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A fact from Felix Eberty appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Felix Eberty was called "an original and ingenious person" by Albert Einstein?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 10:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the 1846 book The Stars and World History by Felix Eberty, which contemplated a faraway observer seeing "the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham", inspired a young Albert Einstein?

Source: "By the time that Felix Eberty, a German jurist and amateur astronomer, anonymously published “The Stars and World History,” in 1846, it was well known that light had a finite speed... Eberty was particularly fascinated by what this delay meant for a faraway observer of our planet. Perched on a distant star, he wrote, such a person might “see the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham.” Furthermore, by hopscotching across the cosmos, “he will be able to represent to himself, as rapidly as he pleases, that moment in the world’s history which he wishes to observe at leisure.” Eberty had witnessed great gains in the speed of transportation and communication during his lifetime, and he believed that humanity might soon be travelling even faster than light.

Among the impressionable young Germans who read Eberty and Bernstein was one named Albert Einstein."

The New Yorker

- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Penguin History of Modern China

Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 134 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 21:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The article is sufficiently long and new, has citations throughout, and appears to be written neutrally. I AGF on offline and German language sources. QPQ is done. There is some trouble in the references with a citation template, and then there's the matter of the hook. The hook says Eberty "inspired" Einstein, but the above quote does not verify that, only that Einstein read Eberty. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that the 1846 book The Stars and World History by Felix Eberty, which contemplated a faraway observer seeing "the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham", was read by a young Albert Einstein? Thriley (talk) 18:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Muboshgu: Does the above satisfy your concerns, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 21:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to fix this up a bit more. The article is mostly a translation of the German Wikipedia article. Will be done in less than 24 hours. Thriley (talk) 23:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: Are you done with this?--Laun chba ller 12:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Yes. Sorry again for the delay. Thriley (talk) 16:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You aren't. I just went in to check the article myself and you have an error in ref #20. And I strongly suspect that may have been what @Muboshgu: was referring to. And I think that single-sentence paragraph should be merged and the lead lengthened.--Laun chba ller 17:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article now says which are considered to have had an influence on Einstein, which is not great. Alt 1 is not either, I'm sure Einstein read a ton of books. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2... that Felix Eberty, who wrote an 1846 book which contemplated a faraway observer seeing "the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham", was called "an original and ingenious person" by Albert Einstein in 1923? Source: "Albert Einstein wrote a foreword for a new edition in 1923 in which he called Eberty "an original and ingenious person"" New Yorker Thriley (talk) 04:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I won't assess any hooks until the article issues are remedied. I will say that ALT2's cruising for a pruning whether it checks out or not.--Laun chba ller 05:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hook tops 200 characters – Thriley, could you write a shorter one? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2a: ... that Felix Eberty was called "an original and ingenious person" by Albert Einstein? would be my suggestion.--Laun chba ller 21:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This hook is good. Thank you! Thriley (talk) 14:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still think the lead should summarise the rest of the article before I approve it; Leeky is very welcome to override me.--Laun chba ller 16:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

per Launchballer – i don't see that as a reasonable DYKCOMPLETE requirement, but if they're cool with the rest of the article, then it's good to go. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]