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Requested move

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below and WP:NC. Dekimasuよ! 01:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Flag of the Islamic StateFlag of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – or to Flag of ISIL. The main article is at Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and related articles include Timeline of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant events, 2014 military intervention against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, 2014 ISIL beheading incidents, List of wars and battles involving the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, Military of ISIL, Timeline of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant events. It's not a nation but see also: Category:National flags. Which title should be used? Gregkaye 12:31, 1 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the title "Flag of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" is too long, hence the reason why I simply called it "Flag of the Islamic State".
For example:
Islamic State of Iraq
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

Notice the patten? Just like "Flag of the United Kingdom", "Flag of the United States", etc... Using the country's prefix instead of the full name. And yes the Islamic State is technically a quasi-nation, albeit an unrecognised one. Similer to the "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan", also ruled by a terrorist organisation – the Taliban. TRAJAN 117 (talk) 13:45, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most importantly many people especially in political and Islamic communities do not accept the validity of an Islamic State claiming authority over all of Islam. See search on: "so called Islamic State" OR "self described Islamic State" OR "self proclaimed Islamic State" or even on Ban-Ki Moon's "Non-Islamic Non-State". I sympathise with the suggestion by 67.70.35.44. Gregkaye 14:44, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This flag was first adopted[when?] when the group was name Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) and has been continued to be used through more recent name changes. As per my proposal here under "Proposal - use names that are contextually appropriate:" I suggest that when referring to the group through multiple incarnations that ISIL is the preferred name. If this flag was only used after renaming to "Islamic State" then the current title would be more appropriate~Technophant (talk) 21:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support to Change Title: To be consistent with the other articles about ISIL. Every attempt to call this group "Islamic State" has failed and we should not have to discuss the same thing over and over. Legacypac (talk) 22:25, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, in connection to various politically charged topics it may be necessary for admin to make clear decisions based on policy arguments presented rather than solely relying on !vote. Gregkaye 16:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not only the Islamic State's Flag

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This flag is used by a multitude of Jihadist groups, including al-Shabaab, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and Boko Haram. Gazkthul (talk) 22:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Deletion

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We already have an article on this flag. This should be speedy deleted. What else can we say about this flag not said just as well at Black Standard? Legacypac (talk) 22:28, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Legacypac proposed CSD:A10 which was rejected then replaced with WP:Prod.~Technophant (talk) 02:00, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that I have selected the correct template now. Legacypac (talk) 08:38, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted

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This article was deleted as per discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flag of the Islamic State.

Gregkaye 17:29, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]