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November 16, 2022Proposed deletionKept

Ludicruous bias[edit]

Everything about this page is ludicrously biased, and far from encyclopedic. Many of the sources are pure opinion pieces, and shouldn't be included in the first place. I can understand that Trump isn't popular with the Wikipedia community, but this doesn't read like a non-partisan account of his actions. Ravenofpoe1 (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"doesn't read like a non-partisan account" Who said anything about non-partisan? Per Wikipedia's policy, we summarise what we find in reliable sources. The sources are not required to be neutral or non-partisan. See the policy on Bias in sources:
    • "A common argument in a dispute about reliable sources is that one source is biased, meaning another source should be given preference. Some editors argue that biased sources should not be used because they introduce improper POV to an article. However, biased sources are not inherently disallowed based on bias alone, although other aspects of the source may make it invalid. A neutral point of view should be achieved by balancing the bias in sources based on the weight of the opinion in reliable sources and not by excluding sources that do not conform to the editor's point of view." Dimadick (talk) 17:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any "pure opinion pieces" should be attributed to their authors. Note, though, that articles that sound like opinion because you don't like them are not the same as actual opinion pieces. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article is tweeibly written. It comes off like a clear political agenda. Any consideration I ever had of giving another dime to wikipedia os gone. An encyclopedia should be non partican and non biased and this is full of highly skewed opinion and worded deliberatly to influence readers to the author's views. This should never be posted in any encyclopedia of any form. 195.252.213.236 (talk) 14:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
100% agree. I’m in the UK and have no dog in this fight, but when every single source is from a selection of politically slanted sources, it’s disgustingly obvious. It strikes me that the people who do this don’t care about truth or balance and rely on the people reading it to have low attention or low intelligence. It’s as condescending as it is shameless. 217.33.222.26 (talk) 14:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
every single source is from a selection of politically slanted sources You'll have trouble with that argument considering the following are used as sources: Hindustan News, Fox, Forbes, Deseret News, Associated Press, Haaretz, BBC, University of Pennsylvania Law Review, Staten Island Advance, USA Today, C-SPAN, Tampa Bay Times, and the National Review. O3000, Ret. (talk) 15:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
to nitpick: you can't really claim Fox isn't a slanted source.
On topic: I think what the UK guy meant to say is that blatant hit pieces might be getting used as credible sources, even though they may be mere speculation... such as using the Post when saying "directing the Department of Justice to go after domestic political enemies"... when it's clear as day just paragraphs later that the Post is aggressive towards Trump. I can't confirm or deny the authenticity of the claim because the article is behind a paywall. Drumpfshot (talk) 04:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV dispute[edit]

This entire page is horrifyingly biased and locked so other Wikipedia users cannot revert or edit. Everything in the heading is either a propagated lie or a completely libelous character assassination. WP:NPOV 174.61.219.3 (talk) 06:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality Tag[edit]

It should be obvious to anyone (I came to the conclusion after just a quick perusal as an slight right independent voter) This article seems outright biased towards the viewpoint of the Democratic Party and heavily uses sources that have long been known for outright media bias, with hardly any counter viewpoint and the few that do appear seem to indicate ignorance on their part.

The article clearly does not meet the neutrality standard and needs to be labeled as such, or preferably cleaned up to provide a more balanced viewpoint. Rhatsa26X (talk) 16:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How so? Be specific please. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You really don't need to look further than the references. I am seeing a huge amount, probably better than 50% coming from the Washington Post or New York Times. Let's start with the former, the Washington Post. This newspaper did not get it's repute as the Pravda on the Patomic for no reason at all. It has had a very far left viewpoint for much longer than I've been alive (almost 42 years) and is often openly hostile even to the Blue Dog Coalition (Conservative Democrats).
As for the other primary source, the New York Times, while they aren't as hostile towards Republicans they are still quite biased towards them.
What needs to happen here is to have content from at least some reputable sources that at least have an occasional good thing or two to say about Trump, like say Fox News, or other right leaning sources as a honest comparison, instead of a seems to be a constant war drum beat comparing Trump to Hitler or any other despot, and outright calling him an authoritarian when the same can apply to Biden and Obama as well.
Articles like this make Wikipedia look like a propganda tool and that was precisely what the neutrality policy was meant to prevent.
Rhatsa26X (talk) 20:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Washington Post and the New York Times are reliable sources. See WP:RSP. Fox News is unreliable for use in US politics: see WP:FOXNEWSPOLITICS. There's nothing further to discuss about the use of those sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neither is more reliable than the other. Washington Post is as reliable as the New York Post tabloid. If you don't accept Fox News, you should not accept the Post as a reliable source. Period. I want to see more objective viewpoints, not far left propganda, and until I do, this tag will stay. This site is supposed to be neutral, and I am an independent voter, and this article makes me seriously question the neutrality of Wikipedia, and I have been a Wikipedian for over 15 years and in that time, I've seen everything from GW Bush to Biden.Rhatsa26X (talk) Rhatsa26X (talk) 02:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you want is irrelevant. The Post and the Times are deemed reliable sources by the consensus of editors in the Wikipedia, and Fox News is not. If that is not you your liking, feel free to "vote with your feet," as they say. Zaathras (talk) 03:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"vote with your feet" aka "i have the authority and power here, so shove it and shove off". Cute and mature.
On topic: how are we going to pretend The Post is neutral when in the same page there's this clear indication of bias and borderline censorship? If nothing else, it's blatant animosity against Trump.
"The New York Post mocked Trump's announcement by relegating it to page 26 and noting it on the cover with a banner reading "Florida Man Makes Announcement". The article referred to Mar-a-Lago as "Trump's classified-documents library" in reference to the ongoing investigation regarding Trump's alleged improper handling of classified materials which he had brought to Mar-a-Lago following his presidency for as yet unclear reasons."
I've also looked through all the comments in this whole Talk page and it's clear gaslighting is going on. Drumpfshot (talk) 04:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page is filled with lies[edit]

How can you lock editing when most of this page is an egregious misrepresentation of what the campaign’s platform is? Trump has not promised to introduce a Jacksonian spoils system and use the DOJ to go after political opponents. Claiming an America First policy is “isolationist” is pure opinion. 128.92.5.83 (talk) 18:50, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Numerology[edit]

I don't have the authority to edit the article. I'm curious, does anyone else think the Numerology section is a little bizarre? Puffin123 (talk) 21:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incredibly bizarre. It was added earlier today and I removed it. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 13th event[edit]

Per WP:Not news, wait https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2024/07/13/developing-trump-rushes-off-stage-during-rally-after-noise/ Cwater1 (talk) 22:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2024[edit]

Just to add in his "Notable events" category that during a rally in Pennsylvania, it seems he has been shot after popping noises rang out about 5 minutes into his speech. It's a developing story Sendbobspicspls (talk) 22:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Not news Cwater1 (talk) 22:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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