Talk:Foxboro station/GA1
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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 01:34, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Howdy there! I should have my first comments up within a few days. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:34, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Let us begin.
- @SNUGGUMS: Still interested in the review? Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:57, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes indeed, and now I'm continuing! Apologies for the delay. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]- When there's no credible evidence suggesting otherwise, I'll assume good faith that File:Foxboro MBTA station, Foxborough MA.jpg is indeed the uploader's own work.
Lead
[edit]- You have three close uses of "via", which feels like a bit much. Maybe replace one of them with "through" for diversity?
- Hmm. I think the parallel structure of "via" in the lede and Station design sections is justified here. I understand the desire to avoid repetition of words, but I think precision overrules that - "through" doesn't have quite the same meaning as "via" in this case.
More to follow later. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:03, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Station design
[edit]- File:Underpass at Foxboro station, September 2020.jpg is A-OK to use
- Maybe I'm missing something, but I couldn't find any mention of Framingham Secondary in either of the attributed links while this doesn't seem to include stops in between Foxboro and Providence :/
- Done Added a cite that explicitly mentions the Secondary, and added an archive version that explicitly lists stops (under the individual game drop-downs).
I'll get to the "History" after the above is addressed. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
History
[edit]Previous stations
[edit]- Unfortunately, the file source for File:Foxboro station 1912 postcard.jpg gives me an error. To aid in verifying authenticity, can you archive that or find something else to use in place?
- Unfortunately, eBay links do tend to go dead. That fortunately shouldn't affect the PD licensing status of the image - that style of postcard was only used in the 1907-1915 era.
- The use of "extant" feels awkward. I recommend using something like "in service" or "running" or "active".
- None of those have the same meaning as extant, for which there is not a good replacement word.
- When did the original Foxboro get converted into a coffin shop? It would also be nice to add when South Walpole closed down its train service after the 1911 rebuilding.
- It was converted from a coffin shop; the source implies that occurred when the line opened. As best as I can tell, South Walpole was served until service on the line ended in 1933 (I can't find any evidence to the contrary, and it certainly would have outlasted Foxvale and North Foxborough), though that's not explicitly stated in any source.
- Facepalm Can't believe I read the conversion part wrong like that. To replace "are extant", how about "still exist"? SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done
- Facepalm Can't believe I read the conversion part wrong like that. To replace "are extant", how about "still exist"? SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- It was converted from a coffin shop; the source implies that occurred when the line opened. As best as I can tell, South Walpole was served until service on the line ended in 1933 (I can't find any evidence to the contrary, and it certainly would have outlasted Foxvale and North Foxborough), though that's not explicitly stated in any source.
There's some more for you to work with. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
MBTA event service
[edit]- "insufficient ridership" → "low ridership"
- Done
- Something is off with ref#32 ("Ridership and Service Statistics" for 2010); the archived version I linked only gives a cover sheet while the original URL is dead.
- Weird, it loads fine for me. Trying reloading it?
- Might've just been a mobile vs. desktop issue (my laptop loaded it without any issue while my phone just showed a singular page). In any case, I've now been able to find the stats :). SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Weird, it loads fine for me. Trying reloading it?
Not too bad so far. I expect my next batch of comments to be the last. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Weekday service
[edit]- No qualms with File:Train at Foxboro station (1), September 2020.jpg
- Ref#37 ("Foxborough Commuter Rail Feasibility Study") only gives some random code and nothing useful, while ref#39 ("MassDOT Completes Framingham Secondary Rail Line Acquisition") apparently won't let me see anything at all (at least not without a login). You might need to add archives for these.
- Done Fixed the link for #37. #39 looks like a temporary error, but I've archived regardless.
- "In early 2017"..... I think we can be more specific and say February based on when this was published
- Done
- The announcement for a May 20, 2019 beginning was from November 2017, not October
- Done
- You can safely scrap "just one-third of the projected ridership" as actual results matter much more than mere guesses that are often subject to change
- I think this is important to mention - it's a huge difference from the projections that the service was based on, and that difference is the subject of the source.
References
[edit]- "The" is part of the title for The Boston Globe and The Sun Chronicle
- Done
- For ref#30, replace the vague "[Advertisement]" title with "Take the Patriots train or bus to Foxboro this season!" (which can be found near the top of this clipping).
- Done
Overall
[edit]- Prose: Some tweaks need to be made
- Referencing: Not all text could be verified, and citation formatting has some issues
- Coverage: One irrelevant detail can be deleted altogether
- Neutrality: There isn't any bias found
- Stability: All recent edits have been to improve this page
- Media: Each image used is free of copyright
- Verdict: Beginning now, the nomination is being placed on hold for seven days so you can resolve the rest of my comments. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SNUGGUMS: Thanks for the detailed review! I believe I've addressed all your comments above. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:23, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- My pleasure. After I made one minor correction here, it's now looking all set, so I'll pass! SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:33, 7 July 2022 (UTC)