Talk:Elizabeth Walker

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Excerpt from User talk:Roman Spinner#Redirects April 14, 2014 exchange regarding dab pages. For historical purposes and as topic for possible future discussions, the relevant portion concerning this dab page is reproduced below:

"And now, to your second point regarding having to spend several hours resolving the edits I made to Elizabeth Walker. I am mystified as to why it should have taken so long. If you had been satisfied with the five previously-existing entries on the page (as it appeared prior to my edit [last edited in April 2011]) a revert would have taken one second. If you accepted my addition of eleven new names (expanding from five to sixteen entries), but decided to delete the descriptive write-ups, the cut text function should have taken you less than a minute, and if you decided to eliminate some of the entries, that also should have taken no more than a few seconds. Incidentally, I am puzzled by some of your choices: why delete Elizabeth Claire Walker of the Los Angeles Ballet, but retain Elizabeth Walker of the New York City Ballet or why change Elizabeth Neff Walker to Elizabeth Walker (author), when a glance at the plentiful on-line reproductions of the covers of her books confirms that her pen name is, indeed, Elizabeth Neff Walker. Also, why keep Elizabeth Harrison Walker among the main entries, but consign Elizabeth Pupo-Walker of Tuatara (band) to "See also"? After all, some women hyphenate their maiden name and married name (or use a hyphenated family name), while other women use their family name as middle name without a hyphen (Hillary Rodham Clinton). Those who prefer to use a hyphen should be treated equally with those who do not, instead of being banished to "See also". While on the subject, why delete the family name of writer Elizabeth Oakleigh-Walker (pen name Elizabeth Buchan)? The birth names of numerous notable personalities appear as a standard feature in numerous disambiguation pages. An entire disambiguation page (Myrna Williams) was, in fact, created for only two entries: Myrna Williams (politician) and Myrna Adele Williams, the birth name of movie star Myrna Loy. As for Tippy Walker, although she was "nee Elizabeth Tipton Walker", her alternative stage name (billed more frequently than "Tippy Walker") was Elizabeth Walker (actress) (she never used "Tipton" as part of her stage name). Furthermore, why delete actress Liza Walker? I can only presume that you may have intended to include her either in your Lisa Walker or your Eliza Walker disambiguation pages, but since you haven't done so as of this writing, I am at a loss for an explanation. On a side note, since there are only two Wikipedia entries for notable women whose middle name is "Elizabeth" and surname is "Walker", Mabel Elizabeth Walker and Susan Elizabeth Walker, I would have thought they might be allowed to remain under "See also" for the sake of completeness, but I will leave such decisions for others. Finally, you inserted a duplicate entry under "Politicians": Liz Walker (politician) and Liz Walker, political candidate for Newton—North Delta are the same person. The redirect, Liz Walker (politician), which I did not create, should not be used since it discourages the creation of an article. My five-person list (under section header "Political figures") had public officials and a member of a political dynasty who were not all politicians:

• Mabel Elizabeth Walker (1889−1963), American public official, known as First Lady of Law, or "Prohibition Portia"; served as U.S. Assistant Attorney General from 1921 to 1929, handling Bureau of Federal Prisons as well as violations of Volstead Act and tax collection; highest-ranking woman on Federal level
• Elizabeth Harrison Walker (1897–1955), American lawyer and publisher whose political dynasty credentials as daughter of President Benjamin Harrison and his second wife, Mary Scott Lord Dimmick, extended into her own marriage to James Blaine Walker, grandnephew of 1884 presidential candidate James G. Blaine
• Susan Elizabeth Walker (born 1951), British-born Australian political figure who represented electorate of Nedlands in Legislative Assembly of Western Australia between June 2001 and September 2008; member of Liberal Party since 1978, she was defeated in 2008 after running as Independent
• Liz Walker (born 1954), Canadian environmentalist who, as candidate of Canada's Green Party, has contested British Columbia's federal electoral district Newton—North Delta in 2008 and 2011 Canadian federal elections; Chemical Technician at BC Hydro's Research and Development Laboratories during 1980s
• Lisa Walker (born 1977), English Conservative councillor for Bramhall North (Stockport electoral ward) Metropolitan Borough Council; has chaired Bramhall & Cheadle Hulme South Area Committee and served on Corporate Parenting Working Party, Council Meeting and Licensing, Environment & Safety Committee

As another point, I doubt the usefulness of creating multiple sub-disambiguation pages (Lisa Walker, Elisa Walker). Such and other names (Beth, Lizbeth) are contained within the core name and, even if the given name is Lisa and not short for Elisabeth, the name is still basically the same. Analogous arguments may be made for numerous names which have variants (some women are actually named Kathy, Cathy or Kate, rather than as nickname for Katherine) or Ed, Edwin or Edward or Al, Alan, Allen or Alfred. Such sub-disambiguation often results in duplication and confuses, rather than aids, users."

—Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 16:35, 24 February 2016 (UTC)