Talk:El derecho de nacer (1981 TV series)

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The result of the move request was: move, especially in light of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)#Capitalization of expressions borrowed from other languages. -- tariqabjotu 18:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

El Derecho de Nacer (TV series) → El derecho de nacer (TV series) – Correct name, in Spanish the substantives aren't capitalized --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 05:09, 19 July 2013 (UTC) Vivaelcelta {talk · contributions} 13:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: This is the English Wikipedia, where MOS:CT presumably applies, even if the words are not English words. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:31, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment MOS:CT begins "Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization" - this is unnecessary capitalization as the series isn't capitalised in some running text examples : Aníbal González Love and Politics in the Contemporary Spanish American Novel - Page 157 has "An ironic account of the influence of El derecho de nacer on the Mexican radio serials is offered by Vicente Leñero in his chronicle “El derecho de llorar.” By a curious coincidence, the Colombian TV chain Caracol Televisión produced a soap ..." However Sources in English in Popular Culture Characteristically Overcapitalize Television and Film and Song Titles, Including Mexican Ones. This is Just The Way It Is. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's not MOS:CT you were quoting – it's MOS:CAPS. MOS:CT is the section specific to composition titles. But I just noticed for the first time that MOS:CT begins with "In the English titles of compositions ..." and it seems that were are not exactly dealing with an "English title" here, so I don't know what to do. But I suggest that for the Sake of consistency, we Capitalize as if The Title was in english. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:00, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NCCAPS recommends following capitalization of foreign-language titles based on English-language reliable sources. Erick (talk) 12:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Yes, this is the English Wikipedia, but if someone really wanted go English all the way, he should translate the title. Since we're not doing that, follow the convention of the language that the title is in. --Article editor (talk) 02:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment – I feel it's strange to apply English capitalization rules to Spanish words. Either use English capitalization on an English translation or Spanish capitalization on Spanish. --Article editor (talk) 02:26, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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