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A fact from Frayed at Both Ends appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 June 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that one of the tracks on the deluxe version of Frayed at Both Ends by country musician Aaron Lewis was originally a poem by Johnny Cash?

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The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 16:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the deluxe version of Frayed at Both Ends, the fourth album by country musician and Staind member Aaron Lewis, contains a song written by Johnny Cash? Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/pamwindsor/2022/02/08/aaron-lewis-on-frayed-at-both-endscurrently-the-no-1-selling-country-album-in-america/
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Created by MRN2electricboogaloo (talk). Self-nominated at 01:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

New enough and long enough. QPQ exempt for first-time nominee. Hook fact is interesting...but MRN2electricboogaloo, I do want to see the Forbes source replaced before this continues. WP:FORBES is worth your time—basically, Forbes contributors (including Pam Windsor) are not reliable sources, which is different from the status accorded to content by Forbes staff. Can a better source be had for the hook fact/Cash connection? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie There’s its inclusion on Forever Words, as well as the song credits on Spotify, plus the Forbes article contains an interview, and said interview does back up the hook, so I think it’s good. Though since inclusion on Forever Words was before the album released, so I think the hook needs a tweak. MRN2electricboogaloo (talk) 02:32, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

* @MRN2electricboogaloo: Alright, I'm willing to accept the interview in the Forbes source though I do advise you to keep the contributor/staff distinction in mind in the future. What would the revised hook need to be? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:10, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

* @Sammi Brie: Thanks, I was thinking of changing it to something which references Forever Words, so something along the lines of “that the deluxe version of Frayed at Both Ends, the fourth album by country musician and Staind member Aaron Lewis, contains the Johnny Cash penned The Third Degree, also included on the deluxe edition of Forever Words?” might need shortening though MRN2electricboogaloo (talk) 00:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting here as a proper

ALT1: ... that the deluxe version of Frayed at Both Ends, the fourth album by country musician and Staind member Aaron Lewis, contains the Johnny Cash penned The Third Degree, also included on the deluxe edition of Forever Words?

That won't work, MRN2electricboogaloo, because it is 219 characters and the limit is 200. It's dense and dry and not very interesting. How about... Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:35, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ... that one of the tracks on the deluxe version of Frayed at Both Ends by country musician Aaron Lewis was originally a poem by Johnny Cash?

Sammi Brie yeah that’s good, I like that MRN2electricboogaloo (talk) 03:45, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Approving as the hook source checks out for this. Again, Forbes isn't my favorite, but since it contains an interview here... Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:28, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]