Talk:Gershon Koffie
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Gershon Koffie's eligibility for Canada
[edit]Hi.
Gershon Koffie is not eligible for Canada. He's considered cap-tied because he played for Ghana in an 'official competition' (the African Youth Championship is considered official because it's organised by CAF) before obtaining Canadian citizenship. If he had Canadian citizenship at the time he played in the competition, he'd be eligible to play for Canada but as he didn't, he isn't. TheBigJagielka (talk) 10:58, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- @TheBigJagielka: As the article states, he is eligible to play for Canada because he has not played at the senior level, only at the U-20 level.
- http://www.wakingthered.com/2015/10/5/9458065/gershon-koffie-could-be-next-canada-mens-national-team-callup-vancouver-whitecaps-concacaf
- http://www.theprovince.com/sports/weber+koffie+could+play+canada+soon/11412522/story.html
- I;m not sure where you got your information from, but it's wrong. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:02, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Walter Görlitz:Those sources are incorrect. My information is direct from FIFA:
If a Player has more than one nationality, or if a Player acquires a new nationality, or if a Player is eligible to play for several representative teams due to nationality, he may, only once, request to change the Association for which he is eligible to play international matches to the Association of another Country of which he holds nationality, subject to the following conditions:
a) He has not played a match (either in full or in part) in an Official Competition at “A” international level for his current Association, and at the time of his first full or partial appearance in an international match in an Official Competition for his current Association, he already had the nationality of the representative team for which he wishes to play.
FIFA, http://www.fifa.com/mm/Document/AFFederation/Generic/02/58/14/48/2015FIFAStatutesEN_Neutral.pdf
Definitions:
- Official competition: a competition for representative teams organised by FIFA or any Confederation.[1]
- International “A” Match: a match arranged by two Members and for which both Members field their first Representative Team (“A” Representative Team).[2]
- Association: a football association recognised by FIFA. It is a member of FIFA, unless a different meaning is evident from the context.[3]
- International Match: a match between two teams (either two Representative Teams, two Club Teams, two Scratch Teams, one Representative Team and one Club Team, or a Representative Team or Club Team and a Scratch Team) belonging to different Members. Any competition that may include an International Match shall be subject to these regulations. For the purpose of authorisation, any match or competition played between two teams belonging to the same Member but in a Third Country shall be recognised as an International Match.[4]
- Confederation: a group of Associations recognised by FIFA that belong to the same continent (or assimilable geographic region).[5]
He didn't have Canadian citizenship/residency when he played for Ghana in the African Youth Championship in 2011 (deemed an 'official competition' as it was organised by CAF, the age restriction is irrelevant) and so is considered ineligible. TheBigJagielka (talk) 20:47, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- Your interpretation of the FIFA rules is incorrect. He has not represented Ghana at the senior level. As a result, he is free to represent either nation at the senior level. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:06, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- My understanding is that you can change nationality as long as you have not represented a senior national team in a competitive game - that's how Jermaine Jones can play for the USA even though he played youth football, and one senior friendly, for Germany. GiantSnowman 09:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- This is an interesting case. As best I can tell, Koffie presently is not eligible to play for Canada regardless of the present argument, as all sources provided to date demonstrate that he is a permanent resident, not a citizen, of Canada. Until Koffie becomes a citizen, he cannot even apply to FIFA to change his national affiliation. As I see it, the rest of the argument is moot. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 12:47, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Walter Görlitz:. Koffie is in the same situation that Adama Traoré was. Traore played for Ivory Coast in youth competitions organised by CAF before he became a resident/citizen of Australia. He wanted to play for Australia, but wasn't eligible. See these two links:
- http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/11/21/true-blue-traore-still-calls-australia-home
- http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/adama-traores-hopes-of-playing-for-socceroos-have-been-dashed-by-football-federation-australia/story-e6frf4l3-1226732008826
- The reason Thiago Motta was allowed to switch was because he played U23 for Brazil in the CONCACAF Gold Cup (Brazil were invitees and their games were considered non-binding). There was another similar case, Christian Giménez, he was able to represent Mexico having played in the U20 Copa America because Argentina were considered guests as they had already qualified for the U20 World Cup (of which the U20 Copa America was a qualifying tournament) as hosts. TheBigJagielka (talk) 15:45, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- My understanding is that you can change nationality as long as you have not represented a senior national team in a competitive game - that's how Jermaine Jones can play for the USA even though he played youth football, and one senior friendly, for Germany. GiantSnowman 09:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
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