Doctor Sleep (novel), but interestingly enough, there is also a little-known 1991 novel by the same title by Madison Smartt Bell. Jmj713 (talk) 02:36, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support disambiguation all three variants should lead to one dab page, with all instances being appropriately disambiguated. Dr Sleep / Dr. Sleep / Doctor Sleep either being a dab page or redirecting to one. Doctor Sleep (novel) being the novel, Doctor Sleep (film) being the film. A hatnote on the novel article leading to Bell's biography. 65.94.76.38 (talk) 04:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~comment~~: If the Stephen King novel hasn't been published yet, why is it necessary to move anything? If it does get published, and it has an article written about it, which satisfies the criteria to stay, that's when we shouold be having this conversation. And at that point, a dab page pointing to all three would be the logical option, NOT displacing the existing article to make room for the page on the new novel. Moonraker12 (talk) 20:51, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Having re-read the proposal, I've changed that to an oppose. There's nothing "primary" about a non-existent novel! Moonraker12 (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Notability

I've just twigged; it's this article that's about the non-existent book! in which case, does it meet the guideline for WP:NOTABILITY? Specifically, this, which says "Articles about books that are not yet published are strongly discouraged", as "WP is not a crystal ball". Moonraker12 (talk) 16:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. There is enough background information, the book is written, and has been officially announced, as well as covered in the media. Jmj713 (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2012 (UTC)16:30, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The link you've provided says that articles about unpublished books are sometimes acceptable if there are "multiple independent sources providing strong evidence that the book will be published, which sources include the title of the book and an approximate date of publication", which is the case here. It should also be noted that the book is being written by Stephen King, one of the most popular writers in the world. Flax5 (talk) 15:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Torrance article

The article Daniel Torrance, a character in this work, was nominated for deletion. The discussion can be seen here. Editors watching this page are invited to comment. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

Is there too much detail in the introduction? When the project was originally announced, when it was confirmed, where the novel's prologue first appeared, and where an early excerpt appeared, this is all good info that belongs in the body of the article. But to me, it seems to bog down the introduction. I bring this up here because I have not edited articles on novels before and I might be off base. Vivatheviva (talk) 15:33, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After not receiving a response to this question, I moved what I thought was material that didn't need to be in the article introduction. Vivatheviva (talk) 05:03, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Information about the sequel of the 1980 film

This new novel will be a film distributed by Warner Bros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.223.244.9 (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source for this information? Trivialist (talk) 23:42, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Film Adaptation Section

Shouldn't we add Kyliegh Curran on the casts mentioned on the Film Adaptation section of this page?

Her performance in the film adaptation won her Best Performance by a Younger Actor at the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, USA in 2021. Mollymiller (talk) 09:31, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the novel, not the film. She is in the cast list in the film article, which is linked here. That's sufficient. We only need to include the lead role here. Sundayclose (talk) 15:18, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]