Talk:Ellingham Hall

Old edit history, and will an article or a Dab be moved over the accompanying Rdr?

   I reproduce here (without the links) the current history of Ellingham, believing that

1. that history will probably be harmlessly deleted in furtherance of a needed rename(/move), and
2. an accessible record of the info that the history carries may at some point alleviate confusion about the history of the page that is likely to be moved to the Ellingham Hall title.

• 19:46, 18 December 2010 Prioryman (45 bytes) (←Redirected page to Ellingham Hall (disambiguation))
• 19:22, 18 December 2010 Xqbot m (37 bytes) (Bot: Fixing double redirect to Ellingham Hall, Norfolk)
• 00:27, 18 December 2010 Prioryman (45 bytes) (moved Ellingham Hall to Ellingham Hall (disambiguation))

The related chronology is as follows:

1. Ellingham Hall was created on the 16th (at 21:55) as a 2-entry Dab page, w/ both entries red-linked.
2. A page on the Ellington Hall that's in the news was created (22:07) as Ellingham Hall (Bungay), (and BTW later renamed to Ellingham Hall, Norfolk), converting one of the Dab's entries link to blue the link from one entry of the Dab.
3. On the 18th (00:27, in the above box) the creator (improperly) moved the Dab to Ellingham Hall (disambiguation).
4. Another editor (19:15) noted (19:15) that page's unacceptability as a Dab (due to its single blue link), and rewrote it as a Rdr -- despite the reservation of any such title for either a Dab, or a Rdr to a Dab.
5. A bot noted (19:22 -- box) the move-tool Rdr at Ellingham Hall as targeting the new Rdr at Ellingham Hall (disambiguation), and bypassed it to target Ellingham Hall, Norfolk.
6. The first-mentioned editor created (19:45) Ellingham Hall, Norfolk, and ...
7. ... (19:46 -- box) reverted the Rdr, so it again targets the formerly non-compliant single-red-link Dab (by then a two-blue-link one).

The net effect is that the Dab is now compliant, but still mislocated: As it stands, there is no primary topic, so in theory Ellingham Hall should hold the Dab, with Ellingham Hall (disambiguation) a Rdr to it. (If we determine that there is a primary topic -- say the currently newsier hall in Norfolk -- then the Dab belongs where it is, and it is instead the corresponding (primary topic) article that should be moved over the existing Rdr at Ellingham Hall.
   I've communicated on their talk pages with the two human editors that are implicitly mentioned in the above, and will now invite them to participate in this discussion. Since Ellingham Hall currently functions acceptably, I don't think there's any need immediately to accomodate either the current situation or the potential one, by prematurely and awkwardly doing the deletion it will later need in either case. --Jerzy•t 04:42 & 05:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)