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changed to vertical because of the resemblance with the flag of the Netherlands

Should that not be "because of the resemblance with the flag of Germany"??

The colours show no resemblance to those of the Netherlands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.165.149.160 (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2007

Must be correct, I've changed it now. Shame it took so long for someone to notice even after you'd pointed it out, but these days Wikipedia's admins seem to spend all their time spying and sleuthing and trying to frighten away good contributors instead of actually editing the encyclopaedia. *sigh* • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 00:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

they changed the flag in 1830. the German flag has been black-red-gold since 1919. see here Flag_of_germany#Weimar_Republic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.246.7.159 (talk) 16:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's not quite correct (or rather, it is correct, but misleading) - the black/red/gold triband and variations thereupon were previously used as the de facto flag of the German Confederation for much of the 19th Century (from 1815 to 1848 and thereafter in the 1850s and 1860s), covering the exact period mentioned for Belgium. Have a look at that Flag of Germany citation you gave and scroll up the page a bit. 84.92.8.221 (talk) 16:20, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The flag of the German Confederacy was rarely seen, as the Confederacy had little role. The flag of each German state was much more prominent, making it unlikely to disturb the use of the Belgian flag. Furthermore, the Belgian tricolour was actually first flown in 1790 during the Brabant Revolution, which indeed makes it older than the German flag.94.109.73.178 (talk) 08:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The unusual proportion

There are several mentions that the official proportion of the flag, an unusual 13:15, is of unknown origin. I am a Brusseler and it is often said in my city that the original proportion is due to the very first flag of Belgium: it was hastily made out of curtains by a woman in a shop near the Brussels Grand-Place, à la Betsy Ross if you want. Since this first flag was made out of whatever fabric they could find, it had weird proportions. However, as a tribute to this first flag, the authors of the Belgian constitution decided to write its exact dimensions as the official ones.

Now the problem is, I have no written sources to support that. All I can say is, this is the story we tell in Brussels. And let me tell you that, contrarily to what is written in this article, the flag is very often flown in Belgium in its unusual proportions, and it is very familiar to Belgian people. It even goes farther than this: on the Brussels City Hall, the European flag is flown next to the Belgian flag, and both are of 13:15 proportion! 94.109.73.178 (talk) 08:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

About the city hall, it seems plausible [1]. The rest, I must disagree. I used to live in Belgium, and I can count on one hand the number of times I saw a 13:15 flag; almost all were 2:3 or similar. That, and most Belgians I asked about it had no idea their flag was supposed to be nearly square. Oreo Priest ^talk 20:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2:3

I removed references to the 2:3 sized flag being in more common use, as it is not supported by the source given. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 20:15, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't belive that black is black

I by myself can see the Belgian flag as blue-yellow-red. Naming a colour black is typical error the men working in informatics.

According to the Munsell colour system all colours are blacks that value less than 1 (one). According the Munsell renotation these colour signed az N (Neutral).
All the standards have to have tolerances. If I use the computers' RGB system all colour may be black when the numerical value less than 10.
A colour can be black even it has coloured part that hardly recognisable. ZJ (talk) 09:20, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Are the RGB and hex triplet lines in the color table original research?

Are the RGB and hex triplet lines in the color table original research? They are not sourced to a reliable source. If they are just the creations or conversions of a WP editor, we should remove them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2:3 ratio is an official flag

Hello, I live in Belgium and I've seen that the 2:3 standard is commonly displayed on town halls and other government buildings see below:

Town hall of Pepinster.
Former courthouse Bruges
City hall of Nieuwpoort
City hall of Mechelen
City hall of Hasselt

If the common 2:3 ratio flag is widespread on governmental buildings then that means the 2:3 flag is an official flag, so the text should change. Tomaatje12 (talk) 15:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is certainly the most common version. However, it does seem that the 13:15 ratio - or, technically, a 2.6m x 3m size - is considered "correct". —Brigade Piron (talk) 15:52, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 2:3 flag is flown by governments in Belgium. That makes it an official flag, am I correct?Tomaatje12 (talk) 16:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Or, instead of doing original research, we could refer to reliable sources, which this article already does. See WP:V. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you get me but that's ok. The 2:3 ratio is classified as "civil use". However the wikipage on "civil use" of flags tells the following:

"A civil flag is a version of the national flag that is flown by civilians on nongovernmental installations or craft. The use of civil flags was more common in the past to denote buildings or ships not manned by the military."^[1]

The Belgian 2:3 flag is commonly flown by governments. This contradicts with the definition. Hence I insist 2:3 is also an official flag.Tomaatje12 (talk) 16:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Kamath, Anjali (2009). Flag Book. Mumbai: Popular Prakashan. p. 5. ISBN 978-81-7991-512-7.

References

Bold title

@Jonesey95 Due to the descriptiveness of this title, I think that the article should not be bold. If it is made bold, the lead has to include the name of Belgium and national flag twice if it wants to link them (I think the article should). Based on MOS:REDUNDANCY, this is the way to go. It seems that you disagree, so in case you still do I'm going to request a WP:THIRD. In case any other editor is reading this, my version looks like this PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no redundancy in the phrase "national flag of Blegium". I don't see this as a compelling reason to not have the primary topic of the article in bold, per the straightforward guideline at MOS:BOLDTITLE. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[Kamath2009-1] Kamath, Anjali (2009). Flag Book. Mumbai: Popular Prakashan. p. 5. ISBN 978-81-7991-512-7.

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