Talk:Dominik Sokolović

Questions to the author

Governor Sheng I did quite a bit of work on your article to apply the proper style and format for a biography. There was a lot of redundant content that I removed to make the article more concise. There are still parts that are confusing to me and I can't check the citations as they are books in a different language, so I hope you can help explain to me here on the Talk page and I will then edit the article to incorporate the information more clearly.

Here's the basic outline I see in the original article:

• Sokolovic is born 1776 in Dubrovnik
• Ordained 1799 by bishop of Trebinje-Mrkan

• Bishop Feric dies, appoints Sokolovic as diocesan administrator
• Sokolovic serves as Duro Feric's secretary

• Some disagreement between Dubrovik & Trebinje-Mrkan over who should be named diocesan administrator of Trebinje-Mrkan
• Sokolovic appointed diocesan administrator 20 Feb 1820
• Sokolovic does visitations, Ottoman empire authorities & Austrians are suspicious
• Sokolovic bribes them and continues his work/visitations
• Dubrovnik is demoted to dicoese (from what former title?)
• Sokolovic names Maslac coadjutor of Dubrovnik
• Sokolovic promotes several local clergy
• Dubrovnik priests continue to become appointed by Austrian authorities as diocesan administrator of Dubovnik
• Death in 1837.

My question are noted below. Can you please explain a little further on each:

• The article has some conflicting dates -- the infobox indicates that Sokolovic was appointed in 1819, and the text indicates in paragraph 4 that the Holy See officially approved in Feb 1820. Which date is correct, or are both correct and relevant to remain separate like this? If both dates are relevant, it makes sense to explain why one might be appointed in 1819 but not approved until 1820.

• The article and infobox indicate that Sokolovic ascended to diocesan administrator in 1819, but it also says he was secretary to Duro, who was diocesan administrator of the archdiocese of Dubrovnik. Did Sokolovic serve as both the secretary and the diocesan administrator of Trebeinje-Mrkan simultaneously?

• Was there some other relationship between Trebinje-Mrkan and Dubrovnik? It's unclear why these two areas are so intertwined. I may have just misunderstood the text, but if you can explain the relationship (at that time in history) it would help.

• As maps change over hundreds of years, Dubrovnik is clearly identified, but I need verification if this place is Trebinje-Mrkan? If it is not, can you provide geo coordinates for the current-day location of Trebinje-Mrkan as it would be helpful to have a map showing the two areas and their proximity.

• At one point, Dubrovnik is demoted to diocese. What was the former seat/title of this area? Why was it demoted?

• Was Sokolovic's highest title "diocesan administrator" or did he in face ascend to become a bishop?

• Lastly, it appears that over his lifetime (and possibly longer) the "government" of Trebinje-Mrkan wished to appoint their own priests to the diocesan administation of Trebinje-Mrkan but were repeatedly unsuccessful. What is the significance of this? The article doesn't indicate why this is important?

Answering these questions to provide clarity would help me further improve the article as it's still a bit difficult to follow.

Thanks,

Tennis Anyone?Talk 13:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your first question the answer is next: Both dates are relevant. At the time, the Archdiocese of Dubrovnik and the Austrian government had the right to appoint bishops, which then had to be approved by the Pope. I'll try to find an explanation for the delayed approval from the Pope.

I will need to make additional research regarding the second question.

Regarding the third question, I'll make further elaboration on this.

Regarding the fourth issue, yes, you are correct, that is the location of the Cathedral of the Diocese of Trebinje-Mrkan in the town of Trebinje.

Fifth question. Before being demoted, Dubrovnik was an archdiocese, a centre of an ecclesiastical province, which is roughly a group of other dioceses. I can explain why this happend.

Sixth: Sokolović died as a diocesan administrator, never becoming a bishop.

Well, it was my view that it explains the broader context of the whole situation. The issue was about the influence. The Diocese of Trebinje-Mrkan previously had its own bishop.

Thank you for helping! --Governor Sheng (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Got it. I'll leave my edits as they are, and as you gather additional information, go ahead and add relevant facts. I think if you try to explain the "influence" with a little more detail, it would help overall comprehension. Good start & happy editing! Tennis Anyone?^Talk 19:03, 7 April 2022 (UTC)