Talk:Free State (province)

	South Africa portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject South Africa, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of South Africa on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.South AfricaWikipedia:WikiProject South AfricaTemplate:WikiProject South AfricaSouth Africa articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Wikipedia Primary School project.

On need for expansion

This article could be improved by talking more about the populace of the Free State.--Wowaconia 15:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category renaming

The related Category:Free State Province and various subcategories have been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for Discussion page.

Article name

Observation: Though it is perhaps true that this province is the only entity in the world that has the official name "Free State", I don't think it can be said that the SA province is particularly more well-known worldwide than many other "Free State" entities historically (Irish Free State, Congo Free State, Free State of Saxony, etc.). As such it is probably more appropriate that the Free State be a disamiguation page and the SA province article be named something like Free State, South Africa.

--Mcorazao (talk) 03:47, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am ambivalent about such a move, but if you are going to propose a move it should be to Free State (South African province), for consistency with North West (South African province). - htonl (talk) 12:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stolen content?

http://www.franklinview.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74&Itemid=96 --Jefo (talk) 17:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Page moved. Note that this was where it started in 2006. Vegaswikian (talk) 04:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Free State → Free State (South African province)‎ – because per Free state (disambiguation), the term "Free State" is highly ambiguous. As well as the generic concept of Free state (government), "Free State" is part of the name of 14 former states. Several of those, such as the Irish Free State, were abbreviated in local common usage simply as the "Free State". The suggested disambiguator is as used for North West (South African province).
If this article is moved, then Free State should be redirected to the disambiguation page at Free state. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support; I don't think the capital 'S' is sufficient disambiguation in this case. Powers ^T 21:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? It certainly distinguishes it from the philosophical concept. There's no time a grammatically correct sentence would use that meaning in a manner that would send a link here or use this province in such a way to send a link there.

The only problem is the other Free States. They do deserve a disambig, but an appropriate one of their own here, separate from the philosophical concept. — LlywelynII 15:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. If you google free state, it's mostly this topic. Well, there is also Maryland. But I don't think anyone is likely to move Maryland to Free State. A three word disambiguator? I suggest Free State Province, which is used officially. Kauffner (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: there is precedent for "(South African province)" as a disambiguator; see North West (South African province). Notwithstanding the official use linked, it's my experience that "Free State Province" is not a construction actually used in South African English. Look, for example, at the articles in the Free State category on IOL; they invariably refer to "the Free State". - htonl (talk) 22:35, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Use in American or British English could carry that point, but well taken that "Province" remains rather vague. At the same time, it is needlessly long. — LlywelynII 15:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - "Free State (South Africa)", as you have suggested below, would certainly work for me. - htonl (talk) 16:08, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support matches other SA province, and multiple "Free State"s. 65.92.181.184 (talk) 03:36, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Soft Oppose - Free State should be a disambig, but a separate one only for the capitalized former states, which should be moved here from their inappropriate lower-case use; needlessly long disambiguators are loathsome: Free State (South Africa) or Free State, South Africa, works just fine, regardless of prior editors' mistakes. Otherwise, you just end up with redirects at those page names anyway and those names are the ones actually employed in actual links. — LlywelynII 15:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom, and redirect Free State to Free state. I would generally oppose Free State (South Africa) or Free State, South Africa, as these names are slightly more ambiguous and could possibly be confused with Orange Free State, which was located in territory that is presently in South Africa. Free State (South African province) is quite clear. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 07:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per GO et al. $Tony (talk)$ 09:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Free State (province). Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070709045643/http://vry.mcsa.org.za/Archive/Billis/2003/Half-Billi%202003-2.PDF to http://vry.mcsa.org.za/Archive/Billis/2003/Half-Billi%202003-2.PDF

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers. —^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 06:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move

Move to Free State because (province) is just a redundant title. 2A02:C7D:3FB0:300:C4E8:3E1:EC75:F51 (talk) 17:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Free State" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Free State. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 8#Free State until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]