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Festival Dates

why do the festival dates get constantly deleted under the pretence that they're not "part of the tour" when other wikipedia pages as the page for Dua's previous "Self-Titled Tour" supporting her debut album lists the festival dates. Why does a single user get to decide whether a show at a festival that is scheduled within the timeframe for the tour "is part of the tour" or not. Some of the Festival dates on wikipedia pages regarding specific tours are months apart from a continuous leg of the tour and they are not getting deleted (as the previous Tour(s) supporting Dua Lipas debut album) other pages such as Beyoncé's Mrs Carter World Tour, Harry Styles: Live on Tour and Ariana Grande's Sweetener World Tour all include the festival dates taking place within and around the tour dates. --Nellyiloveyou (talk) 22:54, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nellyiloveyou, I don't know about the other articles you have mentioned but the festival dates that you claim are apart of the Future Nostalgia Tour are considered WP:OR as you are synthesizing published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. None of the sources provided for the festival dates say they are apart of the tour, therefore they should not be included unless they are proven to be by a reliable source. --LOVI 33 19:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LOVI33 Lipa's Website^[1] lists the Roskilde date among all other Future Nostalgia Tour dates on her websites. The arbitrary selection of this article wanting festival dates that are scheduled within the frame of said tour and will most likely contain the same set list and shows as the tour, to be a seperate entitity is extremely finicky when other wikipedia pages about tours by pop-musicains do not require written accounts that festival dates in line with the scheduled solo tour dates are part of the tour. Nellyiloveyou (talk) 21:16, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nellyiloveyou Lipa website doesn't mention that those dates are apart of a tour, it simply says live which I can assume refers to concert dates. Most issues found in several Wikipedia articles are discovered in one article first so I will take a look at these other articles you mentioned at a later date. But please remember, Wikipedia is not a WP:CRYSTALBALL. --LOVI 33 04:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't get it. You need to stop removing them from the page. They have the same stage setup, same setlist, and are performed during the ongoing run of shows. They are a part of the tour. If Lipa used a completely different set then fine, well and done, the shows are not a part of the tour. Thing is, Primavera proved that. Also, with attendance, (this does not have to do with the Festival concerts,) people in other tour pages are using Touring Data[1] as info to put in the attendance and revenue. Why can't we do that here? What makes this page different than others? This is Wikipedia, a place where anyone can edit and contribute. Would like an answer, thanks. Huhburr (talk) 15:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Festival dates should definitely be included, even at primavera it started with the visual saying "Welcome to the Future Nostalgia tour" Jonathon3378 (talk) 11:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.dualipa.com/live/

Credits

Hey! I'd love for this page to have a section crediting all the personnel on tour like other artist tour pages, but I'm having trouble finding sources. The dancers, vocalists, band can easily be identified by looking through tour videos, instagram posts, etc. They are also largely the same personnel that were employed on Studio 2054 and the Tiny Desk Concert. How would I include this?

Unfortunately, without a proper source this information cannot be included. In terms of using social media as a source, per WP:TWITTER and WP:TWITTER-EL it can be used as a source as long as the claim is not "exceptional" and the account is verified. I presume the only social media that should be backing information like this would be Lipa's own social media accounts. Luckily, it seems as though Lipa has confirmed a Future Nostalgia Tour film so if this cannot be added now, it likely can be in the future. LOVI 33 19:18, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update Box Office Future Nostalgia Tour

2022 Year-End Boxscore Charts (Billboard)

...18. Dua Lipa

Box Office: 89 000 000
Attendance: 1 190 000 109.40.243.171 (talk) 09:11, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.dualipa.com/live/

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