Talk:Garden Island Naval Precinct

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Sydney Harbour Naval Precinct

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Hi there. I'm creating Sydney Harbour Naval Precinct based on the NSW SHR auto-generator. I notice it's also listed on the CHL. Have you auto-generated content from the CHL, as I could merge the two. It's a potentially messy article as there are heritage-listed items located within the Commonwealth Heritage Listed site, namely:

Buildings 31 and 32 Endeavour Rd North Garden Island, NSW, Australia
Chain and Anchor Store (former) West Rd Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Listed place)
Factory West Rd Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Listed place)
Garden Island - Captain Cook Dock Precinct Cowper Wharf Rd Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Indicative Place)
Garden Island Precinct Cowper Wharf Rd Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Listed place)
Naval Store Return Stores La Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Listed place)
Office Building Office Sq Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Listed place)
Residences Group Hill Rd Garden Island, NSW, Australia (Listed place)
Rigging Shed and Chapel Riggers La

There is a lot of content at Garden Island (New South Wales), too. Rangasyd (talk) 09:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have drafts for the CHL sites in NSW. I am uploading them to Google Drive for you (will let you know when that's done). Note though, that User:The Drover's Wife also has these drafts, so don't get under one another's feet. Kerry (talk) 09:13, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Rangasyd: They should be available on Google Drive for you now. Let me know if there is any problem. Kerry (talk) 09:30, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is another one I initially avoided doing for a reason! (On top of your list, Garden Island itself is also listed on the CHL separately to the Garden Island Precinct). Firstly, I would merge Sydney Harbour Naval Precinct in the SHR and Garden Island Precinct. For once, the SHR seems to have the better content, so I'd probably start with that and merge anything else useful from the CHL (which, unusually for the CHL, mightn't be that much). I'd also suggest maybe creating it at Garden Island Naval Precinct, because "Sydney Harbour Naval Precinct" is stupid (Cockatoo Island was a naval dockyard as well) and "Garden Island Precinct" is indescipherably vague when there's overlapping articles. It would also be useful to do a very selective merge of "Garden Island" in the CHL with our main Garden Island one too.

In terms of the individual buildings, Kerry and I edit conflicted - but as she said, I've got all the autogenerated articles already. I'm very happy to either do them all or split them, whether you want to do it now and get it over with or wait until we've knocked over the SHR. It'll be useful to have these - I went searching for the Captain Cook Graving Dock in the CHL to create it to fill redlinks the other day and couldn't find the bloody thing. I think the only one that's actually complex is the overall precinct one. The Drover's Wife (talk) 09:21, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Made a start on merging content. The Captain Cook Graving Dock is relatively important, but you could include content in Garden Island Naval Precinct and redirect the redlink to the section within that article. The Barnet buildings are unique and important, but not so much that they deserve their own article. Just give me a few mins to clean up and fix. Rangasyd (talk) 09:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't seen this message and did a big edit, but I replaced the handful of edits that edit conflicted and am done if there's any more. I'm not keen on merging any of the individually CHL-listed buildings into the main as they've all got enough for their own articles. We could always go to a Buildings of the Garden Island Naval Precinct or something similar and throw in the RNE if you really wanted, but as we've discovered from past experience trying to match military buildings that change uses and names can be a royal pain in the arse and I'm not too keen. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. We're too quick for each other. I hear you re individual articles and agree that there is enough content from the CHL for stand alone articles. I think that they should link back to Garden Island Naval Precinct and not establish a new article. You can see how I've started this with the Garden Island Naval Chapel. If we follow that model and link the CHL articles back to the Precinct article we should be fine. Rangasyd (talk) 11:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I think that's a good way to go as well. The Drover's Wife (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]