Talk:Ethnic groups in Latin America
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Questionable material badly sourced
[edit]I removed the following from the lead of the article:
Europeans/Whites are the largest single group, and along with people of part-European ancestry, they combine to make up approximately 80% of the population,[1] or even more.[2]
The reason is because this information was somewhat questionable. Most countries in Latin America are predominantly mestizo, with some exceptions (like Uruguay or Argentina). I checked the references, and the "World Factbook" information was just a list of separate countries, nothing about 80% or predominantly white. The Lizcano article is rather large, but I didn't see anything specific. If someone can back this up with some page numbers from that article, please re-add it.Editfromwithout (talk) 23:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ "CIA — The World Factbook -- Field Listing — Ethnic groups". Retrieved 2008-02-20.
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
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And "mestizo" means that the person is half white, half indigenous. Genetically, the most prevalent anscestry in latin america is white, even though it's not so common to find people who would be considered white by european or north american standards (they do exist though and are a great proportion of the population of countries like Brasil, Uruguay, Argentina, Costa Rica, Cuba and Mexico). Nickgaz (talk) 15:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Wrong interpretation of the source: "The Chilean Gradient Sociogenética social and ethical implications"
[edit]There is a sentence in the article that says: Amerindian-European admixture is dominant in countries such as Chile. A genetic resource concluded that Amerindian ancestry is found in both the high and low socioeconomic stratum of Chilean society, mainly on the maternal side, while European ancestry is dominant on the paternal side.
- 1) The source Sociogenética The Chilean Gradient and social ethical implications is very useful for sociological analysis Sociogenética gradient, but the figures quoted in it (those that give the average course of mixing of various social strata) are views of the author, and not based on genetic works such as those made by other sources, such as the source of the Human Genetics Program at the University of Chile
- 2) Another point: The study used as blood donors at 150 persons San Jose Hospital in Santiago de Chile. That is, is very biased, and although that serves to demonstrate segregation between social groups and that no significant differences with the "Hispanics" in America, does not state that these data are indicators of genetic contributions relating to indigenous and European ancestors of the Chilean population.
- 3) "The use of mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome testing refer only to a line of ancestors each, becoming the ancestors of other invisible lines. Most Chileans are 30% mixture by their ancestors native aboriginal (Amerindian women who were married with the Spanish conquerors). According to this study, the degree of Amerindian mixture in the middle class is at 23.7% and 37.1% in the lower class [1], which confirms that the degree of mixing depends on the social level.--Ccrazymann (talk) 17:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
2014 autosomal DNA study on Chile
[edit]The samples were collected in Arica, but they came from all of Chile. "A partir de 2011, 923 voluntarios oriundos de las 15 Regiones de Chile, residentes temporal o permanentemente en Arica, con un promedio de edad de 28,05 ± 9,37 años y pertenecientes a los niveles socioeconómicos A y B (4%), CA y CB (60%) y D (36%)15 fueron invitados a participar en este estudio mediante charlas, folletos y afiches." http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-98872014000300001&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en "Beginning 2011, 923 volunteers from all 15 regions of Chile, living temporarily or permanently in Arica, with an average age of 28,05+-9,37 and belonging to social classes A and B (4%), CA and CB (60%) and D (36%) were invited to participate on this study".Grenzer22 (talk) 10:26, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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Reverting problematic additions
[edit]@Zaquezipe: sorry, but I've reverted your recent additions to this article. There are more than a doezn undefined references in these new additions, so most of the material is essentially unreferenced. Feel free to bring the material back, but please make sure it's properly referenced without errors. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, I will reference the material properly. The problem is that I took them straight out of their respective Wikipedia pages, such as Afro Latin Americans and white Latin Americans. Zaquezipe (talk) 03:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by "problem". If you copy material within Wikipedia, make sure you're familiar with Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia which explains that your copies must be properly attributed. I can't see where you've done that. -- Mikeblas (talk) 15:14, 17 March 2024 (UTC)